CNN, Israel Rejects UN Request for 72 hr. Cease Fire for Aid to Refugees

[KoKo]

UN Official Eglund had requested the ceasefire so aid trucks could get aid into those refugees, many of them women and children.

Maybe Israel was worried that this would give Hezbollah time to regroup and so they couldn't go along with it...but still this doesn't look good. :shrug:

Don't have a link but CNN anchor "Tony something" just announced it

[ixion]

1. Israel just can't kill enough

their blood-thrist really knows no bounds, IMO.

It's pathetic, and a disgrace to Humankind.

[magellan]

2. That seals it

Israel has lost the plot. They obviously don't care if their actions provoke more hatred towards them.

[smacky44]

3. Is there anymore doubt about who the real terrorists are?

Is there any nation on earth less humane than Israel at this time? Are their leaders any better than Saddam? As Z. Bzrzenski said, "What Israel is donin now is killing hostages."

[DRoseDARs]

4. AP link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_cease_fire

I love the part where Pazner whines that it's Hezbollah blocking aid even though Israel, "has opened humanitarian corridors to and from and Lebanon." Um, duh. Your country isn't bombing the ocean or the sky, you're bombing the land... the land aid workers need to travel across in order to deliver the aid. Blood-thirsty asshole. :eyes:

[malaise]

7. Pazner is lying

more ridiculous propaganda.

[DRoseDARs]

10. Actually, he isnt really. Like I noted, ships n planes arent being hit...

Kinda hard for Hezbollah to launch shoulder-mounted rockets from a rubber raft or a hangglider, I'm sure, ergo Israel bombs the shit out of the land and leaves the sea and air alone.

[The Stranger]

23. Are you going to offer proof to support your accusation?

You know the routine, give us a link.

[Solo_in_MD]

25. Beirut Airport is Open?

Late in the article is stated some supplies were flown in...

[papau]

5. Hez/Syria have been trying to move very long range missiles -wonder

how many missiles would have been in those so called UN aid trucks? - given the UN history - such as the infamous October 7, 2000 UN co-conspiracy with Hez where Hez somehow acquired UN uniforms and vehicles carrying the UNIFIL insignia, so as to kidnap and eventually kill 3 Israelis from inside Israel. Like with the Hamas use of UN ambulances as shown by the video and confession of the ambulance driver, and the use of English and French humanitarian aid vehicles over the years by various terrorist groups, the "rules" do not seem to be followed by terrorist groups - or aid groups - in the mid-east.

But the amazing fact is that Israel is trying to ignore the above history, letting trucks through via designated routes -

and it gets craped on here at DU.

Seems Hez can do little that is as wrong as whatever is the Israeli action du jure - so Hez blocking those humanitarian aid trucks from going south is not a problem (I would not be surprise if Hez agrees to stop that blocking if the trucks agree to carry missiles).

Given the land and sea (a port north of Beirut) humanitarian corridors to and from and within Lebanon, why is the UN humanitarian chief asking a 3 day cease fire for truck movement?

Makes one wonder if they need time to pick up some missiles from Syria.

I notice aid is flowing - U.S. Navy high-speed HSV-2 catamaran arrived at the Beirut port from Cyprus bringing 20,000 blankets, 1,000 tarpaulins, large medical kits and other materials for immediate distribution in refugee camps in the north, per the international aid organization Mercy Corp, which hopes to send the next shipment of aid south.

And Egyptian and Jordanian military transport planes are bringing into Beirut's airport loads of medicine, food and medical teams, with a while a United Arab Emirates plane bringing in 40 tons of food and medical supplies.

[KharmaTrain]

8. Sorry, You're Not Playing Along With "Coventional Wisdom"

at least for many around here. Israel is solely reponsible for everything and Hezbollah is just some poor innocent group that didn't provoke this whole mess in the first place.

I haven't heard a Hezbollah spokesman talking about making any sort of peace accomodations...or the Syrians or Iranians. All I'm hearing about is more missiles flying into Israeli towns and cities (that of course, we at DU must ignore) and there's no mention that if there is a cease fire that the missile launchings would cease. Even more important is the removal of those missiles from the area...a demilitarization that takes away Israel's need to invade and provides a bit of security that Israel is looking for.

