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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:20 AM
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Chris Shays To Kennedy: You're A Killer - "Hastert didn't kill anybody."
CT-04: Chris Shays To Kennedy: You're A Killer
By Greg Sargent

GOP Rep Chris Shays is calling Dem Senator Ted Kennedy a killer. Today's Hartford Courant reports that Shays lashed out at Kennedy while defending Speaker Dennis Hastert's handling of Foleygate. Kennedy campaigned for Shays' Dem foe Diane Farrell last week. Shays, referring to Kennedy's 1969 car accident, said: "I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day. Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody." (Emphasis added.) Farrell's response: "This is symptomatic of Chris losing his composure in a tight race."

http://tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/oct/11/ct_04_shays_to_kennedy_youre_a_killer
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-foley1011.artoct11,0,4392221.story?coll=hc-headlines-home
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:21 AM
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1. "This is symptomatic of Chris losing his composure in a tight race."
Gee, y'think?
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:24 AM
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5. If this is the best they can do
To smear a candidate with a forty year old scandal then they must be pretty hard up for smear material.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 12:00 PM
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16. And, of course, if we bring up FACTS that happened with Bush
in the 80s, we're "clutching at straws" ...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:45 PM
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24. To smear A SPPORTER of his opponent
makes it even more like he's losing it. Can this work in Connecticut?

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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:39 AM
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27. and how many people have the Republican party killed.
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 11:48 AM by liberaldemocrat7
Thousands of Vioxx and other medication users when the Bush FDA looked the other way.

The people who died in the Ford Explorer Firestone tires incidents because the Republican congress looked the other way and didn't regulate automobiles enough.

The 14 astronauts who died under Republican NASA administrations because they cared more about lanuching those bombs instead of heedign engineer warnings.

The people who drowned in New Orleans because the Bush regime sat for 5 days and did nothing to help them.

The people who died in the Sago Mine and in other mines while the Bush mining administration looked the other way.

The seniors and disabled people who will die or have died due to the Medicare part D coverage gap when they could not get medication ebcause they couldn't afford it on their own.

The Hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi people who died because of the invasion now computed by Johns Hopkins University.


and laura Bush, if she hadn't killed her then boycfriend she might not have married Chimpy McFuhrer Manson

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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:23 AM
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2. Couldn't believe it when I read that this morning.
I think that Diane's response was perfect.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:23 AM
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3. Maybe we need to focus on Shay's background.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:23 AM
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4. Stupidity by Shays. Great response by Farrell.
Probably the dumbest thing Shays has ever said, and it will cost him.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:24 AM
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6. Another vacation from a logical argument.
Shays is shifting the attention away from Hastert taking responsibility for his actions (or inactions) and toward a new target with the addition of an ad hominum attack on Kennedy and invalidation of Kennedy's right to criticize another's deeds.

Why no one in journalism does a Joe Friday of "Just the facts, ma'am" when this nonsense happens is beyond my understanding of the purpose of getting to the truth.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:27 AM
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8. On Top Of That. . .
. . .if they are critical of Ted, then they shouldn't suggest that Hastert's inaction is better than Kennedy's inaction. Inaction is inaction. And since they've been running for 30 years on the platform that they're more moral, shouldn't the standard be higher, not equal?

Shays is a buffoon.
The Professor
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:27 AM
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7. Shays' Capt. Queeg moment has officially sunk his ship.
:thumbsdown:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:27 AM
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9. That's ugly.
Chris Shays has always seemed like a guy pretending to be a gentle, level-headed representative of his generation. But the ugliness shows through. He should pay for this nasty outburst.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:28 AM
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10. JeeeeZUS!
We need ADULTS in Congress. They have to go back 37 years, LOL. Anyway, under Shay's definition, Laura Bush is a killer, too, but WTF has any of this got to do with the current sex scandal and the fact that the Speaker of the House covered for a sexual harrassing pederast for several years?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:30 AM
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11. "Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody."
As long as that fat load doesn't fall on anybody...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:30 AM
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12. So, let me get this straight
An accidental death almost 40 years ago gives Shays the ability to excuse and ignore the ongoing molestation of someone else's teenage children?

Then again, the GOP's been covering up Laura Bush's misadventure behind the wheel of her car for the past how many years?

Julie
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:32 AM
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13. Risky business, this....
However one may feel about what happened at that Kennedy accident nearly 40 years ago, the legal judgment about it was make long ago. And that judgment did NOT accuse Kennedy of murder/manslaughter. So, this clown Shays making a statement like this is committing slander.

