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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:41 AM
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George Allen Is Done.
Talk about someone who's star is fading. I'm going to make a rash prediction here: Webb will beat Allen in November, but even if I'm wrong, Allen will never be the repuke candidate.

I've just been perusing over in Fweeperville. Even those idiots have gone from enthusiasm over Allen for 2008, to forget it- Allen's not ready for prime time. There are threads about his owning stock in Barr Laboratories, many posts stating he was stupid with his Macacca remarks, and many other put down comments.

Which brings us to another point: Who the fuck are pubs going to nominate? They've got a very controversial and thin field: McCain, who the base loathes, Guiliani, who they don't care for much more, Romney, who's Mormon faith is suspect to many fundies, and others, and that's about it.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:43 AM
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1. I hope so. I'm sooo ready for some upsets this November.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:43 AM
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2. no one likes a racist
even the freeps are embarrassed by this Allen idiot
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:46 AM
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3. It's not just the racist thing
Hell, freeps are OK with racists; it's that Allen has proved himself to be a buffoon- a swaggering buffoon. He's turning himself into a laughing stock.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:48 AM
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6. I think that's it
They don't mind racism but they realize that its stupid in america to broadcast your racism. Plus a certain percentage of moderate conservatives wants desperately to believe that despite the harm their policies are causing black communities they are still the party of lincoln.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:57 AM
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8. Yes, the Colin Powell Republicans.
The woods are full of them where I live (rural-to-suburban eastern PA). Affluent life-long Republicans who honestly and truly do not think of themselves as racist, no matter what judgments others may have about it. Anyone who demonstrates overt racism is an embarrassment to them. And they ALWAYS make sure you know how much they revere Colin Powell.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:10 AM
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12. to quote this week's Top 10...
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 07:11 AM by progdonkey
That's right: the subject of George Allen's embarrassing rant was the person who was there to videotape him in case he made any embarrassing rants. Now that's what I call "savvy politics."


It's not that he called an ethnic Indian a monkey or that he assumed the brown-skinned fellow needed to be "welcomed" to America and Virginia (especially considering the "immigrant" was actually born in VA, unlike Allen), or even that he got caught on tape doing it--it's that he looked directly into this guy's camera and did this. He wasn't "caught" like Bush and Cheney with the "major-league asshole" remark, he actively created this scandal.

He's not just a racist but also a complete dumbfuck.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 09:08 AM
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23. He's another bush.
Stupid, easily steered. He's just what the neocons are looking for to take over when shrub leaves. Jeb isn't dumb enough, Frist isn't either and sometimes makes sense (can't have that). They need another idiot they can program and do whatever they say.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:47 AM
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4. The base will have no problem with McCain...
He will continue to kowtow (cowtow?) to them and they will buy it because they know he will be their best shot at keeping themselves in power. Their hatred of dems and liberals trumps all. And McCain despite their misgivings about him is neither a dem or a liberal and if he is the nominee that is all that will matter to them.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:53 AM
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7. All McCain has to do is attend a few Baptist churches,
visit Bob Jones U a few more times, visciously attack gays and abortionists, and stay friends with Joe Lieberman. The fundies will come out in droves in '08.
Can you say.....President McCain?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:05 AM
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20. All he has to do is talk God, Guns, Gay Hatred, & old Glory. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:11 AM
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21. Nope,
that won't do it for the base; they'll just accuse him of pandering. In fact, that's what they do over in freeperville. There is no politician so hated by the repuke base as McCain.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 08:42 AM
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22. I hope you are right because he would be tough to beat. The media
loves him and I think he has a lot of respect across America (not me) because of his war record.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:04 AM
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9. I disagree
The base has a visceral dislike and contempt for McCain. They don't trust him, and nothing he does seems to placate them.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 11:14 AM
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24. Your assesement is based of the notion that...
the republican base does anything out of principle and beliefs rather than simply in an effort to maintain power. If they see McCain is their best hope to maintain that power they will support him. Gone are the days when they "sit out" elections because the candidate isn't conservative enough. This isn't 1992 any more. The base has had a taste of power and they will not under any circumstance give it up.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:47 AM
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5. I'm praying for Newt Gingrich
that would be so easy to attack. Meanwhile, it's very early to predict Allen's downfall. If he wins this, all will be forgotten by 2008.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:46 AM
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19. Yeah, I know I'm being awfully hopeful
with my prediction, and Webb is seriously underfunded, but I do think Allen has removed himself from being a contender in 2008. It's not only the recent racist comments, it's his less than stellar TV appearances and several other faux pas.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:08 AM
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10. who? jeb, that's who.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:09 AM
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11. Jeb could get nominated but
I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell, that he could actually be elected in 2008. The bush name is a liability at this time.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:41 AM
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17. that's just who i think the repukes stand a good
chance of nominating.
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pazuzu Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:18 AM
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13. One word: Brownback
The xtians will eat his rhetoric up. He said since Sweden legalized gay marriage, "they are known by their FRUITS."
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:29 AM
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16. Haley Barbour is another possibility.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:23 AM
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14. I'd love to see....
that constant, phony smile wiped off his face. :D
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:26 AM
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15. Oh, Jesus will be back by then. They'll put him on the ticket.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:45 AM
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18. This from Election Central:
VA-SEN: Poll: Allen's Lead Over Webb Shrinks To Three Points
By Greg Sargent | bio

GOP incumbent Senator George Allen's "Macaca" remarks have turned the contest with Dem challenger James Webb into a real race. An exclusive Survey USA poll done for WUSA-TV shows that Allen's once-double-digit lead over Webb has shriveled to three points -- 48% to 45%. From the WUSA analysis: "Allen has lost support across all demographic groups, but in particular, among younger voters, he has gone from Plus 23 to Minus 17, a swing of 40 points. In Southeastern VA, Allen has gone from a 2:1 lead to a tie, a 31-point swing." Don't mess with Macaca!

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/aug/21/va_sen_poll_allens_lead_over_webb_shrinks_to_three_points
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