The U.N. have never been honest brokers in that region as they have real little allegience to their missions...especially in that region. They stand in the way more than mediate and are used by both sides to play to the world media. Any "peace" that doesn't seriously discuss the removal of all missiles and the demilitarization of the Lebanese border means a loss for Israel...and something their people (just like ours in a similar situation) wouldn't tolerate.

But again...this thread is supposed to bash Israel...get with the bashing won't ya?

:sarcasm:

[papau]

9. sigh - you are correct - I forgot the bash Israel/poor Hez meme.

:-(

[DRoseDARs]

12. The two of you seem to think anyone gives a shit about Hezbollah...

...and you don't think there are any Lebanese in Lebanon, only Hezbollah fighters. If Israel keeps this up, that'll probably become true.

[KharmaTrain]

16. Which Lebanese?

Are we talking about the Christian Lebanese or the Druze Lebanese or the Shiite Lebanese? There is no national entity in that country...it's a factional country similar to what we see in Iraq...where groups act independently from a central government...including military.

Now what responsibility does Hezbollah have to those same people? They can stop firing their missiles at Israeli cities...remove them and demilitarize the region and there not only would be no need for Israel to invade, but would provide this country a true peace...not a fractionalized one.

Where's Hezbollah's responsibility here? Or does this mess up your meme?

[Warren Stupidity]

17. Should Israel remove its air force and demilitarize the border region?

Or should this gesture of peace be all one sided?

[KharmaTrain]

19. Would You Demilitarize Our Border?

Hezbollah is a nation within a nation. It's NOT the Lebanese army, it's a proxy of Syria and Iran with one mission...to destroy Israel...nothing more, nothing less. If we had a similar threat on our border...even better...let's put those missiles one county away from yours and see how you'd feel.

Yes...how about one-sided. Where's the Hezbollah, Syrian or Iranian response here? Other than the total destruction of Israel and killing as many Jews as possible? Where's the gesture that would show a serious intention to negotiate where both parties can find some means to bring a true peace to this region?

Now what is Hezbollah willing to do to end this mess? Stop firing missiles while still maintaining a militarized force on the border? Or allow them to dig in deeper and create even more carnage in the future?

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Israel has invaded and occupied Lebanon twice. nt.

[Igel]

27. That seems to be one more time than

Lebanon has.

[KharmaTrain]

30. And It's Been Continually Attacked From Across The Border

I've been to Kiryat Shimona and up to the Golan Heights. I've seen not only how close these areas are to not only the border but to populated areas within Israel...it's just a 30 minute ride to Haifa. I've also seen the craters from rockets in the fields and the blown out hulks of old Syrian arterillary that still is kept on the Heights as a reminder of when the Syrians would regularly open fire on the farms and fields below. Now I assume you'd just sit back and let them blow you away, right?

[papau]

20. a good idea - if a real armed, able to police force could control the area

n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

28. That suggestion is not even on the table.

The posture from our side is entirely unilateral. Hezbollah is to disarm, Lebanon is to be occupied (again) either by an international force or by the IDF, and Israel will make no concessions. Some deal. I wonder why Hezbollah is not going for it?

[papau]

33. Eventually Condi and Bush will learn how to negotiate - but your idea is

is a good solution.

[DRoseDARs]

22. Edit: Read another post of your's, saw a different angle...

Gee, looks like you kind of answered your own question. You openly acknowlege there are seperate groups in Lebanon, and the point is only one group ought to be attacked. Hezbollah basically controls the south, but given they're an organization and not a geographically well-defined ethnic group, attacking them in the manner Israel has chosen presents certain problems... like extensive civilian collateral damage. Israel's stategy here is to bomb bomb bomb civilian casualties be damned. Notice that no where in that strategy is there any mention of forcibly disarming Hezbollah, tracking down weapons caches, or providing any goodwill aid to the civilian population to bribe them into not going to Hezbollah's side. And, Israel is currently poo-poo'ing the idea of an armed international force to do all that in their stead. You give Hezbollah too much credit by implying they could ever be responcible for anything other than more death.

[springhill]

35. They didn't provoke this mess...........

Israel did, just like the United States, to start something they have long been planning. Same thing, just different neocons.

