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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:53 PM
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GWB uses the Goering playbook
I just found this qoute from Hermann Goering:

"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

This quote really upset me because it is exactly what Bush/Cheney/Rove have been doing since 9/11. It is how they have led an illegal war. It is how they have manipulated the masses and conned the people. It is how they have won elections (at least one way, theft probably being another).

God help us all.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:54 PM
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1. Prescott bush financed Hitler's rise to power!
'nuff said!
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:55 PM
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2. And people say comparing Bush to Hitler is "inaccurate"...
...simply because he hasn't killed the same number of people.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:55 PM
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3. Yes...they have been using the Nazi playbook and everyone
is afraid of calling them on it....We have to stop them in November...

Welcome to DU!:hi:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:58 PM
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4. Thanks MadMaddie!
I like it very much here!:toast:
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 08:58 PM
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5. That quote was posted here and elsewhere
far and wide prior to "Shock and Awe"(copyright, trademark *admin) and it seems to be wearing thin on a populace who just wants cheap gas and play stations. It was bound to happen sooner or latter, too bad not sooner.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:00 PM
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6. Watch this video and learn how to combat the Bush lies...
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:22 PM
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8. Wow!
That was excellent. Thanks you so much for the link, whistle.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:01 PM
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7. My dad, who was a POW for a few days near Kasserine Pass, Tunesia ..
Edited on Wed Oct-11-06 09:06 PM by DemoTex
My dad, who was a POW for a few days near the Kasserine Pass, Tunesia, named his little war dog (that he carried from Sicily, through Italy, and into Germany) Hermann Goering. Because both were sons-of-bitches.

In 1959 we got our first family dog, a road-side mutt. Dad named him Hermann. It was a few years before I understood all that.

Sweet Hermann died while I was in Viet Nam. Damn, I love my dogs!


Sweet Nick-Nick
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:25 PM
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9. Nothing like a dog story
to make the heart weep.

Thanks to you and your Dad for your service.
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:26 PM
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10. Sorry for the long reply but this was too good
to pass up - Any of it sound familiar?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

Some time has been spent analyzing the means by which propaganda messages are transmitted. That work is important but it is clear that information dissemination strategies only become propaganda strategies when coupled with propagandistic messages. Identifying these messages is a necessary prerequisite to study the methods by which those messages are spread. That is why it is essential to have some knowledge of the following techniques for generating propaganda:

