The Clinton Blaming for North Korea has begun

[brettdale]

Condeliar Rice , CNN International, Faux, Reutuers, seem to be blaming Clinton, who is next?

[Erika]

1. Clinton kept them contained

What has W done?

[magellan]

5. W let Kim Jong-il avoid weapons inspections

Originally posted by BattyDem:

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Wednesday, 3 April, 2002

The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.

Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.

In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1908571.stm

[DRoseDARs]

Poked them with a stick. n/t

[Trajan]

2. It aint Clinton .....

It's the GOP ... The Koreas were sticking 'generally' to the Sunshine Policy ....

Colin Powell tried to maintain the policy after Clinton left, because it was a WISE policy ....

That's all Dubya had to know: He canned it in short order ...

It is GOP POLICY that is at fault .... and nothing more ....

Well, Kim is a neurotic asshole ..... but that is beside the point : the statecraft was worth it to all parties ....

At what time has this government ever talked peace ? .... Is there NO PLACE on earth that could use the wise counsel of a benevolent, clear-headed, liberal, democratic state to help STOP fighting wars and killing innocents ?? ...

There has not been a SINGLE EFFORT to bring peace anywhere in the world .... and that is pitiful ....

[fishnfla]

3. Tony Snow started blaming them this past July

they must've known they had screwed up, only took them 6 years....

[driver8]

6. I would like to put my foot right up Tony Snow's ass.

I never thought anyone could make me miss Snotty Scotty.

[driver8]

4. Bush has been in office 6 years and they are still blaming Clinton??

When does it become "their" fault?

I guess 2008 would be about right, wouldn't it?

[rodeodance]

7. cbs (I think)-- showed some clips of Albright meeting and other Clinton

officials meeting with top leaders of NK to try to resolve this issue. It was a good evening news report--they also showed McCain blaming Clinton.

[rodeodance]

8. here is some earlier DU discussion:

Tue Oct-10-06 05:08 PM
Original message
Kerry Throws-McCain's-"It's ALL Clinton's Fault -Back In McCain's Face
John McCain is taking another dose of stupid pills to please the wingers again. You guessed it: it’s all Clinton’ fault that North Korea went nuclear this decade.

John Kerry threw it back at McCain today:

"He must be trying to burnish his credentials for the nomination process," said Kerry, who labeled McCain's comments "flat politics and incorrect."

"The truth is the Clinton administration knew full well they didn't have a perfect agreement. But at least they were talking. At least we had inspectors going in and we knew where the (nuclear fuel) rods were. This way, we don't know where the rods are, the rods are gone. There are no inspectors. Ask any American which way is better," Kerry said.

more at:
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/008964.php

Tue Oct-10-06 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
8. Er, McCain...? : BBC News (2002): US grants North Korea nuclear funds
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Jeez this man loves his boy George.



Apologies to Boy George.


Tue Oct-10-06 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
6. * March 8 2001
President George W Bush has ruled out an early resumption of talks with North Korea, saying US policy towards the region would have to be reviewed first.


17. McCain conveniently forgot the chimp's press conference in July
where he looked like a completely clueless idiot which he is:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=277


Tue Oct-10-06 12:37 PM
Response to Original message
5. How does this explain the US providing $$ for nukes to NK in 2002?
2002: US Gave N. Korea $95m for Nukes

Wednesday, 3 April, 2002, 12:06 GMT 13:06 UK
US grants N Korea nuclear funds


Pyongyang threatened to pull out of the nuclear deal

The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.

In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.

President Bush argued that the decision was "vital to the national security interests of the United States".

more at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
via:
http://www.rawstory.com /


Tue Oct-10-06 12:33 PM
Original message
McCain criticizes former President Clinton on N. Korea

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1010KoreaMcCain1...

McCain criticizes former President Clinton on N. Korea

By SARAH KARUSH
Associated Press Writer
Oct. 10, 2006 10:13 AM


SOUTHFIELD, Mich. - Republican Sen. John McCain on Tuesday accused former President Clinton, the husband of his potential 2008 White House rival, of failing to act in the 1990s to stop North Korea from developing nuclear weapons.

"I would remind Senator (Hillary) Clinton and other Democrats critical of the Bush administration's policies that the framework agreement her husband's administration negotiated was a failure," McCain said at a news conference after a campaign appearance for Republican Senate candidate Mike Bouchard.

........

Democrats have argued President Clinton presented his successor with a framework for dealing with North Korea and the Republican fumbled the opportunity. In October 2000, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright made a groundbreaking visit to Pyongyang to explore a missile deal with Chairman Kim Jong Il. There was even talk of a visit by President Clinton.

The initial breakthrough occurred in October 1994 when U.S. negotiators persuaded North Korea to freeze its nuclear program, with onsite monitoring by U.N. inspectors. In exchange, the United States, with input from South Korea and Japan, promised major steps to ease North Korea's acute energy shortage.

These commitments were inherited by the Bush administration, which made clear almost from the outset that it believed the Clinton policy ignored key elements of North Korea's activities, especially the threat posed by the hundreds of thousands of troops on permanent duty along the Demilitarized Zone with South Korea.

.........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2554970&mesg_id=2554979

[Kagemusha]

9. Clinton was being pre-blamed for over a decade

It didn't start. Reality simply caught up.

[rodeodance]

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[Peace Patriot]

11. Christ, they've been in power for SIX YEARS, and not just in power, in

TOTAL power, with control of every branch of government, with policies of massive secrecy, massive spying and unbridled executive action, as well as control of our elections with TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote tabulation, owned and controlled by Bushite corporations.

But the mystery isn't Bushite whining. We know who they are. The mystery is the news organizations' complicity in these unbelievable great whopping lies. Why don't these so-called journalists just LAUGH when crap like this pollutes the newstream? LAUGH them out of office! Do Stewart/Colbert skits instead of the "news" when these absurdities are thrown at them!

I just don't understand how anyone with common sense--even if they are in the dread clutches of the Corporate Rulers--can put up with this crap any more.