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Thu Jan-19-06 08:20 PM
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What if the "Fucked Up Bushies are Correct?" What if America is Safer, |
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the Stock Market isn't great but STABLE, Environmentalists were "hysterical" and we can get along without "Full Species" we grew up with, and that Globalization is GOOD, and that while there will be a short "downside" in the END we will all GROW TO LOVE IT, and that America REALLY IS HATED and we need to realize that we have TRUE ENEMIES ...and they WANT TO DO US HARM...and that the only way we will survive with our American Values Intact is to DEFEAT THE ENEMY WHEREVER IT IS?
What if (God Forbid) BUSH IS CORRECT?
Why do I ask this? BECAUSE where are our Dem Leaders and the folks out there leading the IMPEACHMENT?
Only on the "Internets" do I see a REAL REVOLUTION...it's not out there where I live...I could be "Fringe Folks" because MOST AMERICANS SEEM TO BE DOING OKAY...and are SORT OF OKAY WITH BUSH AND THE REPUGS!
Tell me I'm Wrong...in what YOU SEE for Voting Rights Reform..with folks streaming in voicing ANGER and helping you fight against the Diebolds, Middle Americans Storming DC over their Parents CUT OFF FROM PRESCRIPTION DRUGS...MASSES OF FOLKS out THERE fighting to SAVE OUR ENVIRONMENT...Writing, Faxing and Phoning AGAINST THE BUSHIES?
I could go on....but in the over SIX YEARS, I've been fighting against these Bastards...I don't see that I have the HELP/EMERGENCY DEDICATION from the folks in My Community!
I only see ACTIVISM out here on the INTERNET.
Are we GROWING IN NUMBERS OR NOT...I don't see it "on the ground."
WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS??? :shrug: BECAUSE...MANY OF US..NEED to "MOVE ON."
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:21 PM
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What good is being "safe" if we are not Free?
The most closely guarded prisoner in the world is the safest person in the world.
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:23 PM
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4. I totally agree with you |
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:22 PM
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2. There is a huge disconnect |
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between real life and the internets.
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:22 PM
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3. what if quotation marks weren't abused so frequently? |
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these are all questions for us to ponder.
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:34 PM
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8. Sorry...I'm old school, publishing background..and Internet doesn't use or |
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is "visually" compatible..with my "old school" grammer.
Shame on me...sorry..but it's who I am...maybe it seems "oldie." I do try. But my old English/Grammer teacher is in the back of my head...
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:37 PM
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:25 PM
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5. I've thought along these lines as well.... |
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And its fiction. We have a major political inbalance in America that is the result of a corrupt fascist regime. Inbalances are never beneficial and though eventually they correct themselves humans will suffer in the process...
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:25 PM
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and read this link by Skinner!Get a grip! they're not fooling anyone anymore! :toast: Enjoy! :kick:
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:30 PM
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7. Can you send me some of whatever you're on? |
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looks pretty potent
thank you
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KoKo
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:51 PM
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13. I will...if you address what I asked in my OP...Fair Deal? n/t |
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:08 PM
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15. fair deal, EXCEPT that I'd need some of the aforementioned... |
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to be able to respond similarly
seriesly, tho, you make a hugh point.....I've thought about some of that before, as well, and think that, on a very superficial level, there's some validity; that's how most of the sheeple think, or are told to think, anyway, and their perceptions seem to be all that the junta needs to maintain power, right?
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:30 PM
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18. That's what's worrying me...talked to a friend tonight and the view |
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was what I expressed. Friend seemed to be not liking Bush but kind of okay with what's going on. Even though their small business (helping ADD Kids) is hanging on by a thread with funding and they've struggled so much...it seems they are not in the kind of what to them would seem a "Frenzy" about how Bush is destroying America. They just don't see it...they think it's just a bad time with terrorism "a problem."
That's what got me thinking to post this. How many OTHERS are out there? And WHY could they in their wildest dreamings IMAGINE BUSH as OKAY!!!
Sorry...don't have "weed, drugs or whatever" to exchange with you. And the "apostrophe police" from above thread are all over my tail tonight. :D
But..thanks for giving me your serious post..because it's good to know someone else is thinking about this.
