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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 10:58 PM
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So, KKKarl calls fundies "The Nuts"
This will get interesting.

Exclusive: Book says Bush just using Christians

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15228489/

More than five years after President Bush created the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, the former second-in-command of that office is going public with an insider’s tell-all account that portrays an office used almost exclusively to win political points with both evangelical Christians and traditionally Democratic minorities.

Entitled “Tempting Faith,” the book is not scheduled for release until Oct. 16, but MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” has obtained a copy.

He says some of the nation’s most prominent evangelical leaders were known in the office of presidential political strategist Karl Rove as “the nuts.”

More seriously, Kuo alleges that then-White House political affairs director Ken Mehlman knowingly participated in a scheme to use the office, and taxpayer funds, to mount ostensibly “nonpartisan” events that were, in reality, designed with the intent of mobilizing religious voters in 20 targeted races.



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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:02 PM
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1. Tucker Carlson was saying that the other day.
This is certainly a new meme.

I wonder if they are worried about things like the "God is Green" Moyers show.

Like if the evangelicals decide that the environment is more important than supporting the Republicans - it might start a trend if people in general start agreeing with them - the fundies over the fascists.


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:06 PM
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2. Wonder what St.Peter will tell W and Rove
for deceiving the evangelicals?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:17 PM
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7. "Go away!"
What else?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:18 PM
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8. I don't think they will ever meet St.Peter
You know what I mean, Vern?

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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:09 PM
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3. What a Shock...NOT
Anyone who thought Bush, who is never seen in church, unlike Clinton who attends regularly deserves to be scorned for their naivette and foolishness for thinking this guy gave a rats patootie about them. They have been so used.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:11 PM
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4. The leaders of the Fundies think the same thing
that's why they get along so famously with KKKarl & the Repukes
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:14 PM
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5. If it gets legs, could be more damaging to Repugs than Foleygate. n/t
n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:25 AM
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18. Only if the fundies believe it's true.
I predict my fundie aunts and cousins will bury their heads deeper into the sand and refuse to believe it. One of my fundie relatives dismisses Snopes' debunkings as "just another opinion." Keeping my fingers crossed that my fundie relatives don't represent the norm here.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 09:59 AM
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20. Only if their preachers tell them it's true, and they won't. They're in on
the gravy train.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:44 PM
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27. All a true Christian has to do is look at their actions, and the truth
shall set them free. NOTHING bush* has done indicates he is a man of faith. Nothing. In fact, quite the opposite. The ralph reeds, the george bush*'s...all wolves in sheep's clothing.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:15 PM
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6. Actually this is really some good news.
In that previous Republican administration everyone knew they were being played, but I have always had doubts that George might actually be one of them.

The Republicans have for years used the evangelicals because well, they weren't real good at thinking for themselves. All one had to do was tell them that G-d told you so and they would blindly follow along. However, in recent years they have developed some power of their own and it is frighting to think that they might one day get on of the true believers elected.
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:37 PM
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9. This started coming out recently on NPR.
Someone being interviewed (can't remember who) was saying the Bushbots were targeting black churches for grants. The pastors then praised the Bushbots for the money given and basically told the congregation to vote for Repukes.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-11-06 11:43 PM
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10. Kuo is supposed to be on 60 Minutes this weekend
His book is put out by Simon and Schuster. Book website also has him listed as on Faux on Monday - didn't list which show.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:04 AM
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11. The Rethug Party needs to be investigated.
Did they fraudulently use Taxpayer's money in this way? If so, they need to be charged with Fraud!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:28 AM
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12. Ah, their true opinion of fundies!
Priceless. The truth hurts sometimes.:nopity:
Fundies, your "Christian" president, and his administration, think you're all nuts. But they enjoyed your votes.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:31 AM
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13. He use them, they used him
They all f*cked us. :shrug:
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:35 AM
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14. Does this mean we agree with him on this? n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:52 AM
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22. Oh no. I agree with Bush on something.
This completely upsets my apple cart!:P
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greeneyedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 01:54 AM
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15. do they understand that Georgie has the morals of a rabid weasel?
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oldboy101 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 05:11 AM
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16. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, so many others like them,
I can see where Karl considers them to be "nuts". I can only wonder at the low level of intelligence that permits so many people to follow religious leaders like these ones. I suppose it is the desire to have all questions answered with certainty, so that one does not have to bother to think for oneself. Poor bastards are so deluded and misled.

It is unconscionable that Bush, Rove and Co. would take advantage of this group stupidity to harvest their votes so that they can continue their reign of terror and greed.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:18 AM
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17. So this is why Bush called Blackwell a nut, which I happen to have a pic
of

Right click and choose Save Target As to download the PDF for printing:
http://bushcheated04.com/nut.pdf




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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 08:27 AM
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19. This is very believable
I've been saying this for years. I wonder why people can't see when they're being used. Remember to rate the story when you finish reading it.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:43 AM
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21. We've been calling them that for years but in public
The Bush* Cabal does it behind closed doors..They truly are nuts..
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:53 AM
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23. Actually they are ,but democrats can`t say that
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 12:08 PM
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26. Even though such 'fundies' constituted the majority of MLK's supporters?
Living long enough, one must see just about everything, I guess. The 50s and 60s saw a very wide gulf (schism) in the 'faith-based' community (i.e. 'fundies'), from the activists in the SCLC and Drinan side of the RCC, to the matchbook-cover pastors in the South who argued that the Bible supported the relegation of blacks to subordinate roles, dependent upon the 'good husbandry' of whites. Liberals went to sleep in this country in the 70s, and I have yet to see us wake up.

:cry:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:56 AM
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24. I am glad this info is out
Knowing how Bush talks when the mike isn't on, it was pretty obvious he was never very religious. I hope this changes some votes
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:59 AM
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25. "Tempting Faith" rated #25 on Amazon
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