Let the Iraqis have their ancient religious wars, get our people OUT.

[Philosoraptor]

I heard Max Clelend say it yesterday when debating that big fat terry guy who worked for pat buchannan and shares his high pitched screamy panicky voice. Max wants the men and women to come home because it is literally a clusterfuck over there.

It cannot be 'won', it ain't a fucking game, the Iraqis feel like they should all slaughter and torture each other for some reason I can't fathom, and our G.I.'s are only there to dodge bullets and lob a few, and try to stay alive long enough to celebrate Christmas just one more time.

FUCK those crazy mother fuckers and their ancient hatreds, I know its a harsh assessment, but come on already, when you are in the middle of a clusterfuck, the only logical and sane thing to do is cut and run and get the living fuck out of there.

Retreat to fight another day. The best way to honor the fallen is not to send more troops and continue the ridiculous slaughter, the best way to honor the fallen is to get our sons and daughters out of that madhouse and to imprison those that sent them there to hell.

Fuck this insanity, there is no other way to pull out of there other than simply pulling out of there.

[Jeanette in FL]

1. Anyone who still supports this war

needs to enlist right now or get their own children or grandchildren involved. I wish I would run into someone who supports this war, I would give them a piece of my mind. Where are these people?

So damn sad.

[Swamp Rat]

2. BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!!!!!

!

[leftofthedial]

3. geez, I hate being right sometimes

I was excoriated on this forum for suggesting this in 2004.

Civil war is inevitable whether we are there or not.

[genie_weenie]

4. 20 Jan 2009 is the earliest "possible" date but

is not a "probable" date for the troops to leave Iraq. There is no force on Earth which will compel The Glorious Leader to withdraw from Iraq. There is no way the Republican Party will allow itself to be labeled as the losers of Iraq. It must occur on a Democrats watch so the Republicans can tie the Dems to failure in War for the next generation of voters...