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Thu Aug-17-06 05:16 AM
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So the Rightwingnuts actually should be scared when he comes back.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:18 AM
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1. And a RADICAL liberal, at that. nm |
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:48 AM
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37. I'd say more of a kind religious anarchist |
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He certainly had no use for government. He never callled for any increase in the bread dole or organize a march on Caesaria. Rather each person's salvation depended on himself alone.
He also claimed to be the son of God, so he was either the messiah, or a very crazy guy.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:18 AM
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:22 AM
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35. he'd give us all hell......I'm sorry to say........ |
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None of us "Turn the other cheek" None of us "Love our neighbor and our enemy" as we should
Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam in thine own eye? 5. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I guess the point is that we are so far away from where he was in his teachings that we'd be stuck.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:26 AM
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3. Woody Guthrie said that Jesus was the first socialist outlaw. n/t |
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:28 AM
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4. Further proof that these anti-communist/socialist preachers |
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Don't know what the hell they're talking about
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:31 AM
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5. And he wound up dying on a cross |
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Not much has changed, except this time he'd be at Gitmo.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:34 AM
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6. Oh Really? Thank You For Your Profound Sense Of The ... |
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obvious. The fact Jesus has been hijacked by the GOP war mongers, haters and thieves to support their evil deeds of greed, graft and grief, is a testiment to marketing.
Next you will tell me Bush lied, people died and the media cheered.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:38 AM
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8. Actually, you said it all for me |
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:44 AM
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:35 AM
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7. Maybe these good Christian, war mongering bu$h supporters need |
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to be reminded of that fact. Who did Jesus kill?
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:40 AM
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:43 AM
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10. Its bad form to assign Jesus any political affiliation. |
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He said give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give unto God what belongs to God.
Jesus' words speak for themself. In a nation that is strongly shaped by those words' they should form the basis of agreement between both sides of the political spectrum and that is how they should be used.
In other words, don't say "Jesus agrees with me". Say, we all agree with what Jesus said when he said "x". What are the correct ways of living out that statement through policy.
That much said, at the time He spoke those words, he certainly was considered progressive - to say the least.
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:47 AM
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12. Notice I didn't say that "Jesus was a Democrat" |
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Thu Aug-17-06 05:52 AM
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And I doubt that he would be.
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Thu Aug-17-06 06:22 AM
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:18 AM
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16. Being a Liberal has nothing to do with politics |
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Read Isaiah 5-8... By Liberal things shall he be known..
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:23 AM
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17. Somehow I doubt the ancient Greek or Aramaic word |
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that has been translated into "Liberal" in this version of the bible you quote is exactly the same meaning as you are using it.
Heck, the word "liberal" has a totally different meaning in Europe than in the US.
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:43 AM
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33. I am fairly certain it is used exactly correctly in the King James version |
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I don't know what your definition of a Liberal is but I am comfortable with the description in the Bible. Liberals may turn their passion to politics but a lot just turn their passion toward doing good to their fellow man and the earth. For you to automatically assume that Liberal is political is quite telling.
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:56 AM
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34. Yes, but the Kind James bible was probably a translation |
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of a translation. From Greek, which was translated from the aramaic.
You have, of course heard that the Greek word for "young woman" was the one used translated into "Virgin" right?
Since this is a political website, taking things from a poltical point of view shouldn't shock you very much. Besides, here I was talking about translations. Feel free to give me your definition of liberal - I would be quite interested.
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Thu Aug-17-06 06:29 AM
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15. He was also a Jew. So I can't understand Christian antisemitism. |
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I saw a bumper sticker the other day here in the bible belt. It said "My boss is a Jewish liberal carpenter". I love it.
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:29 AM
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19. Anti-Semites is routed in a variety of phenomena, most |
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blatant of which is the consistent need in human society for a scapegoat when things get bad.
In religious terms, God-killer has often been used as an accusation to apply collective guilt to the Jewish people because their leaders at the time allowed or even facilitated Jesus' execution (of course if he hadn't been crucified, he would never have saved mankind, but who wants to let details get in the way).
The more intellectual justification for anti-semitism (in religious terms) is that the continued existence of Jews (who were originally chosen by God to receive His word) cast at least some measure of doubt on the validity of Jesus' claims to be the saviour of all mankind. If that was the case, why wouldn't all Jews have accepted Him rather than just some?
The Vatican has recently (1960s I think) reconciled this by claiming that God, being timeless, simply does not break his covenant. He made a covenant with the Hebrew people and that remains forever eternal. Jesus allowed for a new covenant for all of mankind (minus the circumcision), but that did not negate his previous covenant.
Sorry if that was too much.
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:39 AM
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20. Islamophobia: Today's Brand of AntiSemitism |
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For centuries, professing Christians blamed Jews for every misfortune in the world. Today, many right wing professing Christians are attributing every manner of evil to Semitic Arabs and Muslims of other ethnicities.
It's a strange world that we live in.
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:52 AM
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24. I don't think so. There are a lot of things for which they blame |
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liberals.
Moreover, I think the reverse tends to be more true. Muslims often appear to blame all their ills on Israel and the West.
If both would just disappear the earth with be a sharia paradise.
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:23 AM
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18. Maybe that should now be "Jesus was a Leftie" |
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and you get closer and see the subheading:
"And was thrown out of the Republican party"
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:11 AM
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27. You mean he played baseball? |
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:12 AM
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28. you really should add a smiley |
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but, if you're serious, ...
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:20 AM
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30. Apologies for lack of smiley :0) |
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:48 AM
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poor, sick, elderly, acceptance, forgiveness, love, toleration, new ideas
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:49 AM
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22. "But God's on our side!" |
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..... um, I kinda hope that we are on HIS side..... kinda egotistical to say that he is on ours.
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Thu Aug-17-06 07:50 AM
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23. and I agree with most of his philosophies |
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He just lost a lot of credibility when he claimed to be the son of a god.
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:02 AM
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26. That's Pretty Indisputable |
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Although some are trying hard to deny it.
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:13 AM
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29. There are times when I wish there really WAS going to be a Rapture... |
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So we could laugh and point at all the falsely pious freaking out.
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Thu Aug-17-06 08:34 AM
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31. I agree, thinking that the world would then be rid of them |
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but then I realize that the would all be left behind!
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Thu Aug-17-06 09:29 AM
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. It's a song that's all about hypocrisy! "JesusLand"http://www.thatguitarman.com/MP3/jesusland.mp3Crank the volume! - - David Ippolito
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Thu Aug-17-06 06:45 PM
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38. Yeah ... and look what the establishmentarians of his day did to him! |
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Thu Aug-17-06 06:47 PM
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39. You, jesus, we would expect to be so |
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We recognize you, jesus, with your compassionate heart and undying respect for the sacred perfection of all god's existance, and since most persons believe they are a little bit jesus, why not you?
Really it is you, and you are the reincarnation of jesus, really! And that is why you find the christian cross so abhorrent.
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