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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:07 PM
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Rice sees bombs as birth pangs
Saturday 22 July 2006, 13:44 Makka Time, 10:44 GMT

Condoleezza Rice has described the plight of Lebanon as a part of the "birth pangs of a new Middle East" and said that Israel should ignore calls for a ceasefire.

"This is a different Middle East. It's a new Middle East. It's hard, We're going through a very violent time," the US secretary of state said.

<snip>

More than 300 Lebanese civilians have been killed in 11 days of Israeli air and artillery strikes against Hezbollah, the armed Lebanese Shia group.

<snip>

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/124EB0C2-1CEE-4EF5-A3F6-048836DD2A59.htm
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:09 PM
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1. OMFG our Dear Leader's idiocy is rubbing off on her!
Disgusting and inappropriate remark. I'm numb with anger and shock. :grr:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:12 PM
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2. That was an incredibly stupid thing for her to say.
I'm not even going to get into the strategic aspect of giving the militia a good crushing before the ceasefire, my remarks are limited to her analogy.

That was a DUMB, DUMB, DUMB thing to say. Birth isn't violent, birth doesn't generally cause death, unless something goes horribly wrong. And rockets and missiles don't fly hither and yon during your average birth.

Stupid, stupid woman. STUPID.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:14 PM
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3. Perhaps she'd like to take her happy ass to the front and push
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:07 PM
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24. LMAO!! Except I don't want any part of anything that she births or
hatches. Just doesn't seem to work out very well.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:18 PM
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26. It's such a callous remark to make when people are dying
more especially from anyone in the Bush Regime

I'm so sick of those not doing the dying and the suffering making these kinds of remarks.."spreading democracy"..."freedom on the march"...

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:13 PM
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56. I share that rage!
This was a reprehensible thing to say.

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DYouth Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:15 PM
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4. She's a sovietologist. She must've learned from their awful propoganda
It's no better than theirs; the world equally laughs at that nonsense.

Anyone who still believes their agenda is to spread freedom or democracy or whatever is not paying attention, at all.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:19 PM
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7. Which makes me wonder why she's even relevant anymore.
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 06:21 PM by Cleita
The Soviet Union is gone.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:21 PM
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9. And C*ndi didn't see that coming.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:18 PM
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5. Everything is going to PNAC plan. They got their
Pearl Harbor to begin a holocaust in the the Middle East. I wonder who collaborated with Osama to pull it off? They are picking off the countries as they said they would. Israel's dominance of its neighbors is part of the plan. I noticed that the PNAC website has scrubbed the master plan. The link and the first page is still up, but the rest of the pages are blank. I hope some DUer has it downloaded.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:13 PM
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57. I printed out the whole damn thing
a few years ago. I've still got the copy in my files and probably on my hard drive somewhere.

The bastards finally deleted it? Wonder what took them so long?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:19 PM
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6. What does she know about birth pangs???
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:20 PM
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8. What does she know what it's like to be under artillery fire
and bombs in a war zone for that matter?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:23 PM
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12. I asked that on another thread
but I would love to see her caught in a war zone as bombs approach. Any bets she'd have a rethink. These neo-cons cannot be human brings.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:35 PM
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13. She would need to wear a brown suit if she
went to an actual front where bombs are going off.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:37 PM
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15. She don't know nuttin' 'bout birthin' no babies!
Clueless bitch. :grr:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:22 PM
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10. "It's a different kind of war."
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:22 PM
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11. I can no longer deny it....
I absolutely abhor that woman....:mad:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:02 PM
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20. i think shes sexy
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 07:05 PM by greguganus
A woman with power turns me on. Hillary too! I lust them both! Am I normal?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:57 PM
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35. Knock yourself out...
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 PM by hlthe2b
Maybe you can double date with Condi's husband-- you know the "FABIO" of Texas...:eyes:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:52 PM
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51. He can drive the limo...
...while Condi, Hill, Pickles and I party in the back.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:55 PM
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43. That prison cell must really be lonely. n/t
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 03:53 PM
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52. LOL
I'm a prisoner of their power!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:15 PM
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59. Well, finding evil sexy isn't exactly a thing to be proud of, honestly.
NT!

