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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:13 AM
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UNDER FIRE - ABC Yanks Official Blog of 9/11 Docudrama
Under Fire, ABC Yanks Official Blog of 9/11 Docudrama

On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama” called “Path to 9/11″ being billed as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.” In fact, the film was written by an unabashed conservative who twists the facts to blame President Clinton.

The show’s official blog attracted many comments from the public criticizing the film for its inaccuracies. In response, writer Cyrus Nowrasteh and director David Cunningham posted a number of strikingly defensive blog posts. Some excerpts:

more at:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/04/path-blog-yanked/
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:15 AM
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1. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!
Now, let's see if we can yank the documentary next!

:woohoo:
rocknation
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:43 PM
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51. by the 5, 6, 7, 8s... ?
or the bon voyage theme?

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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:17 AM
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2. We should keep the pressure up
maybe instead of pulling the blog they should pull the damn docudrama....we know darn well that many people who watch this shit will believe it...
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:21 AM
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3. I have emailed ABC and will continue to do so .
We have to get this pulled off the air.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:07 PM
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27. i used to like the show REBA until they she dissed the Dixie Chicks
i have not watched it since, despite wanting to at time.

ABC will lose my support in many timeslots because of their willingness to air a fairy tale in the guise of a docudrama. they would never consider airing a Democratic version i'm sure.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:16 PM
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28. I've emailed them also, but I'm going to call tomorrow.
I urge everyone to do the same!

(818) 460-7477

My beef is not that they're airing something written from a conservative veiwpoint. My beef is that they're billing their conservative viewpoint as unbiased. That's bullshit.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 07:58 PM
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46. Thanks for the number,I'll call as well.
Wow,imagine that! we are actually being heard.Strength in numbers guys.Keep it up. :kick:


Oh,and thanks for the post :)
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:36 AM
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73. Or at least get them to more honestly advertise the program
Allowing such a program to be loosely based on fact is unacceptable given the topic, its sensitivity, and that we're 2 months from an election. How is this any different from those Sinclair (ABC!) stations during the 2004 election that wanted to air that anti-Kerry "documentary"?

Really need to hit Keith Olbermann, too. I'm sure MSNBC would love to do a smackdown of the show if it is as biased as its "about" page leads me to believe.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:59 PM
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91. Isn't ABC owned by Disney? The same that refused F 9/11...?
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 09:14 PM by bliss_eternal
They didn't want to alienate those that saw the documentary and refused to distribute the film, because it was critical of *.

I found this old link about Disney's decision about F9/11...(excerpt):

Disney Says No to "Fahrenheit 9/11"
Posted on May 5, 2004 11:29 PM under: World News & Politics

The Walt Disney Company has blocked distribution of Michael Moore's new film "Fahrenheit 9/11" simply because it is critical of the U.S. President George W. Bush.

The film -- which links Bush with powerful Saudi families, including that of Osama bin Laden -- is set to debut at the Cannes Film Festival in France later this month.

The reason?
According to today's edition of The New York Times, it might 'endanger' millions of dollars of tax breaks Disney receives from the state of Florida because the film will 'anger' the governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.

taken from:

http://www.subzeroblue.com/archives/2004/05/disney_says_no_to_fa.html

Fair is fair. We need to put the pressure on ABC and Disney about this--it's bullshit!

I'm going to be calling both tomorrow and e-mailing both today!

:mad::grr::mad:
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:06 AM
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95. The repukes and neocons
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 02:18 AM by libhill
are getting desperate - their days are numbered, people are waking up to their shit, all they have left to fall back on is the "blame it all on Clinton" ploy. I don't think that shit is going to cut it anymore...
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:25 AM
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98. Funny...
my husband said the same thing to me tonight about this. They are desperate.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:21 AM
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4. It is a right-wing neoconservative white-wash of BushCo failures
...prior to, on and following the events of 9/11. Pure docudrama bushit!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:25 AM
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5. On 9/10 I'll be watching the OSU-UT game
On 9/11 I'll be at work.

I'm ignoring it.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:26 AM
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6. Didn't one of the big tv stations yank a show about the Ray-guns
after the worshipers threw a fit? Was it ABC? I'm not sure yanking it is the right approach, but some clear discussion about bias and inaccuracies ought to be promoted heavily. Disclaimers throughout the breaks etc?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:33 AM
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9. ABC better cancel this show. It is full of lies. If they air it, I will.
be compelled to add them to my place in my sig line: "The New Terrorists".
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:47 AM
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11. Hate America First Crowd = ABC
Would be appropriate also.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:04 AM
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14. It's going to backfire. One third of the country thinks BUSH DID IT!
After they air their lies more people will join the backlash.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:46 PM
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88. VERY Good Point
I was actually quite surpised at that "one-third" figure.

