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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:33 PM
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Dean: You Can't Trust Repubs With Your Money-Or Your Kids Or-To Defend You
October 12, 2006 at 21:53:43

Howard Dean: You can't trust Republicans with your money, Can't trust them with your kids, and you can't trust them to Defend the USA

by Howard Dean

http://www.opednews.com

Transcript of a stump speech by Howard Dean at a fundraiser for PA Democratic Congressional Candidates Patrick Murphy and Chris Carney in Doylestown, PA October 12, 2006.


You know what is so fantastic, we really are gonna have change this time, you know 26 days is a lifetime in politics.

You have a lot of work to do and have gotta keep working and keep working.

One of the things that I am so proud of,is that we have, I think, after the primary season and all we have 20 veterans running for congress, All but one are Democrats. Let me tell you something about the new direction of the Democratic party and the new direction of this country. All but one of the veterans running, that have been in the military of course, running are Democrats.

I wanna just say a couple of things. You know, its easy to come here and talk about all the things that Republicans have done wrong-- and I will spend some time doing it-- but I really want to go over our our agenda. What can you expect from us if we win? Now if we win, which we are expecting we will, we are expecting to pick up some seats right here and get Allyson (Congress person Allyson Schwartz) a lot of seniority, not just a little seniority.

There will be some things that we want to do right away. We will still have a Republican president, frankly, not the most competent president we've ever had. But there are some things that we'll be able to do, one of them is some easy basic stuff. We ought to have an increase in minimum wage in this country. The Republicans have opposed it. The reason its important is because we value work in the Democratic party. But if you ask people to work really hard, they ought to be able to support their family with what they make.

more at:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_howard_d_061012_you_can_t_trust_repu.htm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:35 PM
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1. That's the truth of it. Howard Dean speaks for me. Thank you
Dr. Dean.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:49 PM
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2. Go Howard...Time to donate again to the DNC.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-12-06 11:59 PM
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3. Great opening!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:08 AM
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4. BUT YOU HOWARD WILL LET THE REPUBLICANS COUNT OUR VOTE IN SECRET
Your silence about the SECRET VOTE COUNTING MACHINES, MAKE YOU NO BETTER THEN THE REPUBLICANS (PERIOD)

"Howard Dean: You can't trust Republicans with your money, Can't trust them with your kids, and you can't trust them to Defend the USA"

CAN YOU ( HOWARD ) BE TRUSTED? WHY THE SILENCE?
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:26 AM
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5. Wrong! Howard Dean on Electronic Voting Machines, Diebold and Otherwise…
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 12:37 AM by GreenTea
"These machines are a problem. This is not some Internet conspiracy; this is a serious problem that faces American democracy. These machines are not reliable and they shouldn't be used. We should not be using machines in this country where the results of the vote can't be verified after the fact. Period. Any machines."
– DNC Chair, Gov. Howard Dean, 4/19/06

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2724
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:37 AM
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6. Note to Dean THAT WASN'T ENOUGH! We are still voting on these machines
you can tell the internet people, till your blue in the face, We already know, Get on the BIG TUBE, and tell the American people, the goddamn facts, about the secret vote counting machines!!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 12:42 AM
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7. On the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown,"
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 12:43 AM by GreenTea
Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host. His guest was Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org from her living room. Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers. Be they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.

That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television, "you have all the different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in a single county. All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So, of course, if you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"

Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued. "What surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what you and I use. It's just a regular computer."

"So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a central tabulator?"

Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program called GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it into the central tabulator system. "This is the official program that the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:08 AM
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8. The fact remains, we will still be voting on secret vote counting machine
and they are still parading these machine across the country, and, not one Politician is willing to put an end to it, the Republicans, didn't protect the kids when they where in immediate danger from Foley, but the Dem and the Repug Politicians refuse to protect the kids future, when it comes to the SECRET VOTE COUNTING machines.

Why do you think that is? Do they enjoy the fact that in the future, the rich kids will have control over the working class kids vote count. Maybe they just want to keep the vote manipulation game up. I'm not sure, but why the silence?
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:23 AM
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9. What can Dean do when most Dem's won't even admit nor recognize
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 01:50 AM by GreenTea
there's even a problem?

Boycott the elections?

Only recently has Senator Dodd (who refused to accept there even was a problem) and Senator Boxer are just now supporting Dean's pleas and asking all 50 states for paper ballots, if people want to use them instead of the machines...and that's voluntary, and you know the Republican Secretary of States will not do it, they'll just laugh it off.

The Dem's have no congressional power to change anything.

What exactly is Dean suppose to do...The five corporate republican owned TV "news" media conglomerates certainly won't help get the message across.

But you believe it's ALL Deans fault...though he's been sounding the alarm for many month's?

I fail to see how you can put this huge problem all on Deans shoulders, when Dean has been outspoken on this very real problem and certain threat. Dean has to take up many, many issues and he's done well, I don't think he should be blamed.

