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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:59 AM
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Another Abramoff picture question - Is this him?
Is the guy in the W hat Abramoff?



The caption for this picture is:

Caption:
WASHINGTON, : US Secretary of State-designate Colin Powell, acompanied by Interior Secretary-designate Gale Norton (R), waves to the crowd as he arrives for the inauguration of US-President-elect George W. Bush 20 January 2001. AFP PHOTO/TIM CLARY (Photo credit should read TIM CLARY/AFP/Getty Images)
People: Colin Powell; Gale Norton
Copyright:
By/Title: TIM CLARY/Staff
Date Created: 20 Jan 2001 12:00 AM
City, State, Country: Washington, DC, United States
Credit: AFP/Getty Images
Collection: AFP
Source: AFP
Date Submitted: 27 Oct 2004 12:48 PM
File Size/Pixels/DPI: 276K/1152x1728/0

Keywords: DCX06; US-INAUGURAL-POWELL WAVES

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Another picture to match the glasses and the face with that I know is Abramoff.

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:03 AM
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1. Hmm...could be...


I did some comparison and I still can't tell with this one.

I'm closer to saying 'yes' with what you have.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:10 AM
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6. The hairline comes closer to the eyebrows
on the guy behind bush than Abramoff's is.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:11 AM
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8. You're right...I hadn't noticed that before n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:39 AM
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15. I don't think so
The guy behind Bush has shorter earlobes
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:31 AM
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26. the guy behind bush is secret service
this picture was identified by the french news agency that owns it, and they say this is a secret service guy. heard it on randi yesterday.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:03 AM
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2. That must be 80% of the crowd that was allowed to see him.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:05 AM
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3. Dunno but isn't that
Lindsey Graham? Doesn't he look adorable in his slicker?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:08 AM
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4. Lindsey looks like he's wearing a condom
:)
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:13 AM
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9. You are right! Ha Ha
That is pretty darned funny and he does not look all that happy about it. LOL.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:27 AM
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11. That's so appropriate since he's such a dick. n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:09 AM
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5. I guess it could be, but it also looks like DeLay to me.
Considering the group, it would more likely be DeLay than Abramoff.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:11 AM
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7. Isn't that Delay on the far right with the smirk and the slicker?
I just know there has to be one out there and it will be the last nail if we can find it.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:18 AM
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10. Cropped, 250% zoom, color balance, gamma up 1.3, you decide.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:37 AM
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37. I found another hat photo


nostrils are wider?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:42 AM
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39. that is a different angle and many years later
He has put on a good deal of weight over the years. It is a shot from below rather than from above. hard to compare those, imho. But, look at the little cleft/line in his chin. that line is visible in the original hat pic from the inaugural shot too.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:49 AM
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12. Hre's two more from that same time frame with glasses
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:50 AM by Sydnie


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f-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:19 AM
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13. I think it might be!
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:36 AM
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14. Looks like Will Pitt to me
:evilgrin: Will Pitt in a Dubya cap :rofl:

Okay, I'm better now...
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:43 AM
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16. nah, but it looks like Joe Pesci over there on the right
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:56 AM
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17. Bingo!... We got a winner!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 02:56 AM by Rainscents
Look at clif on bottom of his face... It is him!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:50 AM
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18. I thought so too
I think it might be. Imagine that.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 08:55 AM
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19. Does anyone see Abramoff on this website -- He's listed as a client....
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:01 AM
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20. Those all look like Hollywood types to me
Celebrities that everyone would recognize type pictures. I did see that he was listed as a client though. Interesting client list, isn't it?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:07 AM
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21. I looked at each pic, there are a couple that could be him, but
the links are bad. I guess if they were trying to hide a juicy pic of JA and someone they would have completely removed it, huh.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:10 AM
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23. Yeah I would think they would have
the one in my OP from the inagural wasn't listed with Abramoff in the saved file title. It was about Powell. I have been looking at all other names involved at that time, hoping to catch a snap of him that they hadn't found yet.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:34 AM
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35. I'm doing the same thing, hoping to find something. Trying to
search for old posts/articles but it doesn't seem to be working. Still getting newer Abramoff stuff. Just searching through old records of who slept in the WH - nothing. Don't you think it's odd that this guy was a pioneer for B** and there are no photos ? Which made me think - why did B** only return $6,000 - when a pioneer gives $100k plus???
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:38 AM
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38. The Pioneers only arrange for the 100 thousand
They don't take it out of their own pocket, they arrange for others to donate up to the $100,000 mark when they are all added together. When you consider it, it was an easy thing for him to do. Why wasn't he a RANGER instead? That would have only been doubling down his bet and raising $200,000. Seems that could have been an easy task for him to have done too.