Though of course I have my, so to speak, own sneaking suspicions.

For example, ahem, why did Bush and Cheney testify together and not under oath?

Hmmmm....

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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:13 PM
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104. Because
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 06:14 PM by libhill
Chimpy's handlers know he can't be trusted not to fuk things up, without Dead Eye Dick around to hold his hand... I always suspected that Chenney is the "power behind the throne".
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:09 AM
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96. And I'm sure that
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 02:20 AM by libhill
many more than that think that Bush at the very least allowed it to happen, if nothing else. Any way you look at it, the fukker has a lot to answer for...
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:08 PM
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56. CBS, cuz Ronnie thought he was the antichrist. Go figure, nt
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:20 AM
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71. CBS yanked the 4 hour mini-series, 'The Reagans'
It did air on their premium channel affiliate, Showtime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Reagans

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:30 AM
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7. What's ABC afraid of? heehee! K&R nt
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:33 AM
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8. Good! K & Friggin' R!
Hopefully there's more coming.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:34 AM
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10. The writer, Nowrasteh, calls himself a "Libertarian" and bashes Moore:
Sourcewatch has an article on him here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Cyrus_Nowrasteh

Cyrus Nowrasteh is a Persian-American who was born in Boulder, Colorado, and grew up in Madison, Wisconsin. His "family had to flee Iran when it was taken over by Islamic fundamentalists."

Nowrasteh "attended New Mexico State University on a tennis scholarship, but later transferred to U.S.C. to study in their renowned School of Cinema."

Among his most recent writing and producing credits are "The Path to 9/11" (2006 Docudrama), a 6-hour miniseries to be shown September 10 and 11, 2006, on ABC, and "Into the West" (2005), a TV miniseries. Other credits include the Paramount/Showtime production The Day Reagan Was Shot (2001); Showtime's 10,000 Black Men Named George (2002); "the independent 1996 Sundance hit, The Interview, "Nikita" (1997) (which was "the pilot for the hit USA Network series, La Femme Nikita), and the adaptation of Alan Dershowitz's novel, The Advocate's Devil (1997) (TV) for ABC."

On Michael Moore

"To quote Team America, he’s an out of control socialist weasel (laughs). Listen. I’m probably more of a libertarian than a strict conservative. In my writing and directing, I don’t want to just be a conservative version of Michael Moore. I’m here to tell a good story first and foremost - and that’s why I can navigate the networks and get my work produced."—Interview, June 9, 2005.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:05 AM
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25. "I don’t want to just be a conservative version of Michael Moore"
You failed ASS HOLE!!

How do we go after ABC & get this movie pulled??

I'm fucking pissed after seeing him compare himself to a convervative M. Moore. Can you imagine if Michael Moore was writing a "docudrama" from a big 4 TV outlet?? :mad:
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #10
70. Yeah. Tell a good story
and the truth be damned.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:58 AM
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12. Libertarian my ass
He is a shill for the administration. He wouldn't make a pimple on the ass of a good Libertarian.
:dem:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:57 AM
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24. Libertarian is the name many super-RW ass holes use as a distraction
I hate these fucking sleaze-balls who can't face the music. I have an uncle through marriage who describes himself as a libertarian. After talking with him, my father asked him if he was a Nazi. My mother-in-law pulled him aside and told her brother to shut up. Libertarian my ass - he uses that as a cover to be misogynistic & bigoted & hateful.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:37 AM
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26. Yeah, it's a cover
Like lieberman's independent Democrat. Total hogwash to cover for their games.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:17 PM
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80. A libertarian is a Republican who likes to smoke pot. n/t
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:51 PM
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92. True--when in doubt, watch South Park.
As much as they like to say they skewer both political parties, they tend to be biased against "hippies" and take a bit too much joy (for my taste) in spending more time bashing the left than the right.