Appeal to authority: Appeals to authority cite prominent figures to support a position idea, argument, or course of action.
Appeal to fear: Appeals to fear seek to build support by instilling fear in the general population, for example, Joseph Goebbels exploited Theodore Kaufman's Germany Must Perish! to claim that the Allies sought the extermination of the German people.
Appeal to Prejudice: Using loaded or emotive terms to attach value or moral goodness to believing the proposition. "A reasonable person would agree that our income tax is too low."
Argumentum ad nauseam: Uses tireless repetition. An idea once repeated enough times, is taken as the truth. Works best when media sources are limited and controlled by the propagator.
Bandwagon: Bandwagon and inevitable-victory appeals attempt to persuade the target audience to take the course of action that "everyone else is taking."
Inevitable victory: invites those not already on the bandwagon to join those already on the road to certain victory. Those already or at least partially on the bandwagon are reassured that staying aboard is their best course of action.
Join the crowd: This technique reinforces people's natural desire to be on the winning side. This technique is used to convince the audience that a program is an expression of an irresistible mass movement and that it is in their best interest to join.
Black-and-White fallacy: Presenting only two choices, with the product or idea being propagated as the better choice. (Eg. You can have an unhealthy, unreliable engine, or you can use Brand X oil)
Common man: The "plain folks" or "common man" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the target audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothe their message in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person.
Demonizing the “enemy”: Projecting a person or idea as the "enemy" through suggestion or false accusations.
Direct order: This technique hopes to simplify the decision making process. The propagandist uses images and words to tell the audience exactly what actions to take, eliminating any other possible choices. Authority figures can be used to give the order, overlapping it with the Appeal to authority technique, but not necessarily. The Uncle Sam "I want you" image is an example of this technique.
Euphoria: The use of an event that generates euphoria or happiness in lieu of spreading more sadness, or using a good event to try to cover up another. Or creating a celebrateable event in the hopes of boosting morale. Euphoria can be used to take one's mind from a worse feeling. i.e. a holiday or parade.
Falsifying information: The creation or deletion of information from public records, in the purpose of making a false record of an event or the actions of a person during a court session, or possibly a battle, etc. Pseudoscience is often used in this way.
Flag-waving: An attempt to justify an action on the grounds that doing so will make one more patriotic, or in some way benefit a group, country, or idea. The feeling of patriotism which this technique attempts to inspire may diminish or entirely omit one's capability for rational examination of the matter in question.
Glittering generalities: Glittering generalities are emotionally appealing words applied to a product or idea, but which present no concrete argument or analysis. A famous example is the campaign slogan "Ford has a better idea!"
Intentional vagueness: Generalities are deliberately vague so that the audience may supply its own interpretations. The intention is to move the audience by use of undefined phrases, without analyzing their validity or attempting to determine their reasonableness or application. The intent is to cause people to draw their own interpretations rather than simply being presented with an explicit idea. In trying to "figure out" the propaganda, the audience foregoes judgment of the ideas presented. Their validity, reasonableness and application is not considered.
Saddam Hussein pictured as a decisive war leader in an Iraqi propaganda picture.
Obtain disapproval or Reductio ad Hitlerum: This technique is used to persuade a target audience to disapprove of an action or idea by suggesting that the idea is popular with groups hated, feared, or held in contempt by the target audience. Thus if a group which supports a certain policy is led to believe that undesirable, subversive, or contemptible people support the same policy, then the members of the group may decide to change their original position.
Oversimplification: Favorable generalities are used to provide simple answers to complex social, political, economic, or military problems.
Quotes out of Context: Selective editing of quotes which can change meanings. Political "documentaries" often make use of this technique.
Rationalization: Individuals or groups may use favorable generalities to rationalize questionable acts or beliefs. Vague and pleasant phrases are often used to justify such actions or beliefs.
Red herring: Presenting data that is irrelevant, then claiming that it validates your argument.
Scapegoating: Assigning blame to an individual or group that isn't really responsible, thus alleviating feelings of guilt from responsible parties and/or distracting attention from the need to fix the problem for which blame is being assigned.
Slogans: A slogan is a brief, striking phrase that may include labeling and stereotyping. Although slogans may be enlisted to support reasoned ideas, in practice they tend to act only as emotional appeals. For example, "blood for oil" or "cut and run" are slogans used by those who view the USA's current situation in Iraq with disfavor. Similarly, the names of the military campaigns, such as "enduring freedom" or "just cause", may also be regarded to be slogans, devised to prevent free thought on the issues.
Stereotyping or Name Calling or Labeling: This technique attempts to arouse prejudices in an audience by labeling the object of the propaganda campaign as something the target audience fears, hates, loathes, or finds undesirable. For instance, reporting on a foreign country or social group may focus on the stereotypical traits that the reader expects, even though they are far from being representative of the whole country or group; such reporting often focuses on the anecdotal.
Testimonial: Testimonials are quotations, in or out of context, especially cited to support or reject a given policy, action, program, or personality. The reputation or the role (expert, respected public figure, etc.) of the individual giving the statement is exploited. The testimonial places the official sanction of a respected person or authority on a propaganda message. This is done in an effort to cause the target audience to identify itself with the authority or to accept the authority's opinions and beliefs as its own. See also, damaging quotation
Soldier loads a "leaflet bomb" during the Korean war.Transfer: Also known as Association, this is a technique of projecting positive or negative qualities (praise or blame) of a person, entity, object, or value (an individual, group, organization, nation, patriotism, etc.) to another to make the second more acceptable or to discredit it. It evokes an emotional response, which stimulates the target to identify with recognized authorities. Often highly visual, this technique often utilizes symbols (for example, the Swastika used in Nazi Germany, originally a symbol for health and prosperity) superimposed over other visual images. An example of common use of this technique in America is for the President to be filmed or photographed in front of the American flag.
Unstated assumption: This technique is used when the propaganda concept that the propagandist intends to transmit would seem less credible if explicitly stated. The concept is instead repeatedly assumed or implied.
Virtue words: These are words in the value system of the target audience which tend to produce a positive image when attached to a person or issue. Peace, happiness, security, wise leadership, freedom, etc. are virtue words. See ""Transfer"".

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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:54 PM
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12. Too much of it sounds familiar.
:grr:
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:52 PM
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14. Glittering generalities ....
"Shock and awe" and any number of military campaign slogans sure fit, lingiuistically dazzling a populace while hiding the true meaning of actions.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:36 PM
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11. I realized that a long time ago. Look at the Bush Family Ties with Hitler
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 09:55 PM
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13. Goering's testimony at Nuremberg Trial might be of interest....
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