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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:50 AM
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To our Republican "Friends":
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 02:09 AM by MrScorpio
Have you realized that your own party leaders have been lying to you all this time yet?

Better late than ever to find out now.

My advice is to ask them hard questions and expect truthful answers, not canned talking points.

Remember, they've been in charge for a pretty long time and they should take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming the Democrats, who aren't even in power.

Have they served your needs and the overall needs of the country? Or have they done and said all that they can just to hold on to the reigns of power?

Do you feel safer, or more scared?

Do you have hope for the future if the Republicans remain in charge, or do you think think that a change of direction is due?

Did you get what you were bargaining for?

Thats the gist of it

You don't have to answer me... Ask them the questions... and demand answers.


Good night, and Good Luck
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 01:52 AM
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1. Disco!
:)
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:03 AM
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2. I hope that will make some of them think
Some will, I think, but the die-hards will never give up their delusions of their party being the party of "values" and patriotism. They will be asking for kool-aid from their death beds, I believe. Sad, really.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:07 AM
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4. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary
It's pretty sad.

They've been betrayed... And they don't even want to acknowledge it.
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Vulture Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:48 AM
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10. I think it runs a little deeper than that
I think many Republicans, and certainly most Americans, feel like they haven't been given much of a choice. There is precious little that justifies going to the polls in many districts these days, except perhaps the random ballot initiative. The candidates suck, and the choices are pre-determined in most cases anyway. Nobody gives a rat's ass what the people actually want, and that is not just a Republican problem (though they certainly broke some records for digressing into WTF territory).

We are becoming like the Italians, who fully expect their politicians to be sleazy and corrupt and think nothing of it any more.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:27 AM
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15. And response, the "values voters" would leap at anything
But even they have to face the lies sometime
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:06 AM
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3. K&R... n/t
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:13 AM
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5. I think some of them ARE seeing the light. But, unfortunately,
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 02:14 AM by SeattleGirl
some of them still thinks Bush walks on water. But hopefully, enough people have woken up to vote AGAINST this Crime Family, and the Dems can take back at least the House.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:15 AM
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6. It's almost like they know what the truth is, but they don't want to
hear it. They want to continue to believe that everything is fine, and that they support a "winner."

I guess they figure if they bury their heads in the sand long enough, they can ignore the bad things that are being done to our country.

I don't get it...I really don't understand how anyone could support this regime after all the shit they have pulled.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:16 AM
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7. Nor can I, driver8.
Nor can I. It truly boggles the mind.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:19 AM
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8. What get's me is that the facade has been pulled off of Bush's piety
I'm wondering if this sinking in yet, the contempt that they have for people of faith.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:34 AM
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9. The unfortunate truth is that the vast majority of humans in the
world insist on believing in all sorts of things that have precisely zero demonstrable basis in fact.
There is no way that anyone can be logically dissuaded from their emotionally arrived at beliefs.

We pride ourselves on our intellectual capabilities and our "common sense" when, in fact, there is no evidence that most people possess either.

The older I get, the more I come to the conclusion that people really suck and are undeserving of the time and effort that I (and many others, of course) have spent and will spend on trying to make a better world.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:51 AM
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11. The "Faith" factor
That's what is in question.

It's hard to overcome that obstacle, even in the face of that faith's betrayal.



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proud_Kucitizen Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:12 AM
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14. well said EST
I think you must have been reading my mind.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:50 PM
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16. Alrighty then.
I could say a lot of things about the negative attitude you are expressing, but I will say...that it has been proven by the scientific community that thoughts have a frequency. I'll also remind you that energy is neither created nor destroyed. Those are fairly provable scientific statements, right? Therefore, it is possible that emotions have a frequency also, since they are often the catalysts and contatined within thought. Those thoughts and energy has to go somewhere and have some effect...for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. Wonder what that would be with a negative thought? Magnets are a good example here.
Maybe we have been going about trying to create a better world in the wrong way.
And I would propose that if you believe that people suck, it will become a self-fufilling prophecy. People will rise, or sink, to the expectations you have of them.
Isn't that what the Republicans act as if they believe about people? Wy on earth would you want to think like that?
Well, I don't think I suck...and I am a very emotional person. I also have the common sense as to when to use that emotion in a situation and when not to. I arrived at that lesson through several years of experience, probably several lifetimes of it.
People learn when they are ready to, and not before. You can't force a lesson on someone. No sense getting so down about it in the meantime...maybe there is someone who IS ready for the education.
I have been accused of being naieve and trusting. However,the percentage of times that people have proven me right as well as wrong is about equal. I just can't stop being the way I am, though...it is as essential to me as breathing. I don't think I was made that way by mistake. If so, I guess nature made a big one.
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Vulture Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 02:53 AM
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12. The power of a winner is well known
Not just as common sense but in well studied clinical psychology. It does not even have to be about politics but applies to everyday life; there is a significant boost in popularity to be had solely on the basis of being a winner. The incumbent effect in short, and a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. People don't like to bet on a loser, even if the odds are 50/50 in the next face-off. Some percentage of the population will instinctively choose the winner in a coin toss based on the winner in the last coin toss even though the events are completely independent.

See: Heuristics and Biases
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 03:03 AM
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13. I'm getting a lot of that impression from the other side
But of course, when I see the consequences of these Republican fuckers winning, I have to wince.

But, I already knew that they'd be horrible at this governance thing.

I'm wondering when the true believers are going to look past the rhetoric to get a gander at their pyrrhic victor.
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