So they are full of shit as far as I'm concerned.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:14 PM
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101. Republicans who wanna smoke pot, is what I call them! NT
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:01 AM
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13. BOYCOTT!!
any firm that pays for ad time. Money they understand.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:26 AM
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17. You got it!
BOYCOTT
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:33 AM
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19. I just emailed ABC and asked for a list of the sponsors
for the upcoming 9/11 docudrama. If they respond to the email, I will post the sponsors and we can then bombard them. Although I think the chances of that are slim to none. But I didn't give the reason for my request, and I did say please. :)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:51 AM
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23. You Know, They Seem To Be A Bit Secretive About The Sponsor List
I have NOT been able to find out, AT ALL.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:16 PM
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102. NO SPONSORS, none at all. Three ass hardening hours
each for two nights. They were going to have DISNEY sponsor it, then decided to skip sponsors.

Who in their right mind would buy time for that shit?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 01:35 PM
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30. If you don't get a list of sponsors for that program
...then just begin to contact sponsors from their other evening programs. Let them know why you will be boycotting their products. They may not be sponsoring the offensive program, but they will damn sure contact ABC and let them know that they are paying the price.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:15 PM
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49. Tell ABC to NOT show PATH TO 9/11..
http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html

The information in it is misleading and severly inaccurate, this is Right-Media propaganda to shift blame for 9/11 from BushCo to the Clinton Adminestration.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:57 AM
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62. I'm compiling a list on this thread.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #19
74. Have You Heard Anything Yet?
I don't think ABC wants that info out. They know what'll happen if it does!
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:50 PM
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89. Best idea yet!!!
Please post it large and loud. I'd watch the damn show just to find out who does sponsor this capola and never buy anything they sell again in my entire lifetime. This sham fries my ass!!!!
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:06 AM
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66. they are running it without ads, no sponsors
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117949477?categoryid=14&cs=1&s=h&p=0
ABC sets ad-free '9/11'
'Path' is clear of commercials to varied outlets

ABC has decided the best sponsor for its upcoming Sept. 11 mini is no sponsor at all.
After originally announcing its intention to air "The Path to 9/11" with limited commercial interruption, the network now will air both parts of the $30 million Harvey Keitel starrer without any advertising.

What's more, the Alphabet will potentially limit its backend profits by allowing consumers to download the complete miniseries -- for free -- via Apple's iTunes Music Store. Mini also will be streamed for free via ABC.com, and XM Radio has pacted with the network to make an audiocast of the film available to its subscribers.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:22 AM
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67. So how do they expect to make any money off it?
Are the businessmen of ABC really giving their product away for free?

It is a truism that television entertainment is the draw to get audience for commercials. those commercials pay for that entertainment. How do they gain, if they are not getting paid?

They are either getting paid under the table by the administration, or they are offering this up in expectation of political favors in the future - and as it is a slam on one political party and a paean to the party in power it is obvious which is being favored.

This is a blatant political ad for the Repubs, and should be covered by whatever campaign laws are appropriate - and advertised as such.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:51 AM
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99. There are still those missing billions sent to Iraq.
Maybe some of that money is going to ABC for this propaganda; after all, the govt. has given money to foreign outlets to run their programming and has even done so here in the US. I wouldn't doubt this one bit.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #66
76. This often means no one is willing to pay for ads.
Interesting.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:04 AM
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15. ABC should offer a rebuttal show afterwards, hosted by Richard Clarke...
:think:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 05:39 PM
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42. Goddamned Good Idea!
Let's roll!
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:11 AM
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59. WHY NOT BY ONE OF THE STILL LIVING (SUPPOSED) HIJACKERS!!! N/T
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:14 AM
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16. Is ABC still owned by Disney?
I just finished the book, Disney War, and up to last year, Disney was still the owner. Maybe emails threatening to boycott Disney might also carry weight.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:31 AM
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18. Yes, Disney owns ABC and ESPN. n t
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drbtg1 Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #16
65. Yes, the same company that refused to distrubute Michael Moore's film...
...based it was too political, but has no problem giving Limbaugh a try-out on ESPN and still has him on WABC-AM in NYC.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:37 AM
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20. ABC is PATHETIC
ABC sucks and I'm boycotting them.
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brentblack Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:52 AM
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63. Damn 'LOST'
Can't avoid ABC.....
Got Kids....can't avoid Disney


Darn my obsessions....
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #63
77. Your choice... you decide your priorities.
Please give careful consideration to what's important to you.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:46 AM
Response to Reply #77
93. These Disney fans won't give them another dime...
Sure, it will suck--but our priorities make them no longer a priority for us.

Dh and I love to go walk around the resort for date nights. We love to shop for relatives there. But I'd rather make that sacrifice than to endorse them with my money. There are plenty of other amusements in southern California.

