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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:30 PM
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NH JJ Dinner - Kerry Cspan2
I am a terrible live blogger, hopefully some others will jump in. And here's some expected excerpts:

They tell us we’re making progress in Iraq and that there is no civil war. That is a lie. There is a civil war and it is costing American and Iraqi lives every single day and we must change course in Iraq.

They tell us the Congressional Page scandal is a Democratic plot to win the mid term elections. That is a lie. This issue is here because of a Republican cover-up. And those from the Party that preaches moral values that covered this up, have no right to preach moral values any more.

They say we must support the war in order to support the troops. I say the best way to support the troops is to oppose a course that squanders their lives, oppose a course that dishonors their sacrifice, and oppose a course that disserves our principles. They say we would dishonor the lives that have been lost by changing course in Iraq. How immoral and shameful to use lives already given as an excuse to take even more. How immoral to say that more must die because others already have. When soldiers suffer and die on the altar of an Administration’s stubborn pride, when they lose limbs because of the incompetence and arrogance of mere politicians, then the only patriotic choice is to take back the moral authority abused by those in high office – take it back and throw them out.


In New Hampshire, Congressmen Bass and Congressman Bradley have failed to ask the tough questions, failed to demand the answers, and rubberstamped a willful president’s wrongful course. That failure demands the independent voice of New Hampshire be represented by the independent voices of Paul Hodes and Carol Shea Porter!

Let me tell you, presidents and politicians may worry about losing face, or losing votes, or losing legacy – I believe we ought to worry about young Americans who are losing their lives.

It’s immoral for old men to send young Americans to fight and die in a conflict without a strategy that can work – on a mission that has not weakened terrorism but worsened it.


Well I think Americans see through this charade. Americans now know the truth:

We have a Katrina foreign policy –blunders and failures that have betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it.


We deserve leaders who know we have “nothing to fear but fear itself” not politicians who have nothing to offer but fear itself.


No Democrat should be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan, a do nothing policy in North Korea and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq. We need to stand up to them because staying the course isn't far-sighted; it's blind. Leaving our troops in the middle of a civil war isn't resolute; it's reckless. Remember: half of the service members listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall died after America's leaders knew our strategy would not work. It was immoral then and it would be immoral now to engage in the same delusion.

We need to once again start treating our moral authority as a national asset that does not tie our hands but extends our reach. We must never excuse an Abu Ghraib or a Guantanamo. And let me say it plainly: No American president should be for torture before he's against it.

So more than anything, we need to make America, America again –we need to restore America’s moral authority in the world and the United States needs to make some friends on this planet.


There are more Katrinas. Take health care – health care is a slow-motion Katrina that’s ruining lives and bankrupting families all over the country. In the almost six Bush years, health insurance premiums have gone up 73 percent.


You want a test of family values? Here’s a really simple test: Instead of people earning a million dollars a year getting another tax cut, give every child in America health care – now!

So our job as Democrats is to fight until we stop allowing the richest country on the face of the planet to be the only one that doesn’t have health care for every man, woman, and child. The Democratic Party must stand for health care for all Americans—or we don’t stand for anything at all.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:42 PM
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1. Going to watch now with little blm.....
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:47 PM
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2. Congress is a house of lies, time to clean house. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:52 PM
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5. Ran down list of lies:Iraq, NK, Foley, now listing how IMMORAL they are
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 07:53 PM by blm
to lie about war to the American people is IMMORAL.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:55 PM
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6. Republicans lied about Iraq on the Senate floor.
Warner now wants a deadline.