I was wondering why there are no pictures of him when he as doing his dirty deals in Africa either. Someone who trades his services by talking about the face time he can get with these guys, you would think there were be a plethora of pictures of him out there, wouldn't you?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 11:36 AM
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40. Your first paragraph - Yes, I understand that - but aren't there
some members of congress/senate who are returning "Abramoff-affiliated" donations, not directly from him, but from his clients? Seems the same to me. Or is it that people are only returning money when it involves a JA client that has been in the news forefront? Duh, never mind, answered my own question - the Pioneer money may be from completely unaffiliated donors...

Have picked up little tidbits on my search. I've been searching through Fred Zeidman. Big Bush buddy, contributor, and appointee from Houston who ends up at the same lobbying firm as Abramoff. Both Jewish. And Bush doesn't know Abramoff? right.. I read another article that said Jewish groups hired JA during prez campaigns too.

I bet someone will get burned on the Medicare bill somehow. I didn't know that Abramoff was a big lobbyist for drug companies like Eli Lilly.

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:13 PM
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41. I don't think he ever met a bank account he didn't like and
wouldn't at least pretend to work for.

Check out the South African stuff he was doing in the 80's. It will curl your hair.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:41 PM
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42. I will. Here's a weird thing I found...
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:56 PM
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43. Damn! I hadn't seen that before
What are you using as a search term to get taht? I wanna do that too!

I have to digest that article closer. I repeat, DAMN! That was in 2001!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:50 PM
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46. Sydie - Using AskJeeves.com, advanced. Plugging in a
date range 1998-2002 for "last updated." But, that is what I was saying doesn't seem to be working too well, because I get a lot of newer stuff. I think I eliminated "doesn't include" the words "investigate". Hmm, looks like Washingtonian has some...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:08 PM
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48. Wow! quite a site
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 01:05 PM
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44. You have to search archives of LOCAL papers.. The AP/Reuters
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 01:05 PM by SoCalDem
versions are too easy to find(and remove).. I have also been looking at hundreds/thousands of personal photo sites.. People take pics and don;t know who else is in the picture.. No luck yet..but I have added some doozies of Bush to my repertoire :)
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 06:11 PM
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45. Thanks for the tip
I have started doing that too. I wonder if I should send this one to the Washingtonian and see if they can figure out if it is him or not?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:10 AM
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22. don't see it... too bad
that cagey fucker probably made sure not to be photographed with Pres. Psycho-Killer... but everybody slips up.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:23 AM
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24. The jerkoff with the "W" on his cap? That's Abramoff.
Of course, anyone who would wear a cap with "W" for the crazy monkey is a jerkoff.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:33 AM
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28. You think that is him? really?
That is from the 2001 inagural! Not everybody gets invited to sit in the stands with the Senate and the cabinet. I would love for that to be him.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:05 AM
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31. Jack does have a thing for hats.
Check out the shape of the ears. That earlobe is a giveaway, as the nose and the five-o'clock shadow.





The Secret World of Jack Abramoff

http://www.madcowprod.com/06202005.html

Must like to play dress-up like his hero, I guess.






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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:30 AM
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33. Heavens Gate? Holy shit!
You know and remember more than I ever attempted to learn about. I would love it if you would do a post on how Heavens Gate is mixed up in all of this, if you know. Can it be that big of a stretch to them look at Waco and Oklahoma?

Damn.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:26 AM
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25. got the old magnifing glass out, sure could be
the bottom picture I'm not so sure.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:31 AM
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27. The bottom picture is a confirmed picture of him
As the the smaller two in post #12.

Here's another from that time period.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:34 AM
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29. Ok I'll buy that, the top one looks like him to me for sure.
the way he carries himself and all, the stance
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:38 AM
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30. Looks close....but I don't think it's him n/t
....
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:12 AM
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32. So where's dubya in that pic?
We need pics of Dub and Ab together.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:31 AM
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34. He is being sworn in as the 43rd President at the time
Makes me think, if that is him, there is someone that was there that has a shot of the two of them at least in the same frame.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 10:37 AM
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36. He definitely has that same smarmy smile.
It could be him.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 07:03 PM
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47. Right above Colin Powell, is the three footer, Lindsey Graham?
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 07:09 PM by 0007
Sure lot of BB eyed fuckers there.....

It does look like Jack Abramoff, but I not 100% sure. His beard shadow is apparent in both photos.
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