With this choice on the part of ABC/Disney they are telling me they don't care about or want my support, so I'll take it away.

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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:39 AM
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21. Next Target: The "helpful" Teacher's Guide (yes, really)
Oh, don't complain, it's not a documentary. Really. It's not reality.

But please do teach it in schools.

More insidious neofascist propaganda.

In only a cursory glance:

"Wars with nearly all of Israel’s bordering nations have led to tension in the region. For decades, the Israelis have fought with Palestine for control over areas of land called the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights."

Is "Palestine" just one of those "bordering nations?" If so, why doesn't it appear on the helpful list of relevant nations in the area? And why isn't Saudi Arabia there? You'd think with OBL being a Saudi it might be of some import. Oh right, then you'd have to include that it's a monarchy and explain that. Best to leave out Jordan and Kuwait as well.

They have helpfully included a country called The United States of America. With that vital facts like "Seventy-seven percent of the population is Christian" and the "current president ... reorganized the national government in an attempt to combat terrorist activity."

No mention that he "reorganized" it to be ruled by the signing statements of a never-elected, never-legitimate war criminal.

But maybe that's in Part II.

Please look for what else they're trying to foist on our kids with their "not a right wing agenda movie."

--

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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:45 AM
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22. The Disney corporate image must be changed
Disney gets away with keeping up a positive corporate image while causing polarization and an end to civil debate in this country and promoting fascism. Sound crazy? Its true though. ABC Launched Limbaugh and Hannity whose shows are nothing but fascist polarizing lies and hatred. ABC even had Limbaugh create a fictitious "EIB Network" to confuse listeners about ABC's involvement. ABC continues to run talk show host Mark Levin who advocates taking away the power of courts to protect our rights.

ABC News ran every lie about Clinton and never questioned his accusers. They chose Brit Hume as White House correspondent during the Clinton years. ABC also runs editorial shows featuring John Stossels that are packed with lies. ABC News continues to run a close second to Faux News for running right wing propaganda as news.

Now ABC made a movie of lies about Clinton & 9/11. Disney's image is all Mickey Mouse and theme parks. Disney should be known as the fascist enablers that they have been and are. The partisan hatred Disney is producing is destroying America.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 12:27 PM
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29. I say, along with the ABC boycott, we should also
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 12:28 PM by Texas Explorer
boycott all Disney properties including Disneyland and DisneyWorld theme parks and all associated entities including Disney stores.

Edited to add: All Disney movies, dvds, radio...everything with the Disney name on it.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 02:00 PM
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32. I agree... We all should be going after DISNEY!!!
BOYSCOTT DISNEY!!!
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:53 AM
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94. To voice outrage with Disney, please visit here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2058486&mesg_id=2058486

I've provided ABC/Disney contact information (ABC is owned by Disney) and the link to a form to e-mail them directl. There's also a phone and fax number for Disney shareholder information. Perhaps if enough people flood the shareholder offices with calls that their stock is going to go down substantially because we won't give them another dime, they may reconsider this choice.

Disney includes: Disney films and cartoons on video, Buena Vista, the Disney Channel and related products, Baby Einstein, etc.

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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:57 AM
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100. Disney's corporate image is a goofy Mickey Mouse,
and the Republican's corporate image is a goofy chimp.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 01:47 PM
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31. "we are also being accused of being a left wing movie"
King's X! As long as the reichbots maintain such insane facades, they attempt to create the nonsense illusion of "balance." This ridiculous excuse has been deployed since time began. I've never yet known of a bigot or zealot who didn't claim criticisms from their own allies. Every time a media talking head says such a thing, I know for sure they're deliberately fabricating the pretense of 'balance.'

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 02:08 PM
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33. ABC can air whatever the hell they want, but to put a slanted
production on so close to the election is nothing more than shilling for the Republican party. I've emailed and told them I will never watch ABC again if they air it. Do we have a list of sponsors? Maybe it would be beneficial to email them, too.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 02:11 PM
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34. I don't think that they won't air it, but maybe we could force them
to do the fiction disclaimer, you know events and characters aren't intended to depict real events and characters, etc., etc.. Force them to call it fiction in other words.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 03:31 PM
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35. I've noticed they've stopped saying it was based on the 9/11
Commission Report and are now calling it a "movie event" in the TV ads.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 03:43 PM
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36. I can only wonder how Disney megashareholder STEVE JOBS feels...
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 03:44 PM by johnfunk
... about this CROCK-U-DRAMA being broadcast on a network of which which he owns a big chunk.