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:35 PM
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9. You're Wrong And Howard Dean Said It Best... |
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At a recent speech in Kansas City... "“It’s discouraging because it seems so hard to make progress,” Dean said. “People say, ‘Where is the Democratic Party? Where is our message?’ ”
No matter how bad conditions become, Dean warned, pessimism is not an option.
“We have no right to be discouraged,” Dean said. “Dr. King went to jail. He and his people were beaten. Think of what he felt in that Birmingham jail writing those letters. He was looking at a whole country that needed to be woken up.”"
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:35 PM
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10. tsk tsk tsk, acid and heroin don't mix well, silly! |
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Thu Jan-19-06 08:50 PM
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12. lol's ...better than you, Buddy! How about an answer to my questions in |
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my post...if you can get off the "smokes" long enough. :D
hey...what are you doing out there?
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:04 PM
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14. Your reasoning has me wondering |
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If you think Bush might be right, you need to talk to some other people. Bushes war on terror is no different than the war on drugs, it's just a title, doesn't mean nothing. Who gets to decide who to fight over there. Condi, Rumsfeld, who are they, nothing but a mouth piece for Georgie. I do not take anything that man says, as nothing more than a joke. The world is worse than it has ever been. Just be patient, it will happen. The Dems have some strong voices, and they are using them. So what if it doesn't get on the evening news, their voices are being heard and the message is loud and clear. Why do you think Bush is so busy? It's just a distraction. He damn well didn't handle Katrina. We are not safer.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:33 PM
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19. thanks...I'm trying to get a grip on what I see out there in my community |
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and the difference in the life I live in "activism" on the Intenet and working in my Precinct for Election Reform. The only place I see true realization about Bush and what he's doing is on the Internet...not in my "activism" ouside. It was starting to get to me...the disconnect.
After all..as much as I love all of you on DU..one needs folks one can commune with in real life. I'm not seeing that...But, I live in a red state with a DINO Govenor. Maybe that's the problem.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:11 PM
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16. Safer Would Have Been Concentrating on Afghanistan |
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and leaving Iraq the hell alone! Saddam hated the likes of bin Laden and would never have let them in Iraq.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:21 PM
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17. People are upset but.......... |
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they are unwilling to do much about it. You are right when you say the true revolution is on the internet. We are the speakers of this movement. Keep speaking. People are listening.
The work is difficult and will continue to be so because as long as people have a little money and security it is easy to sit back and relax. That is ok. Not everyone is an activist. The message from this maladministration does suck many in but the hyprocrisy of it all is beginning to be felt.
People are beginning to understand that we are losing the freedoms we once identified ourselves with as Americans. Sadly that is still not enough to make everyone stand up and take to the streets to demand change.
Somehow all of us here have to figure out how to do that. I haven't figured out how to do that yet and despite my optimism I worry that we may be running short on time. However I do feel that there will be a point that all our non-activist friends will understand that it is time to make a stand. Hopefully it will not be too late.
Keep working. We all know it will not be easy. No great changes are.
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:36 PM
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20. Thanks for your post..you are seeing what I am. |
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And, I don't want to discourage anyone...but it does get hard. I'm usually bucking folks up when I can..but my dealings with folks out there on issues like Verified Voting in my Community...get me down.
I hear what you say about keeping at it. I just wish I was seeing our numbers on the ground pushing against the Bushies were growing. And, that worries me that folks out there may think BUSH is CORRECT! That was the point of my post.
Thanks for sharing your experience and views about "out there."
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Thu Jan-19-06 09:41 PM
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21. Be careful with the word globalism. You don't see any of the socialists |
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Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 09:42 PM by applegrove
in South America or Cuba try and stop trade. They just don't want the neocon version.
Fair trade is a good idea. So too giving poor countries the chance to redistribute wealth using national industries for a bit. Africa will only get out of poverty if agricultural subsidies to big business are cut.
It isn't trade that is the problem. It is that countries are supposed to be bullied into policies that benefit American industry.
In fact - that is what Liberalism means. Free trade is trade in the hands of any person - not just the church or the elites.
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