Moreover, the word is getting out quicker than ever before, (with the help of many others) even with the obvious media & republican obstacles. (The republicans bullshit HAVA - pushed though in 2002).
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:38 AM
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10. I believe it is everyone who represents, the people to speak out,
be it our COWARDLY Dem or Repub Politicians or our COWARDLY media, anyone in the position to do something about the secret vote counting machines, is letting not only the American people down, but they are letting their VERY OWN FAMILIES down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2376790&mesg_id=2376989
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:01 AM
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11. How can anyone disagree with that, I certainly don't...But
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 02:12 AM by GreenTea
to place the blame solely on Dean for the Diebold machines this election is unfair, considering his many efforts he's made to expose the problems when everyone, Dem's & Repubs alike were calling him paranoid and crazy.

I think we should support our DNC leader, Dean's been outspoken and taking shit from republicans who despise him and Dean's held his own on many issues, (case in point, topic of this thread). When people like former DNC head Terry McAuliffe who said & did absoulely nothing, but raise money, and Dean has even topped that!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:20 AM
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12. I will vote in their make believe election, but
the link I provided, shows you, that I also blamed Wes for not saying anything about the secret vote counting machines, not just Dean, some of the the Dem Politicians have said things about the secret vote counting machines, they have had two years and the amount of time the Dem politicians have said something ON TV or anywhere else for that matter, has been in minute sound bites, most likely to try and satisfy the election reform people. Problem for the Politicians this time is, it isn't working.........
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:35 AM
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13. Here, here...Well if anything good comes out of this election,
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 02:56 AM by GreenTea
we can now only hope & participate...still there will be such mass republican voting machine stealing, on such a massive scale that it will be finally exposed, big time...Because the republicans have nothing to lose by stealing it...they will hold the majority..and it'll be too late after the election to do anything about it.

As I wrote earlier...

The republicans are not going to let the Dem's under ANY circumstances come away with the majority...They will steal votes in the precincts that are needed...Over 80% of the country vote with these machines...even if a landslide of Dem's come out, the republicans will still steal it...The republicans are fucked if they don't. And what in the fuck do they have to lose? Nothing, only gain.

They've been stealing races out in the open and obvious as can be since the 2000 election, now they are perfecting it...

The corporate media has ignored it in the past and will ignore it again...Dem's will scream, the republicans will say bullshit, sour grapes and the republican will be sworn in & take their seats as always but then it'll be too late...

Then after they steal the seats for a majority when it's too late it will slowly come out...too late, Bush has his republican congress for another two years.

Republicans are going to go all out with their Diebold machines, even stealing races that are obvious, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE...they will get away with it. they always do, nothing ever happens, no way to prove it the EASILY HACKABLE HAVE SPOKEN.

Perhaps the ONLY good that will come of it is it will be exposed, it will be too overwhelming, but still too late, Bush will have his congress...but for 2008 and things will get done...The Dem's unfortunately will come up just short because of the hacking this time...because not enough people yet believe the republicans can do it...still they don't believe it.

The republicans have nothing to lose by stealing it, though we still MUST vote...Just tell me what the repugs have to lose?

If they don't steal it they are gone...if they do steal it they are in...no one in the corporate media will question it until perhaps month's down the line...after we've been screaming for month's...Too late...Bush's fascism will take even more of a hold!

So I do agree with you, but I can't just blame Dean as the problem.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:48 AM
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14. Agreed. He should've kept saying it until he was blue in the face.
We (meanng Howard Dean & other top Dems) need to stop being intimidated by what the right wing 'might' say. They're gonna say it anyway.

The Republicans would have screamed to high hell if the shoe was on the other foot.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:17 AM
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15. "blue in the face." And what what could have been done?
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 03:36 AM by GreenTea
All the electronic voting machines would have been thrown out?

A congressional reversal of the republicans bullshit 2002 Help America Vote Act... By a controlled republican congress, who would never let a democratic bill see the light of day?

The Dem's have had the chance since Georgia in 2002 when it was so completely obvious to anyone who paid the least bit attention.

Dean took over the DNC in 2005 and he's been vocal about it, (as I stated and shown above).

The Republicans one party system and their media hold all the cards and Dean could of screamed like crazy until he was "blue in the face" and then what?

The republicans want and got the machines for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately, it takes time, electronic voting is a relatively new medium and most think the Dem's are crazy and they want to go backwards with paper ballots in this "electronic age" surely the media would reinforce that premise...We're going to have to get our ass kicked and an elections we should of won, massively stolen before everyone will finally take notice.

You & I see it, Dean sees it and has tried and has been ignored...If till "blue in the face." then what?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:28 AM
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16. "Frankly, not the most competent president we've ever had"??
Ooh, Howard. Easy boy. :eyes:
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