Perhaps someone shou8ld bring it to his attention...

ON EDIT: Fix html tag
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 05:50 PM
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43. crock-u-drama :)
May please use that?
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:00 PM
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52. Feel free -- it'll properly frame ABC's CROCK-U-DRAMA
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 03:47 PM
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37. Why not yank the movie itself?
This is a step in the right direction, but ABC should yank this piece of Freeper propaganda, or at least air a film that goes after Bush, like F 9/11 or Everybody's Gotta Learn Somtime.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:22 PM
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81. That is it!
I don't like the idea of trying to force them to pull it - smacks of censorship.

Better to force them to air F9/11 as balance!!!!!
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PresidentWar Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 03:48 PM
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38. Sounds to me like they got backed into a corner.
The went from being nailed on trying to pass off this tragedy onto Clinton, to "Hey this is an indictment on BOTH administrations!"

See that? Very smooth, no? They want to make sure that 9/11 gets smeared on Clinton EQUALLY as Bush. And they think that most of us are too stupid to notice. Well as soon as they saw that's not the case, they yank the discussion thread.

PERFECT.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 04:10 PM
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39. "objective", my ass
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 05:36 PM
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40. ABC Docudrama
Does any have a link to ABC?
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dollydew Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 05:38 PM
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41. Edited for Typo
OOps: does any one have a link to ABC?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 07:15 PM
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44. Scholastic magazine is using it as a lesson plan!? That's disgusting.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:37 PM
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58. Contact info? Let's nail these bastards too. n/t
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 07:50 PM
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45. Doesn't this sound like the most boring as hell "docu-drama" ever?
There have been two major 9/11 movies now, and pretty much anyone who would watch this move was AROUND and knows what happened. Why would anyone tune into this in the first place?

Why does there need to be any sort of "dramatized reenactment" when it JUST HAPPENED FIVE YEARS AGO AND THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ARE STILL ELECTED?!

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:48 AM
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68. Why? Because, obviously, we have forgotten why we are in Iraq.
Uh. Could someone please remind me about the 9/11 - Iraq connection?

(chirp. chirp.)
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:00 PM
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47. Tell ABC to take their propaganda and shove it up their....
right-wing ass!!!

Liar, Liar with their spin on fire!!!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:10 PM
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48. LOL that's the spirit
:evilgrin: :toast: I DARE you to call and say that to them(or you know,lol something to that effect)'Cuz I sure as hell am,first thing tommorow morning.Here's the number, sombody posted it in this thread earlier (818) 460-7477

:kick:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:08 PM
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53. I sent them a "semi-polite" email....
I tried to be as rational as possible...I TRIED real hard.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:21 PM
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50. There's a reason ABC is known as the CIA channel.
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 08:22 PM by kerstin
This was also the network that took it upon themselves to squelch any speculation about the JFK assassination, reinforcing in the most hamhanded fashioned the "lone gunman" fable. It was the most unprofessional, condescending bit of propaganda I'd ever seen on American television (and that's saying something).
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:02 PM
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55. Wm Casey's ownership of CapCities stock and the whole Disney thing
Edited on Mon Sep-04-06 11:07 PM by EVDebs
is indeed too much of the Puzzle Palace connection for this one to endure. Time to kick Tinkerbell's arse.

Disney ownership of ABC
http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/narrative_networktv_ownership.asp?cat=5&media=4

Boycott Disneyworld, Disneyland, Disney Europe, etc. etc. (or until they pull the plug on this
or until they show the CBS Reagan movie that got pulled). M$M will feel it in their bottom line if you get my drift.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:30 PM
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57. (Former CIA Director) Casey was also the one who said
that there was no one in the media of any significance that wasn't "owned" by the CIA, a quote I'd run across more than a few times.


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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 09:23 PM
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54. ABC sucks. I watched ABC news just now. Charles Gibson interviewed a
right wing man (instead of the film's director, or, who knows, maybe even a film critic...) to talk about Robert greenwald's new film. Their conclusion; "Greenwald's film like all other left wing films, including fahrenheit 9-11, are poltical propaganda, and of course, the timing of the film, is because of the coming election."
absolute dismissal, without any discussion of what the film says. I was so furious, I noted the station to never watch again. It was ABC.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:41 AM
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60. Typical. Corporate. Pussies.
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Garrett Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:46 AM
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61. Regarding sponsors
The show is being advertised as "commercial-free." I don't know if that means there are no sponsors or just that the ads will be at the beginning and end.