Shays needs to spend less time with his Freeper supporters and their nutty obsessions.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:35 AM
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14. We all know that sexual abuse perpetuates itself
So while Foley didn't ACTUALLY kill someone, who is to say that down the road one of the kids he molested isn't going to molest someone who kills someone.
I'm sorry.
Now, let's talk about Laura Bush killing an innocent kid that dumped her pyscho ass.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:46 AM
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15. Teddy Kennedy is no killer. Christopher Shays is a vicious prick.
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 11:55 AM by shance
Teddy Kennedy is a humanitarian and a compassionate person. He is no killer.

By the way, for the record, Ted Kennedy was in an accident.

A questionable accident by many accounts. Many say to this day that it was a set up for Teddy by Intelligence ops. After looking at what has happened to the Kennedys and how they have continuously been targetted and murdered, it would not surprise me in the least. In fact, I think it would probably be the more sensible answer after seeing how the family has been assaulted for decades by the Republican hatemongers.

What kind of sick, twisted human being is Christopher Shays?

Mr. Shays is apparently a sick individual who hates much easier than he has the capacity for kindness and compassion.

There are many like him in the Republican ranks.

What an amazingly heartless, dishonest comment.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:41 PM
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21. without going into what you say about the events of Chappequidick
it has no relevance 36 years later on what happened with Foley. Shay's is just trying to protect his leader rather than caring about what happened with kids.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:02 AM
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26. However, Mr. Shays behavior should be what is important here.
It's not just "politics" - its seems to be almost a genetic defect of character that Republicans often reveal when they act in this manner. Perhaps its just a lack of good parenting.

Many of the Republicans, or those with the rich, white racist men syndrome continuously expose an infantile inability to tolerate accountability. It is in epidemic proportions in all areas of "leadership" , and people like to overlook the insideousness and malignancy in such behavior.

It is behavior like Mr. Shays that has over the years fully eroded our governmental process.

Orrin Hatch, the queen from Utah, pulled the same Chappaquidick self righteous indignation during the Anita Hill trial. He got what he wanted. He shut down Mr. Kennedy - who has been shut down from an incident I believe he doesnt even remember what happened, many say because he had been drugged. Who knows?

These amazingly cheap shot tactic is designed solely to distract from whatever truth or facts are being revealed. It is the cheapest of diversion tactics. It shuts down opposition through unleashing shame and fear of accusations being thrown for no reason. It's using insane misleading accusations that shock and awe everyone into silence.

Irrational, Ann Coulter like behavior is a stage five cancer that has metasticized throughout the halls of Congress that many people rationalize prefer looking at it as being a blister. I think it is much more corrosive than a blister.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 12:58 PM
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17. It's comforting to know that the high values placed on the ideas of
professionalism, class, rational debate and sticking to relevalt topics are still with the Republican party today. :sarcasm:
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oldboy101 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:23 PM
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18. Chris Shays was one of the few Republicans I respected.
Now I learn that he is every bit as evil as the rest of the lot. As they say, one rotten apple in the apple barrel will eventually spoil them all.

There is no excuse for his dredging up this old business. He sees his sorry ass is likely to lose this election, and by his imprudent comment he has just assured the very thing he feared.

We are taking back the Congress, both House and Senate! Oh Happy Day!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:31 PM
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19. So un other words, Shays approves of predatory behavior with the underage?
That makes it acceptable?

Hmm. Ya learn something new every day from the Grand Old Perverts.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:38 PM
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20. Then is Laura Bush "a killer," too?
Is everyone who has ever been in something that happens in a split second and before they can realize what is happening like an auto accident "a killer," also?

But a guy who deliberately and calculatingly shields a sexual predator for years is aces?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:42 PM
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22. that is an excellent follow up question for Mr. Shays
Does this mean, Mr. Shays, that Laura Bush is also a killer?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:42 PM
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23. and Farrell is not Kennedy--Chris you are way out of line
NOBODY but partisan nutjobs think a car accident is the same as intentionally killing someone. Otherwise Pickles would be getting a lot more scrutiny than she is.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 01:48 PM
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25. The stink of desperation.
NOBODY risks their own life and limb driving a car off a bridge into a river hoping to kill somebody else. It's preposterous.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:56 AM
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28. Well thank you Mr. Shays
you pathetic desparate ASS - you just moved me to contribute to Diane Farrell's campaign. I am SO pissed about this....
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:58 AM
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29. The last refuge of a scoundrel?
Blame Kennedy or Clinton.

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:00 PM
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30. Kennedy's past makes it ok to cover up for sexual predators?
Wow the repbulican ship truely is sinking.

It's a glorious thing to watch.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:02 PM
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31. Desperation is an odd thing to observe...esp when the Pubs are
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:03 PM
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32. See "Laura Bush" (was "Laura Welch") for another "murderous" Republican
"incident" -- personally, I think that one is JUST AS SUSPICIOUS (if not more so) than the drunken Chapaquidick story. Then again, I have a brain and use it, unlike Chris Shays.

:eyes:
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