Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Air passengers 'could be tagged'

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:13 AM
Original message
Air passengers 'could be tagged'
Air passengers 'could be tagged'
By Rebecca Morelle
BBC News

Electronically tagging passengers at airports could help the fight against terrorism, scientists have said.

The prototype technology is to be tested at an airport in Hungary, and could, if successful, become a reality "in two years". The work is being carried out at a new research centre, based at University College London, set up to find technological solutions to crime. Other projects include scanners for explosives and dirty bomb radiation. Dr Paul Brennan, an electrical engineer, is leading the tagging project, known as Optag. He said: "The basic idea is that airports could be fitted with a network of combined panoramic cameras and RFID (radio frequency ID) tag readers, which would monitor the movements of people around the various terminal buildings." The plan, he said, would be for each passenger to be issued with a tag at check-in. He said: "In our system, the location can be detected to an accuracy of 1m, and video and tag data could be merged to give a powerful surveillance capability."

Civil liberties

The tags do not store any data, but emit a signal containing a unique ID which could be cross-referenced with passenger identification information. In the future, added Dr Brennan, this could incorporate biometric data. The project still needs to overcome some hurdles, such as finding a way of ensuring the tags cannot be switched between passengers or removed without notification. The issue of infringement of civil liberties will also be key. But potentially, said Dr Brennan, the tags could aid security by allowing airports to track the movement patterns of passengers deemed to be suspicious and prevent them from entering restricted areas. It could also aid airports by helping evacuation in case of a fire, rapidly locating children, and finding passengers who are late to arrive at the gate.

The "proof of concept" of the system is about to be tested at Debrecen airport in Hungary. If successful, claimed Dr Brennan, it could be available elsewhere within two years.

more:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6044310.stm

Yet another reason to not fly if this comes to pass....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:15 AM
Response to Original message
1. "The tags do not store any data..."
Yeah...ummm..OK! Sign me up! :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Ahh..but they didn't say anything about the tracking system, did they?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:17 AM
Response to Original message
2. Teaching people to tolerate the intolerable all the way to the gas chamber
STOP ALLOWING ENSLAVEMENT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:19 AM
Response to Original message
3. Do we get a collar too? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #3
16. Invisible fencing...
http://www.invisiblefence.com/
Gee, it'll be so easy to round us all up!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:24 AM
Response to Original message
5. The next step, Implanted chips.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. That's what they want.
:scared:

One more reason not to fly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:25 AM
Response to Original message
6. Well if we put up invisible fence and issue neck collars to each
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 10:25 AM by HereSince1628
passenger you could actually "punish" them automatically for getting too close to secure areas.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. "Bad passenger! Bad!" nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:25 AM
Response to Original message
7. That's it, I'm turning off cookies
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:31 AM
Response to Original message
9. "The issue of infringement of civil liberties will also be key."
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 10:31 AM by sweetheart
What planet does this dorko journalist live on, of course civil liberties are the key! Why did it take so
long to mention that, it is absurdly invasive this technology, grossly unnecessary, turning airports in
to prisons when is the war on privacy gonna end, bbc journalist my friend. You're not wearing your collar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:40 AM
Response to Original message
11. Passengers could be tagged? Like this?


Who the h*ll are these Dr. Strangeloves who think up this stoopid shit anyway!

:mad: :mad:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
12. All I have to say to these guys is
YOU FIRST.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:48 AM
Response to Original message
13. Screw that... I'll walk there first...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:53 AM
Response to Original message
14. Jeez, why not give every passenger a hypo
full of GHB for the entire flight? The image of Minnie Pearl with the tag on her hat just crept into my brain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
15. If we don't give a damn about the rest of life
that we tag, categorize, and determine the fates of, why should this be a problem? They don't call the 21st century the "Information Age" for nothing. From the point of view of civilization, I don't know how this wouldn't make sense. Whether it's two years, ten years, or 20 years from now, it has to happen. Order must be kept.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. There's an enormous difference between 'order' and 'control'
Edited on Thu Oct-12-06 07:19 PM by Mind_your_head
They're not looking for 'order'. 'Control' is what "the powers that wannabe" are after. Everything that is happening 'speaks' to that end. Don't be naive. Don't give up the things that are rightfully yours.

Peace,
M_Y_H

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 07:24 PM
Response to Original message
18. The camel's nose inside the tent is ALWAYS "it's to locate the CHILDREN".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
19. Everyone who is willing to "be tagged" please kick this
:sarcasm:

oh go ahead you 'safety moms/dads'....it's for your kid's own good, right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC