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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:19 AM
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It's time to start the war on Christmas! Everybody knows the gameplan
uh? Got all your passwords and assignments?
The red suit flies at dawn.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:20 AM
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1. We should declare war on a holidy that's not so well defended
Arbor day for example.

Stupid trees.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:22 AM
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2. We won that war years ago.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:24 AM
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3. Or White Flower Day -- we can take Macy's!
:rofl:
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:54 AM
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23. I am declaring war on
Christmas SHOPPERS! Oh do I hate the retail part of it. Thank god for gift cards, Amazon.com and other retail sites. No more long lines, traffic jams, pissed off and fired up people, etc.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:23 AM
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25. I 've been car-free and instore shopping free for about the same
amount of time, about three years.
I'm winning the War on Christmas! Onward!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:04 PM
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43. Just like Macy's took Marshall Fields nt
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 06:04 PM by mycritters2
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:25 AM
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4. My campaign against Nativity scenes
will begin forthwith commander.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:28 AM
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5. this year -- as in other years -- gay men will
out decorate every straight persons christmas tree or chanuka bush in the land.

thereby ruining christmas for millions of jealous evangelical christians and bill o'really.

i've just ordered some fabulous hand made stuff from germany.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:25 AM
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26. Our Secret Weapon! "Merry Gay Christmas!"
:rofl:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:31 PM
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29. damn straight!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:05 PM
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30. No,no,no....
you have to be subtle. For instance, I always say 'Have an ass day' really fast and it sound like 'Have a nice day'. Now say 'Fairy Christmas' (more emphasis on Christmas) and there you have it....our secret code/hand shake wink wink nudge nudge.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:22 PM
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34. Don we now... nt
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:00 PM
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51. "Gay Christmas To The Convict Party"
The cards are at the printers. I just need to gather the addresses of all the prisons where these RepubliCONS are spending the holidays!
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:29 AM
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6. Didn't we finish it off last year?
Damn. I really need to keep up with the memos.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:05 PM
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44. Still a few insurgent strongholds that need cleaning out nt
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:27 PM
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48. Egads! Once more into the breach!! n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:31 AM
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7. i started my war in summer. told 8 yr old NO santa.....
i figure 8, was time to let it go. youngest out of allthe kids, cousins. didnt want him embarrassed at school. he shunned me,.... he dismissed me. three months after i told him, and without a single comment all this time after the conversation, he said to my friend last night

can you believe, mom says there is no santa claus

(really i think he wants to just keep pretending, which is fine with me. we can do cookies and milk one more year. and a note from santie. it is fun)

so..... i put my first foot in the war against christmas way back in july
wink
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:24 PM
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35. I still put cookies out
And they're always gone in the morning. And the beagle seems strangely satisfied.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 05:28 PM
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40. ah ha ha ha, not that i can share that with my 8 yr old, but.....
my 11 yr old is going ot enjoy your story. that is funny
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:33 AM
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8. My LTTE last year
To the Editor:

I am writing in response to a recent letter regarding "political correctness" in our speech.

Frankly, what I am most puzzled about is the so-called "War on Christmas." What I saw around New Haven at Christmas time were creches and other displays of very religious symbols and celebrations on the front lawns of houses in my neighborhood, and in front of churches all over the city. Performances of Handel's "Messiah" were embraced by enthusiastic audiences, just as they have been for many years. As in the past, Christmas parties were held in homes throughout our area. People were observing the holy day of Christmas in churches peacefully, without interruption of their worship or any obstruction of their constitutionally protected exercise of freedom of religion, as guaranteed by our Bill of Rights. The Christmas holiday was celebrated in the most religious and devout way.

We live in a multi-cultural society in America today. Not everyone shares my or anyone else's religious beliefs. I was brought up to believe in the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If that means not wishing "Merry Christmas" to people that you know who do not celebrate it, it is not because of a government prohibition. It is called common courtesy.


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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:36 AM
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9. and let us not forget the OTHER Christmas--Orthodox one, Jan. 6
it lies entirely undefended!!!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:28 PM
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36. We could sneak up on it, undetected
while it thinks we're attacking the "real" Christmas. I like the way you think.

And that Yule seems to be getting a bit cocky. I say we take it out!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:43 AM
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10. Jesus' birthday was October 7th, and it was ignored. We won! n/t
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:47 AM
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11. I'll put blinking Christmas lights on my Webb sign in the window
especially if he wins. All I want for Christmas is the elections!
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:49 AM
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12. The shiny nose prances rapidly...
Take THAT Christmas!

