Cindy Sheehan - is it true (exploited a Katrina Victim)

[Kittycat]

Is it true that Cindy used a Katrina victim who claimed they were looking to start over, in order to purchase the land next to the Bush's?

The topic came up on another discussion board, and I just couldn't believe that this was the case - so I came here to get some answers.

Thanks.

[ComerPerro]

1. exploited? That's FReeper bullshit

EDIT: So is that the new talking point?

[valerief]

2. I read she used the insurance money she got from her soldier son's death.

[flordehinojos]

11. yes. i read something she wrote about it--i think it was even here that i

read it--but maybe not. but she said the land she bought is to fight W his illegal war . she also said her son would be proud of her and would want her to use the money to fight W.

And, darn. Somebody has to fight the bastard son of the bushes.

[blogslut]

3. as I recall

The fellow that helped her with the purchase was a Vietnam vet and Katrina survivor that wholeheartedly agreed to help her buy the land. No exploitation.

[ananda]

4. yep

"The fellow that helped her with the purchase was a Vietnam vet and Katrina survivor that wholeheartedly agreed to help her buy the land. No exploitation."

That is the case.

[trotsky]

5. It's in the definitions.

A Democrat turning to friends or networks to help accomplish something: exploitation.

A Republican turning to friends or networks to help accomoplish something: good ol' boys club.

See now?

[babylonsister]

6. Gerald T. Fonseca, NO native, acted as an agent for Cindy: she

DID NOT exploit anyone!

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/07/28/07282006wacosheehanlandbuy.html

//snip

Longtime Crawford resident Bobby D. Ramsey sold a little more than five acres to Gerald T. Fonseca, a New Orleans native who said he was displaced by Hurricane Katrina last fall. Fonseca was in Crawford along with hundreds of other war protesters when the hurricane destroyed his home Aug. 29.

Fonseca, who identifies himself as a Vietnam veteran and a member of Veterans for Peace, had been living more recently in Eagle Rock, Mo., with relatives. He has been in Crawford the past four weeks, staying at the Crawford Peace House.

Transfer planned

While Fonseca’s name is on the deed as the land’s new owner, Sheehan’s protest group will use the property for this year’s Camp Casey, the peace camp named for Sheehan’s son, Casey Sheehan, a 24-year-old Fort Hood soldier killed in Iraq in 2004.

In September, Fonseca said, ownership of the land will be transferred to Sheehan.

Ramsey, who soon may find unexpected neighbors when protesters move into a huge tent on the property he sold, said he was unaware before the sale that it would be used by Sheehan to host Camp Casey in August.

“(Fonseca) said he was going to build a home and, one day, a shop (on the land),” Ramsey said Thursday, speaking from his adjacent property in Crawford. “He told me that Katrina wiped him out.. . . . It didn’t even occur to me that he could use it for this.”

Fonseca confirmed he never indicated to his new neighbors that the land would be transferred to Sheehan, but he said that was always the plan. He said the $52,500 used to pay for the property — a spread of rustic, wooded prairie with no houses — came from Sheehan and her Gold Star Families for Peace.

Fonseca said he acted as “an agent” for Sheehan, negotiating the purchase and closing the deal with Ramsey.

“They’re really good neighbors,” Fonseca said of families nearby. “The idea again is that we’re here to be good neighbors, to make it as comfortable as we can for everyone.”

snip//

[Rosemary2205]

7. Good neighbors don't lie

“(Fonseca) said he was going to build a home and, one day, a shop (on the land),” Ramsey said Thursday, speaking from his adjacent property in Crawford. “He told me that Katrina wiped him out.. . . . It didn’t even occur to me that he could use it for this.”



If they wanted to get along and be good neighbors they would have been straight up about the purchase. I totally support Sheehan's cause of getting us out of Iraq but I'm sorry, I don't support lies and sneakiness to do it.

[babylonsister]

8. I agree; it seems a bit underhanded to me, as well. However, the

OP was addressing the exploitation of a Katrina survivor, not this.

[w13rd0]

10. Your original question was addressed...

...and so you changed gears. What's YOUR agenda?

[Rosemary2205]

13. You are confusing posters

babylon isn't the OP.

[babylonsister]

21. WHAT are you talking about?

:shrug:

[trumad]

9. Wahhhhh....

So the guy got his feelins hurt cause Cindy ends up the owner.

toooo fucking bad.

[GoldenOldie]

12. Appears Crawford has the biggest lie'n neighbor of the all

George W. Bush bought his pig farm for his campaign and to be used as the prop he needed to make him appear as authentic.......no cattle, no horses, no farming. He doesn't even have a ranch manager.

Georgie and Laurie are already looking for better digs, closer to civilization.....like Houston, Dallas, Austin, etc.

Georgie lied about WMD's. Georgie lied about MEDICARE drugs. Georgie lied to the Katrina victims. Georgie just about lies whenever he opens his mouth.

Is he a good neighbor????