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:35 PM
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14. It's Fundy Speak
End times stuff.

She is pandering to that small shred of Evangelicals who believe the Rapture is nigh, and maybe pulling in a few folks who've retreated to Bibles to make sense of it all.

Google "birth pangs" and you'll see what I mean.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:53 PM
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16. Well I'll be damned. You're right.
These people are so damn creepy. Why don't they just put on the black sweat suits and the Nike's, drink the Kool-Aid (or more of it) and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:20 PM
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33. Good question, Island Blue


But they are going to feed that shit repeatedly to those who want to believe that this latest conflict in the ME is the beginning of the rapture as they interpret it is described in Matthew. Like this administration is full of prophets.

FU(X) News and the 700 Club can definitely use that soundbite to make some stunning propaganda to stir up the religious fervor and get the donations and the viewers.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:33 PM
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41. Good eye**nm
**
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:07 PM
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42. Thanks, but actually my dad set an example
of knowing what the bible says so that you can argue coherently and with a little authority about it.

So I've studied the hell out of it (no pun intended) and I can spot a damned Fundy Key Phrase from around the globe ;)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:39 AM
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48. You're right
The things you learn...they do this all the time. It's spooky. I can never tell whether they are just using these nuts, are actually belong to the nutty club.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:19 PM
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62. Jesus Christ! the atheist said, shocked.
The first results are death-cultist Religious Reich KKKristian sites!

You know why? Because these people ARE SO GODDAMN STUPID (sorry for yelling) that they don't realize the proper English is "birthing pangs", not "birth pangs"!

:rofl:

and then

:scared:

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:57 PM
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17. I've been seeing that quote around and wonder...
just where al-Jazeera got it from. Haven't see it cited anywhere else.

Anyway, I have little doubt she said it, or something like it, since we're happily rearming Israel and refusing to hear any pleas for a cease-fire. Kinda like the old Cold War days when we armed our guys and the Soviets armed theirs. Now it's Iran arming their guys-- the players change, not the plot. Anything to keep the war du jour going.

And, I thought the Middle East had enough birth pains with the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and France and England deciding where the new borders should be. More growing pains coming when they start running out of oil, and Lebanon certainly had some pain in its last civil war.

Silly Lebanese, they thought that was the end of it. Betcha a whole bunch of 'em are bringing up memories of that Shantilla unpleasantness.

Win those hearts and minds, Condi, and don't ignore all those South Americans giving us the finger.

Better yet, give the government back to the adults before the whole world goes up in flames. (What did Ethiopia just do?)




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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:01 PM
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19. buddyhollysghost pointed out the fundy speak: google *birth pangs*
It's a new one on me,too.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:15 PM
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25. Yeah, I checked it out, and that makes it....
even WORSE!!!

Our Secretary of State sending out coded messages about End Times? Did she do this deliberately? Or is it some wierd interpretation of al-Jazeera's?

William Jennings Bryan was as fundie as they get (the Monkey Trial and all) but he quit as Wilson's Secretary of State when we entered WWI because his fundamentalism lead him to pacifism. How times have changed.

I tell ya, if my mind boggles any more, I'll just be a quivering pile of Jell-O.





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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:11 PM
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37. I think it's deliberate.
I alternate between fury and :wtf: most of the time.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:01 PM
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18. What? This is all because "abstinence only" doesn't work?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:03 PM
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21. "DONT STOP THE KILLING," she screamed.
condi - FUCK YOU!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:03 PM
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22. Well, that's a relief. I thought people were being killed.
I guess the Lebanese (and, Palestinians, and Israelis, and Iraqis) should just take a couple of aspirin when the bombs and rockets are falling. The ingrates just don't understand that this is just a few inconvenient "pangs" that are good for them in the long run.

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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:04 PM
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23. As new life comes from death
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 07:17 PM by MoseyWalker
love will come at leisure

love of love, love of life
and giving without measure
gives in return a wondrous yearn
for peace
almost seen

Old Moody Blues lyrics.