From Fair in Accuracy and Reporting: Down the Memory Hole

Let's go on a brief excursion into pre-history. I’m talking about June 20, 2006, when Israeli aircraft fired at least one missile at a car in an attempted extrajudicial assassination attempt on a road between Jabalya and Gaza City. The missile missed the car. Instead it killed three Palestinian children and wounded 15.

Back we go again to June 13, 2006. Israeli aircraft fired missiles at a van in another attempted extrajudicial assassination. The successive barrages killed nine innocent Palestinians.

Now we're really in the dark ages, reaching far, far back to June 9, 2006, when Israel shelled a beach in Beit Lahiya killing eight civilians and injuring 32.

That's just a brief trip down Memory Lane, and we trip over the bodies of twenty dead and forty-seven wounded, all of them Palestinians, most of them women and children.

On June 24, the day before Hamas' cross-border raid, Israel made an incursion of its own, capturing two Palestinians that it said were members of Hamas (something Hamas denied—L.A. Times, 6/25/06). This incident received far less coverage in U.S. media than the subsequent seizure of the Israeli soldier; the few papers that covered it mostly dismissed it in a one-paragraph brief (e.g., Chicago Tribune, 6/25/06), while the Israeli taken prisoner got front-page headlines all over the world. It's likely that most Gazans don’t share U.S. news outlets' apparent sense that captured Israelis are far more interesting or important than captured Palestinians.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2928

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. They didn't provoke this mess? Think again. This is about Hezbollah.

Hezbollah Terrorist Attacks Since May 2000*

*Israel's unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon

Compiled by Mitchell Bard

(July 24, 2006)


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12 Jul 2006 - Hezbollah terrorists infiltrated into Israeli territory and attacked two IDF armored jeeps patrolling the border with Lebanon, killing three soldiers and kidnapping two. Ground forces entered Lebanon in the area of the attack. A large explosive device was detonated underneath an Israeli tank, killing all four of the tank crew. An eighth soldier was killed when IDF troops entered Lebanon to try to retrieve the bodies of the tank crew. Throughout the day, Hezbollah terror organization fired Katyusha rockets and mortar shells at Israel's northern borders' communities and IDF posts.

27 May 2006 - An IDF soldier was wounded when Katyushas were fired at an army base at Mt. Meron in the upper Galilee.

27 Dec 2005 - A branch of a Palestinian organization connected to Al-Qaida fired 6 Katyushas, damaging a house in Kiryat Shmona and a house in Metulla. In response, the IAF attacked a training base of the Popular Front, south of Beirut.

21 Nov 2005 - An attempt to kidnap an IDF soldier was foiled when paratroopers patrolling near Rajar village discerned a Hezbollah unit approaching. Private David Markovitz opened fire, killing all four. In a heavy attack of mortars and Katyusha rockets that ensued, nine soldiers and and two civilians were injured.

29 Jun 2005 - More than 20 mortars were fired from across the border. Cpl. Uzi Peretz of the Golani Brigade was killed and four soldiers wounded, including the unit's doctor. Fire was exchanged and helicopters and planes attacked five Hezbollah outposts in the Reches Ramim area.

24 Apr 2005 - Several explosive devices exploded near the Lebanese-Israeli border, in the Mount Dov area. Officials believe the devices were planted by Hezbollah, but this was not confirmed. No injuries were reported in the explosions.

7 Apr 2005 - Two Israeli-Arabs from the village of Rajar near the Israel-Lebanon border were kidnapped by Hezbollah operatives and held in captivity for four days. The men, identified as Muki Ben-Jamal and Nuef Maharj Ben-Ali, said they were interrogated by their captors who wanted information on Israel. They were later released. Israeli officials did not believe that any security information had been compromised.

9 Jan 2005 - An explosive device was detonated against an IDF patrol at Nahal Sion. One Israeli soldier was killed, and a UN officer was killed.

20 Jul 2004 - Hezbollah sniper fired at an IDF post in the western sector of the Israeli-Lebanese border. Two IDF soldiers were killed.

7 May 2004 - Fire in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Dennis Leminov was killed, and two other soldiers were severely wounded. The IDF returned fire.