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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:31 PM
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49. That Rudolph fucker's goin' DOWN!
We're gonna gitmo his reindeer ass!
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:50 AM
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13. Denounce Ebenezer Murdoch's war against Christmas Spirit!
Last year he caught us by surprise with his sneak attack against Peace On Earth and Goodwill Toward Men. This year let's expose his satanic malice for what it is!
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:02 AM
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14. Roger that, Commander!
The 13th Airborne Division is ready and waiting to fly, Sir!



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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:06 AM
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15. Woo Hoo! Been waiting for the anti-Christmas Season all year!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:30 PM
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38. Me, too
That snowfall the other day had me feeling all Scroogey inside.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:17 PM
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45. I don't see why we have to start so goddamned early
Here it's not even halloween and I've got to be dragging out the anti-christmas stuff. Used to be you could just hate on christmas during december and be done with it. I think it takes away from the spirit of the thing if we start too early. It just spoils it for me. Ya know what I mean?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:55 PM
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46. I know what you mean--It's just October and already the
anti-Christmas music has started playing. I'm gonna be sick of it by Thanksgiving.....

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 08:57 PM
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52. I barely get done with my Halloween Satan-worshipping
before I'm expected to start complaining about creches in parks!
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:13 AM
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16. Thanks for the reminder
Time to get into gear. Those blinking lights have to go!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:20 AM
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17. Sir! Tinsel and garland factories
have been targeted, Sir!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:38 AM
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18. My Unit is Ready
Does anyone know if we'll be treating Santa as an enemy combat or a POW?
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:49 AM
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19. My sources say santa is going to gitmo, along with bill O'really
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:51 AM
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21. I'd give three fingers on my left hand to see O' lielly go to gitmo
I'd give my whole hand to have insannity join him -- for ohhh...say 3 years.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:13 PM
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31. We tried to water board the info outta him...
but the water kept freezing up.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:46 PM
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55. We're waiting for instructions from Clinton/Hollywood/DailyKos. n/t
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:51 AM
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20. I teach mythology. In my class the battle will be fierce
In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.

In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.

The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.

Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.

The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.

In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”

http://de.essortment.com/christmaspagan_rece.htm

In Greek mythology, Chronos was born from Uranus, god of the sky, and Gaia, goddess of the earth. Gaia, seeking vengeance against Uranus for his mistreatment of their children, armed Chronos with a sickle, with which he castrated his father.... In usurping his father, Chronos was now lord of the earth. But his dying parents prophesied that history would repeat itself, and that one of Chronos’ sons would dethrone him. Because of this prophecy, Chronos swallowed his children as soon as his wife Rhea gave birth to them. When Zeus was born, however, she deceived Chronos, and instead of giving him the child, gave him a stone wrapped in clothes. Zeus grew up and sought to usurp his father, giving him a poisoned potion that forced Chronos to vomit up all his children - Hades, Posiedon, Hestia, Hera and Demeter - unharmed, and also the stone. Zeus then overthrew Chronos...

The Chronos story represents an origin-myth because it tells both of the birth of the Olympian gods, and of the birth of time - of the "chronology" derived from Chronos. However, if this myth ushers in time, it does so because it defies categories. As such, it is a complex, deeply layered and disturbing myth, encompassing both stark cruelty and utopian blessing. Chronos presides over a time both of child cannibalism, gender inversion and violent disorder, and of a time outside time; a mythical golden age of bliss and plenty. When Chronos is finally vanquished, he presides over the Elysian Fields, the home of the dead, the Greek version of heaven.

Ancient cult sites dedicated to Chronos date back to at least circa 600 BCE. In some cases - at Rhodes, for example - Kronian rituals were associated with human sacrifice. In others, as at Attica, the festival appears to have been joyous and peaceful.

Perhaps most significantly, the Greek rituals dedicated to Chronos were practiced on a seasonal basis. Kronia rituals were associated with the harvest. The Athenian Kronia in particular took place in the first months of the year, and seems to have been a sort of New Year celebration. The rituals involved carnivalesque feasts of exultation, abundance and role reversal: their special feature was that masters and slaves ate together; and in some cases masters even served their slaves. While these practices echoed elements of the mythological story, it was perhaps their seasonal structure that had real significance in defining the festival as a sacred time - a redemptive period set apart from ordinary life, in which relationships were re-made and deep meaning in the world rediscovered.

http://www.science-spirit.org/article_detail.php?article_id=171

Because the festive aspects of the German-American Christmas, including the tree, were considered pagan, the Puritans in New England shunned them until about 1875. They were not entirely wrong!

