Shays says Abu Ghraib abuses were more about pornography than torture

[kpete]

Shays says Abu Ghraib abuses were more about sex, not torture
By Andrew Miga, Associated Press Writer | October 13, 2006

HARTFORD, Conn. --Republican Rep. Christopher Shays said Friday the Abu Ghraib prison abuses were more about pornography than torture.

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"It was a National Guard unit run amok," Shays said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It was torture because sex abuse is torture. It was gross and despicable ... This is more about pornography than torture."

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"Now I've seen what happened in Abu Ghraib, and Abu Ghraib was not torture," Shays said at a debate Wednesday.

"It was outrageous, outrageous involvement of National Guard troops from (Maryland) who were involved in a sex ring and they took pictures of soldiers who were naked," added Shays. "And they did other things that were just outrageous. But it wasn't torture."

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5I1rGFCVOs&eurl=

more at:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/10/13/shays_says_abu_ghraib_abuses_were_sex_ring_not_torture/

these people are sick, kpete

[kenny blankenship]

1. If you find that sort of stuff arousing Mr. Shays, I pity you. I really do

[TahitiNut]

25. GMTA. That was exactly what I thought.

How anyone not perverted can regard that as porn is really, really twisted.

[Sherman A1]

2. Replace National Guard Unit with Administration

run amok and he's right!

[unpossibles]

3. egads! No wonder they hate sex so much! n/t

[ShortnFiery]

4. Shays has Jumped the Shark ...

I hope that this hysterical man is FLATLY (by a significant margin) voted out of The House come November the 7th.

IMO Shays is the Poster Boy for a "Sniveling and Delusional Crybaby." :thumbsdown:

[MidwestTransplant]

19. Yeah between that and his Kennedy comments he should be done...Hopefully

[apnu]

21. nah, Gingrich is the poster boy

"He made me sit at the back of the plane!" LOL I remember seeing the NY Post cover that day with the giant cartoon of a bawling Newt. Funniest thing I've ever seen on the front page of any paper.

[blm]

5. And date rape is more about sex than violence.

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[NanceGreggs]

6. How stupid do you have to be ...

... to trot out this 'few bad apples' BS yet again, after everything we've seen and heard over the past few years?

I hereby declare Chris Shays totally brain-dead - and I don't even have to view a videotape to make that diagnosis.

[NewJeffCT]

7. Only in the mind of a Republic is this merely a sex ring

Shays is really losing it - first with his Chappaquiddick comment earlier this week... and now this absolutely bizzaro comment on Abu Graib.

This guy used to be fairly respectable.

[MrCoffee]

8. It a big ol' GOP perv-a-thon!

cybersex during a House vote! inappropriate sexual contact with pages! porno at Abu Ghraib!

[Solly Mack]

9. Idiot. Does he even listen to himself when he speaks?

"It was torture because sexual abuse is torture"...but the torture which is torture because sexual abuse is torture isn't really about torture so much as pornography?

[wryter2000]

10. Did someone slip Kool Aid into his coffee?

I know he's a repug, but he normally makes sense. What in hell is wrong with the guy?

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Does this fool profess to be 'christian'? His morals are certainly

suspect.

[babylonsister]

12. Wow, he keeps digging that hole deeper, and is sounding like Allen,

RE: foot in mouth disease.

[Xipe Totec]

13. Spoken like an expert

with the ease and comfort that comes from years of practice and familiarity with the subject.

[opihimoimoi]

14. Did he ask the victims if they enjoyed it??? How stupid is this Shays??

Damn....

Porn my ass....oops....

[Richard Steele]

15. Too bad for Shays that the FACTS oppose his ridiculous assertion...

I was going to post several AbuGhraib pics,
but I think just one is sufficient to make
my point:

[Judi Lynn]

18. I don't recall pornography ever involved BLOOD, or death!

Thank god hillbillies like us have world-wise Republican senators to explain it to us!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Just what sort of sex is Shay into?

Was that some sort of Freudian slip?

[rman]

17. the point was/is to humiliate the captives so they could be black mailed

into serving as informants - not to extract information from them. Most didn't even know anything, because they weren't guilty of anything.

[NNN0LHI]

30. The guy with the hood standing on a box with the electrodes on him? n/t

[rman]

32. are we sure that's all they did to him?

[Vidar]

20. Sorry, non-consensual bdsm is, by definition, torture.

[redqueen]

22. Is he flip floppin a little bit there?

"It was torture because sex abuse is torture."

"But it wasn't torture."

:wtf:

[ProgressiveEconomist]

23. Premature use of future talking points? Are the photos Sy Hersh

wrote about in danger of imminent publication?

[calico1]

24. Good God!

He was the ONE Republican in my State that I had any respect for because he had the balls to criticize his own party. But it looks like he has finally been taken over by the pod!

[Crankie Avalon]

26. Just because he's a Republican he thinks he's an expert on pornography...

...oh, wait, they are experts, especially regarding the sickest, most extreme, illegal-to-distribute types of pornography. That being said, normal human beings would say this was torture (and of course, Chris Shays lately has been showing he's pretty far from normal and human).

[Stand and Fight]

27. What the fuck is up with Shays this week?

First he brings up Chappaquiddick and now this! :wtf:

EDIT TO ADD: Is he trying to lose?

[CoffeeCat]

28. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure...

...Mr. Shays, you dumb**ck.

...because every sex ring includes terrorizing people by threatening them with aggressive
dogs salivating in their faces.

...because most pornography involves placing dark hoods on people and placing wires on their
genitals--where they receive shocks of electricity.

...because most sex rings involve beating someone's face until the are unrecognizable.

...and as we all know...the vast majority of sex rings and pornography involve military prison guards and rounded-up citizens--many of whom are guilty of no crimes.

Yeah. That's right. None of the aforementioned is torture. Electrocuting genitals, beatings, terrorizing with trained killer animals---those are just common eventualities of an everyday sex ring. Just one big, free-flowing, outta-control orgy.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Is Shays retarded?

[Disturbed]

29. "aggressive dogs salivating in their faces."

[bobthedrummer]

31. Liar-it was systemic and the chain of command knew it, also don't

forget the role of the mercenaries from Titan, CACI etc. some of whom were agents and citizens of foreign powers.

Special Access Programs indeed.

This is a typical reaction of a culture of death-you're either with them or against them or in denial of reality.

[StellaBlue]

33. As a feminist, they are the same thing to me.

nt

[mcg]

34. Video with Shays comments and Abu Ghraib photos (at youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp5f5y0fdC4

[spanone]

35. I used to have a small amount of respect for Mr. Shays... No more.

n/t

[SOS]

36. In 2003, at Abu Ghraib,

an Iraqi was pushed, face first, into a sleeping bag and then stomped to death by US interrogators.
Does Mr. Shays find this erotically stimulating?
If so, he should resign his seat immediatley and check into a psychiatric hospital.