19 Jan 2004 - An anti-tank missile was fired at IDF D9 while neutralizing explosive charges near Zari't. An IDF soldier, Yan Rotzenski, was killed and another soldier was severely wounded.

6 Oct 2003 - Staff Sgt. David Solomonov was killed when Hezbollah fired at an IDF force south of the =46atma Gate in the eastern sector. In addition, the Hezbollah fired missiles and rockets at an IDF post in the Reches Ramim area.

10 Aug 2003 - Haviv Dadon, 16, of Shlomi, was struck in the chest and killed by shrapnel from an anti-aircraft shell fired by Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon. Four others were wounded.

20 Jul 2003 - Hezbollah snipers fired on an Israeli outpost near Chetula, killing two Israeli soldiers. The IDF retaliated with tank fire directed at a Hezbollah position, killing one operative manning the post. That night, there were multiple Israeli flights over Lebanon, two of which generated powerful sonic booms over Beirut.

7 May 2003 - Hezbollah attacked IDF positions in the Sheba' farms with heavy rocket, mortar, and small arms fire. One Israeli soldier was killed and five others were wounded in the attack. Lebanese authorities asserted that the Hezbollah firing had been preceded by an Israeli army foot patrol crossing the Blue Line.

5 May 2003 - A cycle of armed exchanges across the Blue Line began. Israel carried out more than 20 air sorties over the country. Subsequently, Hezbollah fired several anti-aircraft rounds with shrapnel landing inside Israel.

22 Mar 2003 - Hezbollah fired rockets and mortars at Israeli army positions in the Sheba' farms and adjacent areas. This attack followed eight incursions into Lebanese airspace by Israeli aircraft.

6 Jan 2003 - Hezbollah fired anti aircraft shells in the vicinity of Birait in the western sector of the Lebanese border. No one was hurt and no damage was caused.

29 Aug 2002 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Ofer Misali was killed, and two other soldiers were lightly wounded.

12 Mar 2002 - Infiltration: In a shooting attack on the Shlomi- Metzuba route. Six Israelis civilians were killed, among them IDF officer Lt. German Rojkov.

7 Aug 2001 - Two houses belonging to senior members of the former Israeli-allied South Lebanon Army militia were blown up using explosive devices. One of the houses belonged to Robin Abboud; the other to Samir Raslan. Hezbollah is suspected.

28 Apr 2001 - A 60 year-old Israeli man was found stabbed to death in Kfar Ba'aneh, near Carmiel in Galilee. The terrorists responsible for the attack were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of the organization.

14 Apr 2001 - Fire at an IDF post in the Mt. Dov sector. IDF soldier Elad Litvak was killed.

1 Apr 2001 - A 42 year-old Israeli woman was stabbed to death in Haifa. Her murder was the initiation rite of a terrorist cell, whose members were apprehended in July. Six members of a Hezbollah-linked Palestinian terrorist cell responsible for the murder, originally thought to be criminally motivated, were arrested in July. The murder was the initiation rite of one of the terrorists into the organization.

16 Feb 2001- Fire at an IDF convoy on Mt. Dov. IDF soldier Elad Shneor was killed, and three other soldiers were wounded.

26 Nov 2000 - A charge was detonated near an IDF convoy. IDF soldier Khalil Taher was killed and two other soldiers were wounded.

7 Oct 2000 - Kidnapping: Three IDF soldiers: Adi Avitan, Omer Soued and Binyamin Avraham were kidnapped by the Hezbollah from the Mt. Dov sector.

Those last 3 IDF soldiers were MURDERED.

http://www.aijac.org.au/resources/hezb_00-06.html

ALL THIS since Israel pulled out of Lebanon.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

11. Read this:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743764.html

[flyarm]

31. PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC PNAC

WHAT PART OF pnac ARE PEOPLE NOT GETTING??

this plan was laid out by the neo cons

this war was planned to get the neo con war with Iran and Syria..

the same sickos in this hwhite house even made a similar plan early 1990 and gave the same plan to Isreal..

one Richard Pearle and Doug Feith

what part of those are people debating not getting??

see we have an election coming..and they are now afraid that their "PNAC PLAN " will get stopped..

and their 'NEW WORLD ORDER" will be finished..over, caput...soooo

they needed this war ..they needed it in the worst way

and this is a Karl Rove tactic to split the Jewish in the dem party..

can we all see with at least the set of eyes that can finally figure out what these monsters are doing??

fly

[Warren Stupidity]

13. Lebanon: 400 - 600 civilian deaths, half children.

500,000 - 600,000 refugees.

