I'll Meet You All At "The New Gitmo"

[kpete]

Are you an "enemy combatant"? Am I?
I'll Meet You All At "The New Gitmo"

Bush intends to "fix" the Hamdan situation by making it worse. He hopes to expand his abilities to subject American citizens to military justice -- with a presumption of guilt.

B) "Unlawful" enemy combatants are persons not entitled to combatant immunity, who engage in acts against the United States or its coalition partners in violation of the laws and customs of war during an armed conflict. Spies and saboteurs are traditional examples of unlawful enemy combatants. For purposes of the war on terrorism, the term Unlawful Enemy Combatant is defined to include, but is not limited to, an individual who is or was part of or supporting Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.

This bit is to be removed:

to have committed a belligerent act in aid of such an organization so engaged, or

(C) to have directly supported hostilities in aid of such enemy armed forces.

In other words, to be an enemy combatant, you need no longer commit a billigerent act. You need merely act against the current administration's war policies in any way -- for example, by protesting or writing an editorial against the war. Furthering the point, we have the following:

The President is authorized to establish military commissions for the trial of enemy combatants for violations of the laws and customs of war...

At present, this line refers to "alien enemy combatants." By striking out the word "alien," the Bushites have signaled their intention to Gitmo-ize domestic dissidents. Which explains why the administration plans to expand the Guantanamo gulag:

New maximum-security jail to open at Guantanamo Bay

Far from winding down, the controversial US detention centre is expanding
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
Published: 30 July 2006

The controversy over the US-run detention centre at Guantanamo Bay is to erupt anew with confirmation by the Pentagon that a new, permanent prison will open in the Cuban enclave in the next few weeks. http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1204499.ece

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/07/are-you-enemy-combatant-am-i.html
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/07/can_this_possib.html#more
http://balkin.blogspot.com/PostHamdan.Bush.Draft.pdf

[VelmaD]

1. See ya there...

I'll bring brownies. :)

Seriously though...wtf happened to my country?

[Kagemusha]

2. I'm no fan of this law but, that's not, I think, what 'direct support' is

I don't think writing an editorial fulfills the 'direct' part.

[iconoclastic cat]

4. Hello, frog. How's the sauna? nt

[Kagemusha]

5. Thank you for not reading the 'I'm no fan of this law' part.

Goodday.

[iconoclastic cat]

7. I read it.

And thanks for taking that comment as something aimed at you, personally, and not the American ignorigencia.

[Kagemusha]

8. Sorry then. I've had people chew me out for similar things

Didn't mean to follow that example. And take attention away from a stupid law proposal.

[iconoclastic cat]

10. NP. There will be people who think this latest step is necessary.

They will be boiled.

[kpete]

11. Are you referencing the frogs?

[otherlander]

18. One would like to think so...

but One knows too much about Uzbekistan.

[eleny]

9. Sen. Allard already said Howard Dean supports terrorists

See this thread in the Colorado forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=142x5066

From the Denver Post:
"Washington - Activist groups, bloggers and Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean on Wednesday castigated Sen. Wayne Allard for saying that another senator sides with terrorists.

In an interview first broadcast Monday, Allard told Denver radio station KOA-AM reporter Roger Hudson that Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., "has time and time again taken on the side of the terrorists that we're dealing with in this conflict.""

Believe what you want. But I think the administration will use any pretext to detain key individuals in the anti war movement if this becomes law. Allard's rhetoric is an example of how they think. It's a short hop to detaining people. Depends on how effective those individuals are in influencing public opinion.

Let me refresh your memory: "If you're not with us you're against us."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/06/gen.attack.on.terror/

[Codeblue]

24. Damn it

Damn Colorado senators and other nutjobs. They give everyone here a bad name, yet the majority of the people in the state are more liberal and less crazy than these people make us out to be...just pisses me off...

[eleny]

25. And we have to put up with Allard for some time yet

Welcome to DU and hi from Lakewood! :hi:

[alfredo]

13. bush can claim anyone is a terrorist.

[magellan]

3. If loving the former USA makes me an unlawful enemy combatant

...in the Bush** regime's eyes, good. It won't be the first time in history that those standing in opposition to a criminal dictatorial takeover were imprisoned.

[rucky]

6. First they'll go after college professors

and the few actual journalists left.

Then the "radicals" (Peace activists)

Then a few stray politicians.

then the rest of us.

[flyarm]

12. then the rest of us.??? will there be room for all of us?????????

what are the polls now..like 72 % dislike of little lord pissy pants???????

heck even my rabid rethug friends are cussing him loudly now...

anyway...party in cell #3..i have the popcorn and margarita's....

and a deck of cards...

and i am packing now!!

do you think our face cream will be allowed..the sun is hot down there..

and how about a swim suit??

ohh and my needlepoint??

what to pack.. what to pack.,..i am at a loss..


party on...

frozen rasberry and strawberry margaritas....on the beach at gitmo 2

fly

[kpete]

14. We will definitely need a coffee pot

I simply must have my coffee..

[flyarm]

19. oh shit i forgot the coffee...ok Kpete..you can share my cell any day!!

coffee is on its way into the suitcase right now..

without the coffee ..the guards in gitmo would send me back!!
grrrrrrrrrrrrr...

or they might have me drowned!!

oh no water boarding...shit ..lots of coffee going into suitcase..

thanks kpete for the reminder...

whewwww...you saved my life!!

fly

[kpete]

22. Ok flyarm

we'll be bunking together

an we'll be giving them HELL!!!

[flyarm]

27. ohhh they won't be able to deal WITH THE HELL WE WILL BE DISHING OUT!!

we will be their nightmare !!



;-) :evilgrin: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :nopity: :nuke:


:hi: :hi: :hi: :hug: :pals: fly

[readmoreoften]

15. The rest of us? I'm in two of the four categories.

I'll share my blanket with the rest of y'all. That is, if they give us blankets.

[flyarm]

20. oh no ..no way..no way in hell..

am i going without my blankie!! and satin pillowcase!!

a girl has to do what a girl has to do..and i will throw a hissy fit without my blankie!!

fly

[midnight]

26. Nazi Germany.

[readmoreoften]

16. And when we get there we can argue about pitbulls. /nt

[flyarm]

21. we will be the pitbulls!!....they aint seen nothing yet! n/t

[Julius Civitatus]

17. IMPEACHMENT.... pronto!!! Before we lose what's left of the Constitution!

Time for impeachment!

[BeHereNow]

23. Yup, I fit the bill for critisizing Israel's massacre of disabled kids...

"or supporting Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces
that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners."

Lord knows, criticism of war crimes and critical thinking
is UN-American under the Bush KKKabal.

See you all soon!

BHN

[flyarm]

28. taking reservations now..top bunk or bottom???

personally i go for the bottom bunks..with my blankie and satin pillow case!!

sign up here ..reservations at present are wide open..but at any time it could we could get overwhelmed and a wait list may become nessesary..so get your reservations now if you are fussy about your accomodations!!


fly

[BeHereNow]

30. Oh, We will make Purrfect cell mates!

I prefer the top!
Please, send me a confirmation of my reservation
as your bunkie mate in the American gitmo!
BHN

[flyarm]

31. the letter is in the mail!!..bunkie mate!!

kpete has the coffee pot..i have the coffee..but we may need some snacks..so thats your dept!!
and do not forget your blankie!!

fly

[flyarm]

29. reservations here!

name only at this time

bottom bunks:

1.flyarm
2.
3.
4.
5.



top bunks:

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.



p.s.we will have a no farting zone

p.s.s....if you are inclined to pass gas..do not sign up for top bunks!!

and

a snore free zone..