It might be that they couldn't get any sponsors! I've written to ABC to express my disappointment at their need to inject partisanship into such a sensitive topic.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:55 AM
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64. There should be a disclaimer at the beginning and before they
return from commercials that states that this is a political advertisement, or say that it was written by partisan Republican and is written to reflect the history as the Republican leadership wants it to be written.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:57 AM
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69. Nobody's going to watch it anyway
Notice how well that 911 movie did? We all lived through it; I have no interest in seeing someone else's version of it, and it looks like I belong to a very large group.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:33 AM
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72. Can someone please give me a link to a mainstream press article on this?
Thank you.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:12 PM
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78. I'd be curious to know if there is one yet. If ever.
I don't have just a whole hell of a lot of confidence in the MSM, can ya' tell?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:49 AM
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75. Found this off of a link in this thread....? It is a good responce.
Maybe they can do a documentary about how the first WTC bombers were aprehended and jailed?

Or about the Oklahoma City bombers were aprehended, jailed, and executed?

Or how the Unabomer was captured and jailed for life.

Or how the Millenium Plot was foiled.

Or how millions of Bosnians can now vote and are free to persue their “dreams”.

Naw, let’s not do that.

-GSD

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/04/path-blog-yanked/
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:16 PM
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79. Yup, it's all Clinton's fault...
President wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws

July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess. (1.6 MB AIFF or WAV sound)sound icon

"We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference.

But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted that the Senate would rush to action before they recess this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options, he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days would be tough.

One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives "a phony issue."
Taggants value disputed

Clinton said he knew there was Republican opposition to his proposal on explosive taggants, but it should not be allowed to block the provisions on which both parties agree.

"What I urge them to do is to be explicit about their disagreement, but don't let it overcome the areas of agreement," he said.

The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The president stressed it's important to get the legislation out before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.

"The most important thing right now is that they get the best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much help as they can," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:00 PM
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85. Thanks for posting that
Remember the Republican spin

Stolen election - didn't happen, and if it did happen, it was because God assisted the
voting machinery into selecting a true leader of faith

9/11 - the work of terrorists. Terrrorists that we didn't pay attention to on Sept 10th, but by Sept 12th, we knew who they were, and what they'd done and had their smouldering passports in our paws as proof

Katrina - didn't happen, but if it did happen, Bush was nowhere near N'Orleans. It must have been Bill Clinton's fault

The Coming Depression - can't possibly happen, and when it does, well, we rich .1% were smart enough to get ours when the going was good, too bad you dumb folks lost everything
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:36 PM
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82. the mouse was bailed out by the saudi`s
several years ago-enough said about that
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:47 PM
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83. Clinton had standing order to kill Bin Laden, period.
End of story. ABC is dead to me.
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rnisson Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:59 PM
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84. Petition to stop ABC link
Here is a link to a petition regarding the 9/11 film on ABC

http://thinkprogress.org/tellabc

everyone sign/send it
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. I read about one of the scenes from thinkprogress regarding
killing Bin Laden. That's the freeper "Bin Laden was handed to Clinton on a silver platter" scene. ABC should be ashamed of themselves for airing this. If the other scenes are anything like this one, then they are all a bunch of lies.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:03 PM
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103. They have to brainwash
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 06:06 PM by libhill
the idiot American public into thinking that Bin Laden was Clinton's boy. Never mind that it's the Rethugs who roll him out prior to every election, to scare us all into voting for Shrub. I'm still waiting for the newest tape, which I am sure will be forthcoming with an election looming. "Golly jeez Sally Sue, we'd best vote fer them Republican fellers, cuz the Demmycrats cain't keep us safe from them A-rabs"...I just plumb knows that W. gonna catch that thar O'sammy Been Lowdown feller sooner or later...
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:39 PM
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87. Not good enough. Just two words...
Reagan miniseries.


And with that, anyone wanna refresh my memory about this so-called Librurrrrrrruuuuuul media?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:23 AM
Response to Reply #87
97. Thank you...
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 04:26 AM by bliss_eternal
I'm glad that some haven't forgotten the bruhaha of that. The right had the biggest fit. As if some of us don't already know EXACTLY who and what raygun and co. were about.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:09 PM
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90. We the people of DU have change the course of these things in the past
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON ABC
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