"and it gets craped on here at DU. Seems Hez can do little that is as wrong as whatever is the Israeli action du jure "

Whatever. Its du jour by the way, as in soup du jour. Or perhaps you meant de jure as in de facto. And its 'crapped' not 'craped'. Or perhaps you meant that we here at DU creped all over 'Is'.

[papau]

18. Hell of a time for a laugh - but I did enjoy you grammar/spelling post -

and of course you are correct - the post grammar/spelling should get a failing grade.

The 600 civilian deaths, half children have indeed been a hell that should not have happened and which deserves our sympathy, the 500,000 - 600,000 "refugees" who moved away from Hez command posts and ammo dumps in their apartment buildings less so.

Relative to other wars you have been in, or you have heard your Dad or granddad talk about, like WW2, how do you think it compares? Are Israeli actions more or less evil than US actions in the "good we fought war" WW2?

[Warren Stupidity]

43. In theory we are all on the same side here, so if we can laugh

while we fight then perhaps there is room for a common understanding.

I can't really do the body piling, the weighing in of atrocities. No, obviously WWII set the current world record for total atrocities, and in the wars of my lifetime the carnage of vietnam still remains a distinct outlier. But it doesn't really matter. I am convinced, as I have stated here for the last month, that both the IDF and Hezbollah are targeting civilians, and those acts, regardless of their standing in planetary atrocities, are war crimes.

[AliceWonderland]

37. Yes, I think we creped incorrectly

And moreover, we love "Hez."

[malaise]

6. Sick, sick, sick

I heard it on BBC.
Here's why
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5226076.stm

[KoKo]

14. "..somethings fundamentally wrong when more dead children than armed men."

from the BBC interview:

Briefing the Security Council on Friday, Mr Egeland said some 600 people had been killed by Israeli action in Lebanon, of which around a third were children.

"It's been horrific... There is something fundamentally wrong with the war, where there are more dead children than armed men," Mr Egeland said.

[papau]

15. Hezbollah fires one new long-range rocket-Khaibar-1 into northern Israel

Why would Israel think this is all about getting more new long-range rockets like the Khaibar-1 from Syria and into position via truck transport so as to fire then into northern Israel?

Why would they wonder about the UN request by Mr Egeland since he said "existing humanitarian corridors were not adequate to meet the immense needs of people in the war zone" - was it the lack of mention of Hez blocking those routes?

[KoKo]

21. Do you have a link for Hezbollah blocking relief routes? Thanks...n/t

[papau]

32. Link on Hez road blocks UN official Egeland had to pass in his inspection

At the moment Hez claims it is only blocking roads so as to prevent Israeli attacks on the homes in Lebanon.

right.....

here a Reuters report:


http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/July/middleeast_July498.xml§ion=middleeast

In bombed Beirut suburb, Hezbollah still in charge
(Reuters)

23 July 2006

BEIRUT - They don’t wear uniforms or identity badges, but the bearded men patrolling Hezbollah’s Beirut stronghold leave no doubt about who is in charge.

Israeli warplanes have launched near daily air strikes on Haret Hreik in Beirut’s southern suburbs, turning a Hezbollah compound to rubble and destroying apartment blocks.

But they have not dislodged the men in plainclothes, some armed, who stop cars trying to enter the area, questioning visitors and sometimes telling them to leave.<snip>

The defiant few who have remained in the southern suburb thank Hezbollah activists for "bringing supplies".<snip>

A Hezbollah guard dressed in black and armed with an assault rifle removed a road block to allow through the convoy carrying the official, U.N. emergency relief coordinator Jan Egeland.

Lebanese security forces escorting him were the only sign of the government in the area. Leaders of Shia Iran, a main backer of Hezbollah, peer at pedestrians from enormous portraits in the street.