Administration cut and run in Afghanistan.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:55 PM
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8. Staying the course is not visionary, it's blind.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:50 PM
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3. Talking about Rumsfeld -
Immoral to send troops without plan, lie, use 9-11 for politics.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:51 PM
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4. Americans know the Republican playbook by heart by now.
Republicans playing fear card, divide America by saying only one party can fight terrorism.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:55 PM
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7. i LIKE that kerry. he is da man. kickin more ass n/t
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:56 PM
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9. Getting lot's of Standing O's
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 07:59 PM by kerrygoddess
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 07:58 PM
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10. "They debate strawmen because they're afraid to debate real men and women"
Thank you Senator Kerry!
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:00 PM
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11. What's happening to American worker is wrong, Congress does not
even try to make a difference, no Congress in touch with Americans would fail to raise minimum wage.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:02 PM
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12. Wal-Mart uses workers until workers get sick.
Immoral that Americans with full-time jobs don't have healthcare.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:03 PM
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13. Thank you, sandnsea! His speech is terrific, and the crowd
Edited on Fri Oct-13-06 08:04 PM by babylonsister
adores him! I'm so glad I tuned in!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:04 PM
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14. It's not "heal the sick, if you can pay for it" n/t
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:04 PM
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15. Scriptures did not say, "heal the sick if they can pay for it."
"The Democratic Party must stand for healthcare for all, or we don't stand for anything"
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:06 PM
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16. Army of citizens made NH blue in '04.
Republicans traffic fear and feed cynicism.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:10 PM
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17. "Tell the American people the truth, and tell it to them all the time.
Fire the incompetents.

Make America energy indpendent.

Value work, not wealth, and let tax system work for middle class.

Export products, not jobs.

Ted Kennedy fighting 44 years for healthcare.

Do something for real about climate change and clean water.

Restoring America's moral authority means setting dealine for Iraqis to take over.

Remind Republicans that our values are shared by members of all parites.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:13 PM
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18. Who said Democrats have no plan.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:21 PM
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26. are you hearing a plan mass? i often hear plans from dems. and then
i get to listen to people on the board, media and repug all say they dont have plans. further, i have watched them change and adapt their plan as time changes and things in our world shift, always ready. further,i listened to pelosi with 3/4 immediate actions she wants to take as soon as they get the house

sounding to me like they have plans.....
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:15 PM
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19. "The Democratic Party must stand for..."
"The Democratic Party must stand for healthcare for all, or we don't stand for anything!"
- John Forbes Kerry
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:16 PM
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20. "Now I know what you're up against..."
"Now I know what you're up against. No one knows better than I do... I know you're fighting fear. I know you're fighting cynicism."
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:16 PM
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21. "A huge idea... Tell the American people the truth... "
"A huge idea... Tell the American people the truth... Fire the incompetents and hold people accountable... I don't know a bigger idea than making America energy independent... Value work, not wealth. Let the tax system work for the middle class and not just for the wealthiest Americans... Export products, not jobs... We're not going to stop till we pass health care."
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:17 PM
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22. "Clean up our lakes, our rivers, our climate..."
"Clean up our lakes, our rivers, our climate, and our streams so the children can enjoy them in the future."
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:17 PM
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23. "We need to restore America's moral authority in the world." n/t
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:18 PM
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24. "We need to reply on our own energy independence..."
"We need to reply on our own energy independence and not on the Saudi royal family... We do better as a country when we're red, white, and blue -- one America!"
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:19 PM
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25. "My country right or wrong?..."
"My country right or wrong? When it's right, keep it right; when it's wrong, make it right."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:22 PM
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27. you are doing terrific stand and fight. thank you n/t
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:24 PM
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29. No problem. His speech is over, but....
I wanted to help those out who may be unable to view it.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:28 PM
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33. It'll be on Road to the White House Sunday as well n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:23 PM
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28. Stand and Fight, you're awesome! Thanks! n/t
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:25 PM
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31. Just wanted to get his great words out...
People keep askign him if he's running, and he keeps saying he's thinking about it.

My God, I hope he runs.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:24 PM
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30. The good think with CSPAN is that they show us the after speech
You can clearly see that Kerry does not connect :sarcasm:
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:30 PM
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34. Yeah, just ask that teenage girl who almost fainted after she talked
to him :)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:31 PM
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35. details details
I had to turn it off. :(
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 09:08 PM
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36. You would of thought
she just met a rock star. Young people love him, it reminds me of when I was young and met Bobby Kennedy.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-13-06 08:26 PM
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32. Thanks everybody
Great blogging!!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:32 AM
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37. Kicking so people can see great liveblogging! n/t
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