She's lost in a lost world.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:20 PM
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27. I guess its just her motherly instincts coming out...
Has she seen the pictures of blown-up Lebanese kids?
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:35 PM
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28. Thats just sick
A birth a a new Middle East. New and improved with %50 more violence.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:39 PM
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29. GAWD!
She is SUCH a unt! Sorry folks, there just is sometimes when that incredibly offensive descriptive word is appropriate. VERY, VERY, almost NEVER but rarely, I agree; however, referring to Condosleazy...it is very appropriate! These freaks LOVE pillaging and burning the innocents of the world, to include us. :mad:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:42 PM
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30. Jesus H Christ! Why doesn't she just STFU? Everything is "different"
with this maladministration, isn't it? And they Never make any sense! She and her boss should know violent, they created it!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:43 PM
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31. I'd like to see her say that to a mother who just lost her son to a US
made bomb! Fuck Rice, I used to think she had some brains. Boy was I wrong! I didn't think we could get worse than Collin Powell...now I miss him. :(
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:21 PM
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34. She can start with Cindy Sheehan! nt
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:13 PM
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32. She is the stupidest individual in the world . . .
She might be "smart" but she is stupid --

Well sure she'd have to be stupid to hang around with the bush crowd -- rich and stupid.

If there is such a thing as a soul -- she's sold her soul to the devil (if such a being exists). Whatever she has sold her humanity -- that core thing that makes humans empathetic and aware of other people's suffering. That humans are all part of ONE race -- the human race.

I though bush was going out of his way to be stupid -- now it turns out that Ms. CondiLiar is also going out of her way to be stupid.

Birth is NOT destruction -- what is happening is the destruction of human beings -- many of them children who were BORN already. She is a poopoo head.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 PM
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36. I don't think that Condi is just stupid
I think they are also desperate.

They need to get this thing well underway before November. They need enough time to pass for one of the following to happen:

1) A quick invasion/coup of Syria and Iran (and by proxy - Lebanon)

And failing that (and we all know that it will fail)

2) Enough time for the average couch potato american to become desensitized to the news reports from the Middle East/Persia so that they can be lulled into voting anti-gay again....
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:16 PM
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39. oh I forgot about the gays -- yes the biggest threat in the world
<pure sarcasm>

your #2 -- gave me a good laugh.

What we need are more out of the closet gays who embrace what they are. Not the self loathing type like J. Edgar Hoover etc. etc. he'd be a typical neocon today.

Gotta protect the US from them gays marrying -- and having "rights" of married folk.

Will the dumb f**** fall for this line again???

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:32 AM
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46. She is unfeeling just like her husb...er the pResident. nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:15 PM
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38. She's trying to impress DimSon with her motherly instincts.
:rofl:

Like HE'd know anything about motherly instinct, having been spawned from from the quaker oats lady.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:58 PM
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44. I wonder if she breast feeds him beer?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:34 AM
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50. This is all she needs:


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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:17 PM
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40. Is Hal Lindsey feeding her lines?
:puke:

How many more breeding grounds for new terrorists does there need to be for these people to get the fucking message? :eyes:
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:00 AM
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45. She is sick, a pathological liar nt
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:36 AM
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47. Bombs give birth to other bombs
I don't believe Rice has children, or she might speak less stupidly.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:45 AM
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49. This is Rice giving birth
somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 07:58 PM
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53. May she give birth to a nine-pound turd. (n/t)
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:11 PM
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54. I suppose if several of our cities got destroyed,
she would say some snappy upbeat shit like what an "opportunity" this is. How it's "just like a fresh start" or some other shit that would give a sane person an aneurysm.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:12 PM
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55. So birth brings about death?
Strange, I thought it brought forth LIFE. Silly me!

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:14 PM
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58. OMG What a whacko...
...she's getting further and further from reality every day. Where does she come up with tripe like this? That entire crime ring apparently uses the same speechwriters. They'll have their little puppets saying anything no matter how whacked out 'cause the sheeple will swallow it whole every time.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:16 PM
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60. 'It's hard'..hard work .. nothing's been the same since 9/11
Same ol...same ol... the same talking points sprout again and again.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:18 PM
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61. This is coming from a woman
who has never carried a child to term, nor served in the military.

I guess it doesn't even phase her that she's totally clueless.

Keep playing to that fundie base Condi, just like your husband's photo op with the roasted pig. I'm sure that sent a clear message to the Arab world too.

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