[Rosemary2205]

14. GW is a scumbag, no doubt.

Sheehan isn't a scumbag -- and I expect better of her than this. Just MHO.

[blogslut]

18. better how?

seriously. what did she do that was so wrong? she had a friend make a land deal for her. she didn't steal it. she didn't receive it in trade for votes or influence. explain to me what was sooooooooooo wrong?

[Maat]

17. The Ultrarich Republicans act through agents all of the time.

This is commonly done in business, and is not generally regarded as being out-of-line; of course, everyone has their own individual opinion.

I know that it is commonly done; I am into real estate investments.

In law school, I went through an entire class on it ("agency").

[idgiehkt]

20. lies and sneakiness got us into this war.

which is the bigger crime?

[Swamp Rat]

15. Not at all... That is right wing nutjob propaganda.

But what would I know, since I am only from New Orleans and heard the truth from her own lips.

[Binka]

16. Thank You Swampy This Thread Is Total Garbage & FB n/t

[Swamp Rat]

19. Things that make you go "hmm..."

:D

[Binka]

22. I Didn't Go Hmmm I Said "This is MOTHERFUCKING Bullshit"

I "wonder" what other board the OP heard this on......

[Swamp Rat]

26. BRING IT ON!!! Here are the two pig-fuckers who likely started this rumor:

:D

[earth mom]

23. Please don't bring freeper memes here! Thanks! eom

[LWolf]

24. No.

As you saw in all the previous answers, there was no "using" involved.

Of course, if you are looking for reasons to find fault, just make some stuff up. That's what many Americans do these days when they want to "win" a talking point.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

25. When I see thread titles like this, I always look at the post ct.

Shocked, I tell you!

[Dinger]

27. What Discussion Board? Where's The Link? (nt)

[Beelzebud]

28. Some people say she boils kittens and eats them!!!

The horror I tell you!

Oh by the way. Nice try, troll.

[Richard Steele]

32. She turned me into a NEWT!

I got better...

[Beelzebud]

35. ROFL Monty Python's Holy Grail is CLASSIC! :)

Yes, I got the reference! :) I'm a Python fan too. :)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

40. Dammit

I was going to say she also rips the heads off kittens with her fiendish teeth and is rumored to use the American flag for toilet paper. Now you've ruined that for me... :P

[shaniqua6392]

29. Meow Kittycat!!! What a bunch of b.s. you are spitting at us!

When I heard that Cindy had a friend who was a Vietnam Vet buy that property for her I thought it was absolutely BRILLIANT! I laughed my ass off over that one. The good folks in Crawford have changed city ordinances and laws in order to keep the anti war movement from coming to Repukeville. But Cindy got one over on them, didn't she?? You should avoid going to "another discussion board" and maybe you will not be so confused about the issues. Cindy is doing what she needs to do. George killed her son. She has a right to stand in Crawford with her fellow protesters and there is not a damn thing that anyone can do about it! Now take these facts and go back to the other discussion board and spread the word.

[Ohio Joe]

30. Easy Folks

I am not seeing the OP saying anything bad here but rather just asking the question. I know I visit other sites that are not purely liberal and often come back here to check the facts because I can't believe what I've read. I know tempers are running high here lately but come on, lets not eat each other.

[Beelzebud]

31. Just looking for discussion with a hit-and-run post?

I might be willing to go along with what you said, if the OP actually responded to questions of what the source of this "information" was.

[Ohio Joe]

33. I don't know but...

If I had posted something and gotten this kind of reaction, I'd probably think twice about going on with it. As well, asking a question does not necessarily mean looking to discuss the topic and the answer came quick.

[Name removed]

34. Deleted message

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[Swamp Rat]

37. I hope you used K-Y

:D

Tudo bem? :hug:

[Tsiyu]

42. Asi asi .......and: You brat!

That was a verbal reaming, my dear Swampy! :spank:

We did have a nice visit except for that. My cousin's little boy had a birthday Monday, and she asked him what he wanted to do. He wanted to come up and visit Aunt bhg! (which pissed off his other aunt, but screw her.) I taught him how to make a good campfire and we took the kids swimming and had a nice visit with lots of discussions.

I am hanging in there. It is extremely hot today, our well is trickling and I am so fed up with my country and all the other idiots in the world that I want to SCREAM!!!! :grr:

I am SO missing being on a 50,000 Watt radio station where I could spout off at the idiots!

Love you! :hug:

[deaniac21]

36. Is there a Jamba Juice in Crawfordsville?

[lies and propaganda]

38. kittycat you smell really bad.

like a freeper.

[earth mom]

41. Yeah, whatever happened to Kittycat? Obviously a hit and run post.

:eyes:

Where's that alert button?

[Libby2]

39. *Yawn*

No, it was Bush that exploited them.

[MODemocrat]

43. Is this just something the fascists want to be discussed?

I don't believe it at all. They'll do anything to stop Cindy, so they start lies. :boring:

[pinto]

44. Locking.

As posted, we feel this can be taken as flamebait. Thanks.