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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:25 AM
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I'm optimistic that both houses will turn blue
The polls don't lie. I'm not a big fan of polls, but if we're going to have them so be it.

Both houses are going to the Democrats in 3 weeks or so. I say this in spite of election stealing because no matter how much the pukes try, they can't steal all of them. If, for example, a poll shows the Democrat leading by 20 or 30 points, it would be too obvious to steal that one.

This is why those of us here who are wary of election fraud (including myself) will not say "Don't even bother to vote". The larger the gap in the polls, the harder it is to steal the election. It's the 50/50 races that are going to be stolen, but there aren't that many of those. And if we all keep it up in the next few weeks, if the polls start widening the gaps so that the Democrat has a substantial lead in the polls, it will make it that much harder for them to diebold the election.

Not to say that I'd put ANYTHING past the repuglicans. But they can't make it all that obvious, now can they?

They MIGHT be able to steal the senate, but you know what? It doesn't matter. If the Dems take one house, that's all that's needed.

I think it's going to happen.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:28 AM
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1. Mark Shields thinks so, too
He said he thought the Dems would pick up 30 seats in the House, and would also win the Senate.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:29 AM
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2. They Will Try To Steal It
I have ZERO doubt in my mind that this is their plan.

I'm not sure if there is any way to stop it, but I will be doing my part and voting a straight Democratic ticket.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:29 AM
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3. MIght be a good idea for the last week before the election...
to put the word out for people to observe all polliing places, all precinct headquarters, and any other place where ballots are marked, transported, and counted.

We've watched democracy go down the tubes for 3 elections now...time to insure that this election is as fair and clean/honest as ordinary people can make it.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:32 AM
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6. Scary ain't it, to think the Republicans could steal yet another one.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:53 AM
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10. Good But what do we do at polling places with electronic, unverifiable,
voting?
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:31 AM
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4. I like the way you think
and you're right: the wider the gaps, the harder it will be for the repug thieves to steal the elections.

VOTE--AS IF YOUR LIFE AND FUTURE DEPENDED ON IT, I say!

Because it does.:dem: :patriot: :dem: :patriot:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:31 AM
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5. I expect the repugs
to start publishing polls showing a "closing of the gap". Needless to say, these polls will be entire fantasy created with the sole purpose of THEN effectively stealing what had suddenly "become" a "close race".

I expect that to start happening over the next two weeks.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:34 AM
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7. Me too...
I think the 'pubby voters are going to cut and run this year, all but the ones with extreme kool-aid poisoning.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:47 AM
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8. Why I agree...
Unlike people on the DU a lot of voters do not keep up to date on the issues until it is time to vote. And mid-term voters probably are more likely to go by the issues. As Nov 7 gets closer and the issues start to sink in it should get even better, theoretically.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:51 AM
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9. "The polls don't lie" Are you serious? Which polls & who OWNS & run them?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:12 PM
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11. Hopefully this won't have the opposite effect...
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 12:13 PM by RestoreGore
That is, Democrats thinking that it will be such a blowout that they stay home thinking it isn't necessary for them to vote. I don't think Democrats should be so cocky and sit on their laurels so soon. This isn't over until all the votes are allowed to be counted... and hopefully we will make it through the next two and a half weeks without another war, a major terror attack, or some other "emergency." As far as polls go, they hold no credibility one way or the other for me. The polls predicted Bush would win the popular vote in 2000 and we know how that turned out.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:31 PM
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12. If we win,
we MUST remain vigilant. And I'm including the Dems in that vigilance. We need to get rid of K Street completely and make our reps work for US again. We need to be sure no one is on the take or on the make. No one can lie to us or take away our laws. The moment any of this happens, we need to swiftly pounce on the offender, get them to resign and get them out at the speed of light. NEVER AGAIN. We took our eye off the ball. Things were too good and we bacame apathetic. bush did all this because he was allowed to, just like Hitler.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:41 PM
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13. Polls don't lie, but Repuke programmed Diebold evoting machines STEAL
elections. Repuke OWNED and OPERATED evoting machines.

Kerry was ahead in the 2004 exit polls. He was so far ahead that Bush's speech writer had written his concession speech. Diebold and Blackwell worked their magic. They got all those "moral" voters to the polls......at the very last minute :eyes: Let us not forget the exit polling web site that went down for hours on election night 2004. Kerry was ahead when the site went down, when it came back online...the idiot was ahead. They won't CARE what anyone thinks if they win when polls show they lost. Polling people are CORRUPT. It's true. I heard a repuke caller on C-SPAN'S WJ this morning say that. It must be true. Polling companies are corrupt. (that will be this year's lie.:eyes:

Honestly. These people don't CARE what their election thievery looks like. They didn't care in 2000, they didn't care in 2002 and they didn't care in 2004. They won't care in 2006 and 2008 either.

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