It is generally acknowledged that the Christmas tree is of German origin. In the pre-Christian era the oak was the sacred tree for the Germanic peoples. Legend has it that the missionary to the Germans, St. Boniface, in order to stop sacrifices at their sacred Donar Oak near Geismar, chopped the tree down <725 A.D.>. He is said to have replaced the oak by a fir tree, adorned in tribute to the new-born Christ. Ironically, the evergreen tree has been ascribed magical power by the Germanic peoples as a representation of fertility. Today, the fir and its next of kin enjoy the highest degree of popularity. The Christmas tree custom has spread across large parts of the world.

http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/pagan.htm

Yule Log - A special log was chosen on the eve of Yule, for the holiday fire. A small piece from last year's log is used to light the fire. The lighting of the fire was a festive family event, to hurry the return of the sun. Charred pieces from the fire would be kept to protect the house through the coming year. The woods most often sought for the Yule log were birch, oak willow or holly. Today, the Yule log is sometimes represented as a log cake instead. Or a small log is decorated with candles. The burning of the Yule log is a well-known tradition, but it's not often done outside of the Pagan community anymore.

Kissing Under Mistletoe - The roots of this habit are unknown, but is likely tied with the fertility aspects of mistletoe and that it was viewed as a bringer of peace by the Druids. Mistletoe was also a powerful healing herb. Mistletoe and kissing are also seen in one of the Norse myths: Frigga is the Norse Goddess of love, marriage and fertility. Her son, Balder was slain by Loki with an arrrow made from mistletoe. When Balder was restored to life, Frigga blessed the mistletoe and gave a kiss to anyone who passed under it. Some later versions of this tradition say to remove one berry with each kiss. When there are no more berries on the sprig of mistletoe, no more kisses.

Tree Decorating - There is some debate on the origin of this tradition. Druids (and some other ancient cultures) saw evergreen trees as symbols of everlasting life, because they seemed to live through the winter undaunted by the cold. So using evergreen branches as decorations symbolized the undying strength of the Sun. Decorating the trees may have come from the ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia (see below for more on Saturnlia).

<snip>

In Rome, the god most explicitly identified with Chronos was Saturn, and the Saturnalia was recognised as a festival almost identical to the Kronia of Classical Athens. The Saturnalia formed the heart of a set of winter rituals that were celebrated across the winter solstice and into the New Year. The Saturnalia itself began on December 17, and lasted for a week. It was widely recognized as the most popular festival of the Roman year. Cattalus described the Saturnalia as "the merriest festival of the year," "the best of days." Like the Kronia, the Saturnalia was a ritual typified above all by role reversal, in which slaves were given temporary liberty to do as they liked, and dined before their masters, and a mock king was enthroned who presided over feasts and amusements. Gifts were also exchanged between friends and family, and the time was spent eating, drinking and playing games.

http://paganwiccan.about.com/cs/aboutyule/a/paganxmas.htm
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:00 PM
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53. Great material
Sign me up for your class!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 10:53 AM
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22. It's not even Halloween yet, for cryin' out loud.
The WoC just starts earlier and earlier each year...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:26 AM
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27. First they came for the Jack-O-Lanterns
lol
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:34 PM
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39. I am waging my one-woman war on Halloween
No Candy for YOU!!!

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:20 AM
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24. Dammit!!! You said we would
wait till after Thanksgiving!!!We aren't ready here.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:52 AM
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28. Are there no gulags? Are there no sweatshops? n/t
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:17 PM
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32. obviously you haven't seen...
Santa's 'work shop' Those folks are held there for all their life for their political/religous beliefs and forced to work feverishly for little of nothing-how else can they give it away for free.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:21 PM
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33. I'm going to start by stealing all the angels from the tops of Xmas trees.
:evilgrin:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:29 PM
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37. When are we going to win this war????
When I was a child in the 60's I can remember walking by storefronts that had the words "Happy Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" in front. And I also remember cards with those phrases. So this war has been going on for generations with no end in sight!:D
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 05:35 PM
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41. Got it handled here in Texas
Put an ad on Craigslist for little short men in green suits needed to make a raunchy porn movie called "My North Pole".
ALL of the elves signed up.
Next up going to start a rumor that Santa has actually outsourced the reindeer to India and is planning on selling the present herd to a meat packing plant.
Remember--the Blue Goose is Loose. And that isn't talking about Babs and her beautiful mind.;)
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:36 PM
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50. You post is why I shouldn't drink coffee and read DU
:spray:

:rofl:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 06:01 PM
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42. O'Reilly having Christmas scenes painted on his dildo
to get himself in the holiday spirit for the coming fight to preserve Christmas.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 07:17 PM
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47. Peace on earth, good will to men--or else!
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wilco84 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 09:04 PM
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54. Get your Uniforms here, soldiers.
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