Faux news suggests Cindy lied and wasnt nominated for Peace Prize

[brettdale]

www.foxnews.com

Military mom turned peace activist Cindy Sheehan announced yesterday that she was a finalist for the Nobel Peace Prize at a book signing in Texas. But the committee in charge of selecting the winner never reveals the list of nominees, raising the question of how Sheehan knew she'd been nominated? And what's more…national blogs that take bets about who will win the prize didn't even have Sheehan on the list.

And as you know by now—Sheehan was not the winner.

—FOX News Channel's Aaron Bruns contributed to this report.

[Lasher]

1. Didn't Junior claim he'd been nominated when Carter got the prize?

I'm thinking Junior said he had been nominated that year, but then Carter actually won the peace prize.

[Gman]

9. I could nominate Idi Amin

and he could walk around and say he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. IIRC, pretty much everyone laughed about Bush saying that because anyone can be nominated.

[Ms. Toad]

11. Actually, even though anyone can be nominated,

The nominators are very limited: The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize, based on the principle of competence and universality, shall by statute be enjoyed by:

1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

....So you must be someone special if you could nominate Idi Amin :)

[Downtown Hound]

2. Who gives a shit what Faux News says?

Not that I'm discouraging you or anyone else from posting their latest atrocity, I like to hear what they're up to, it's just that their gig is up. They're not fooling anyone anymore. The morans that watch Fox and believe it are going to believe it no matter what. Fox is preaching to the choir there. Everyone else knows that Faux is right wing crap. The only thing Faux has yet to figure out is that the rest of the world right now is laughing at them, not with them.

[michreject]

3. There's no way to prove it

one way or another. :shrug:

[wholetruth00]

6. Did Cindy receive notice that she was on the short list?

If so, I hope she publishes it.

[michreject]

7. From what I understand

The committee doesn't tell those who have been nominated. You only know that you were nominated if you win. The info is kept secret for 50 years. If someone said there was a leak, there's no way to prove or disprove it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

8. Those who do the nominating can make it public

because they are politicians (and, I think, previous winners) from around the world. But there can be hundreds nominated each year. The committee draws up a short list of serious candidates - see eg

In 1937 a member of the Norwegian Storting (Parliament), Ole Colbjørnsen (Labour Party), nominated Gandhi for that year's Nobel Peace Prize, and he was duly selected as one of thirteen candidates on the Norwegian Nobel Committee's short list.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/gandhi/index.html

and that is kept secret for the 50 years. There was a report in an anonymous email that Sheehan had said "You guys are going to be the first to know . . . I got some exciting news today. They're announcing the Nobel Peace Prize Friday, and I'm on the short list", but that may just have meant her name had appeared on some people's own lists of likely candidates - eg http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/11/AR2006101101243.html .

[WePurrsevere]

10. It may be that she or whoever told her misunderstood from reading a news

source OR someone's bs-ing in an attempt to trash Cindy.

[Ms. Toad]

12. Nominators routinely announce their nominees

For example - http://afsc.org/news/2006/nobel-nomination.htm

Although it would be pretty hard to assemble a complete list - if Cindy Sheehan was nominated she would likely have been told by whoever nominated her.

[xultar]

13. Regardless, it would have been better if she'd kept it on the DL.

[Ms. Toad]

16. I agree.

Just addressing whether she likely knew.

[michreject]

17. I agree on that point

I can nominate you. You would know that you had been nominated because I would tell you. Once you get past the initial process to make the so called short list, no one but the committee knows who is on it. Even though I nominated you, you wouldn't know wether you had made the short list or not and neither would I.

This is what i'm trying to say. Cindy knew that she had been nominated but didn't know wether she had made the cut. If some insider states that they had leaked that info, there is no way to prove what they say is true. No for 50 years.

[xultar]

4. I will say I was disappointed to hear she'd supposedly blabbed about

being on the short list. One thing I do respect about Nobel Prise winners is the fact that they are usually so humble about such possibilities.

I think the whole thing was in poor taste and I hope it doesn't affect her possibly winning in the future. I think she should do her work for peace and love and let it speak for itself.

[Crabby Appleton]

5. The committee is very secretive.

Information about who was nominated is kept secret for 50 years by the committee.

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/database.html

[Generic Other]

14. And O'Reilly got a Polk too

Assholes. At least Cindy was eligible for the prize she claims she was nominated for.

[Stephanie]

15. She was on the AP list of possible winners >

So I guess she didn't just MAKE IT UP. It was widely reported all over the world via the AP.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061011/ap_on_re_eu/nobel_peace_1

5 Norwegians to decide Nobel Peace Prize By DOUG MELLGREN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Oct 11, 4:08 PM ET

OSLO, Norway - Why would any decision made by five low-key Norwegians meeting in a back room in the capital have global consequences? Because they will decide whether a former Finnish president or a global charity or even a rock star railing against poverty in developing countries should win the coveted Nobel Peace Prize on Friday.

Speculation has been rife with names ranging from Oprah Winfrey to veteran peace negotiators such as former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, who helped foment a deal between Indonesia's government and Aceh separatists last year.

Ahtisaari brokered the talks between the two through his Crisis Management Initiative, and oddsmakers say that he, along with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and the Free Aceh movement, could share the annual prize.

Others touted as possible winners are Russian human rights activist Sergei Kovalyev and Chechen lawyer Lida Yusupova; the British-based charity Oxfam; Chinese dissident Rebiya Kadeer, who has fought for the rights of Uighur Muslims in China; and even anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan.

[Igel]

18. She might have made it up.

I figure it's very likely that some history or social science professor nominated her and told her, and take her at her word (the cast of possible nominators runs in the 10s of thousands). But keep in mind that the construction with "touted" has no agent. Who did the touting? I take 'tout' here to mean 'promote or praise energetically; publicize'. I assume the passive is used here because each alleged nominee had a different set of 'touters', and the news folk didn't want to produce a list-pair.

The prize committee did no pre-selection touting; it's unseemly to suggest they promoted or praised her, and to publicize her would have been against committee rules.

No, it was the media that talked about her, and blogs. The AP reported that the AP and others reported that she was nominated, based upon what she said and others said she said.