The group organizes almost daily tours of the devastated district for reporters, photographers and cameramen.<snip>


Past road blocking for political effect:
http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/2006/June/June7/June7a/june7a.html

Wednesday, June 07, 2006

Hezbollah Riots in Beirut (closing roads over TV program scripted with a Nasrallah spoof by a Hez follower, all so Hez could object and close roads):

....In a coordinated move, thousands of followers to Hezbollah start rioting and attacking the Sunnis and Christian neighborhoods, in Beirut, blocking roads, burning car tires and attacking businesses, commercial establishments as well as innocent civilians...In a secret understanding Hezbollah chief Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah provoked this move with General Aoun...(and TV producer Charbel Khalil, .. a sympathizer of General Michel Aoun, and a member of his Free “Patriotic” movement in Lebanon, via his comedy that like all comedies broadcasted on TV are presented to the approval of the “Surete Generale” , where the director is a strong pro Hezbollah partisan, General Wafic Jazziri)- the results were the planned riots and its aftermath....

[KoKo]

39. It says Hizbollah removed the road block to allow Egeland through, though.

:shrug: The other link seems to be talking about a "spoof" on Hizbollah.

Well...whatever. Since Hizbollah is popular in Lebanon it can't be for their terrorist activities but for the hospitals and humanitarian aid they give the poor. So, it doesn't make sense that they would want to lose the support of those they've helped in the past by blocking aid now. At least that's how it seems to me.

[malaise]

24. Post the weapons Israel is using

to destroy all of Lebanon. Post and tell me which beach in Israel is covered in oil after a rocket hit an electricity plant. Post and tell me how many Israeli children are dead. Thanks.

Both sides are wrong but let's deal with scale here. Tell me why Israel won't agree to a truce so humanitarian releif can be taken to people and those needing medical help can reach hospitals.

[papau]

36. As to worry about scale - we agree - as to your specific question the

north of Israel folks are now "refugees" by the standards applied to Lebanon, with the power plant oil removed in Haifa so as prevent an environmental disaster when - not if - it is hit. It would appear that Hez refused to take the oil from power plants because it wanted the PR. Hez can really choose to aim those rockets - the fact that they have only gotten better at aiming in the last few weeks is not good.

When Hezbollah rockets killed 8 in Haifa on July 15th, US media did not split out the dead by age - as they seem to need to do in Lebanon since Hez gives then "data" so split. When the Hez rocket killed the very young Israeli arab girl we were of course told of her youth.

But as I have said again and again - the body count game reminds me too much of Viet Nam.

But I do worry about scale - but I have no solution - just as I had none in Viet Nam - for the problem of an enemy surrounded by a population that hides them.

But at least in Nam they were invaded - here it is just terrorists that demand the death of all Jews - and a population that agrees - indeed sometimes it is hard to feel as sorrowful about such a population's casualties as I felt for the folks in Nam.

[malaise]

40. So the power plant oil was removed in Israel

while Lebanon now faces the worst environmental disaster in Mediteranean history - how considerate.

Sadly I worry a whole lot about scale. The Lebanese people have no water, no food, no power and no medical care and bombs are still falling.

Please post the weapons.

Add.

[flyarm]

34. thanks for the article..but i have a question..

this was in the article..:

"Ms Rice is expected to lobby for a UN Security Council resolution that would lead to an international force being deployed in southern Lebanon. "


are you sure she can take time from her shoe shopping, her broadway plays , and her piano playing ..to do something so mundane like ..saving lives??

she couldn't during Katrina we know..and if i remember correctly 2 weeks ago Madaline Albright on Meet the Press was furious that Condi hadn't immediately dispatched to the region....

but not to worry Madaline..Condi had more pressing things ..like playing piano Friday night..the same night little lord pissy pants was meeting with American Idol floks at the white house..

shitttttttt..why would anyone think these so called leaders of the free world should disrupt such important things in their schedules....

after all..they have almost at their finger tips ..their NEW WORLD ORDER..

and the Isreali's are the gift givers!!

fly

[sandnsea]

29. They said there was a humanitarian corridor open already

They will also be proposing their own cease-fire terms shortly.

[Beelzebud]

38. Can't cause death and destruction with a cease fire going on!

[earth mom]

42. Bush & Co ain't gonna let em stop...

it's all part of the master plan for WW 3 and the Kingdom of George Bush right here in America! :grr:

Bye Bye America! Get ready ya'll! :scared: