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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:38 PM
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HuffPo Kerry post: Support the Patriot Project, stop chickenshit attacks
I like that one. It's very direct.

The Patriot Project has an incredibly important and concise mission. "Freedom of speech and the right to dissent are cornerstones of our democracy. The Patriot Project will defend any man or woman, regardless of party or affiliation, who is attacked or defamed and whose patriotism is questioned simply because they exercise their rights as Americans. This is our mission."

That's pretty damn fundamental in itself to who we are. But there's a human face behind it. The fight is intensely personal to me. Veterans are running for office all over our country. A lot of them got interested in politics as part of my campaign, and some got involved in Wes Clark's race. Some of us had disagreements for thirty five years -- like me and Jim Webb, we didn't see eye to eye over the war we fought in. But no matter where we came from, something much bigger now brings us together -- we're all a band of brothers now. When I got off the phone with Patrick Murphy after the chickenshit attacks on his military record, something felt awfully familiar and it got me pissed off. I care about these men and women. They've got guts and they've got brains and they've got heart and I'm telling you they will change the character of this pathetic Congress, and I'm boiling mad watching people who didn't serve attack those who did because they can't win a debate on the merits.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-kerry/will-you-fight-with-them_b_31937.html



Yeah, what he said.

I really like this one. It's clear as a bell. (So, what is the word score on this one: High school, US Navy, ahm, Republican and other pre-schoolers? What? Every time I post a Kerry thing the language police come and tell me he's too high brow and smart for the room. So, what is the verbal score and ed level for 'chickenshit' anyway. Thanks!)

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:56 PM
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1. All very well and good
But when he gets to the Floor, he'll just delve back into Senate-ese
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:59 PM
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3. I disagree, but even so, Senate out till 11/14/06
So your point is moot to the discussion of stopping Dem Vets from being smeared by professional liars paid by rich bastards from Texas. (Thanks for playing though, we do have lovely parting gifts.)
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:00 PM
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4. There is a time and place for some words and a time a place for others.
Changing a word or two does not change the meaning or the anger behind it. Tell me, what senator do you know who chooses to speak in slang terms on the senate floor?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:03 PM
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5. Besides Allen, and his stuff is all memorized
on account of the fact that he is a bona fide, genuine idiot and can't be trusted without a script. Honestly, I swear he drools too!
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:22 PM
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7. None. But the VP's done it, IIRC.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:58 PM
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2. Well, he is telling the truth, they are as he says.
This is a good thing to support also. Democrats need to build up their resume on security and defense matters and if we don't stop allowing these chicken... to gain ground based on intimidation and lies then we will never overtake the Repubs and they will continue to smear those that fought bravely for our country.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:56 PM
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6. Couldn't have said it better. The Liars are despicable! The GOP
Senators (Allen, McCain) are not much better.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:24 PM
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8. Scores at 7th grade, smartypants! WAY TO GO JOHN!
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 04:26 PM by elehhhhna
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level:
7.18

http://resources.aellalei.com/tools/writer/sample.php

BTW, since we posted the original analysis, he's been dumbing down and punching up. Coincidence?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:17 PM
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9. Oh, damn. Still too high for republicans.
Well, at least he's working his way down to their level.

(As long as it's only the way he phrases his political rants - I kind of like the college-educated Kerry, myself.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:39 PM
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14. Wind Surfing is ALWAYS COOL! Especially since Chimperor can't ride Horse
on his "Pig Farm Ranch!" :rofl: one has to have a sense of humor...or one would go in back yard and end it all. :nuke:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:34 PM
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19. Obviously he had a set-to with someone like me
Senator Kerry, sir, you are too wicked smart for the room. You can't use words like obliterate and obfuscate because most people don't know what you are saying. Please, in the future, when you compose your speeches, think of me and write accordingly. The mental gymnastics wear me out.

Much thanks!

Tay

Better?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 07:58 AM
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24. Has that high horse carried any Dems into the WH or Congress lately?
Didn't think so.

One has to meet people where THEY are. Get out more, look at middle and lower class America -- heck, evaluate the smarts of upper0class Americans, to--then try to channel some pragmatic reality. Please. If JK can, we can.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:46 AM
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23. At the rate he's going, he could make a great DUer. heheh
.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:20 PM
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10. Yay! Kerry! You tell 'em..
"Chickenshits" for real!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:25 PM
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11. Hey! Who is this guy and why didn't he run for President?
Yes, I'm picking on Kerry, so sue me. While I love this and am behind him 100% I can't help but wonder where all this tough talk was in 04'.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:27 PM
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12. Smothered by Bob Shrum and Mary Beth Cahill
Who will never be within 1000 miles of a Kerry candidacy ever again. The man learns from his mistakes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:41 PM
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15. BUT...they were HIS CHOICE...and it's not like the guy is "CLUELESS!"
He's been "around the bend" for years in the Senate...he knows who the good folks are...he thought they were "good folks." He was kind of "out of it" and didn't get how Clinton won with Carville and Begalla? Really? He wanted the "kinder and gentler" Campaign. He got it...:shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:45 AM
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22. That's not what happened.
Clinton won in 92 because the sneate and congress beat the crap out of Bush1 for four straight years.

Kerry won, but thanks to Clinton collapsing the Dem party infrastructure since 1997 and his man McAuliffe ignoring election fraud for four years, the votes Kerry earned couldn't be counted.

And Kerry won even with the last Dem president spending four years PUBLICALLY supporting Bush2 and his policies. Big difference from 1992 where Clinton was fortunate to be running after four years of IranContra, BCCI and Iraqgate investigations against Bush1.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:41 AM
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21. As presidential candidate, OTHERS are supposed to play hitman as Kerry's
doing here.

Did you ever hear Bush take on attacks against him? Nope. He had Giuliani, McCain and Dole show up almost every night to defend him and attack Dems.

Where were the bigname Dems to counter the bigname GOPs?

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:38 PM
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13. Tough Talk..."Chickenshits" .....disgusting....n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 07:59 AM
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25. Yes, they are disgusting, and the shoe fits them, perfectly.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:52 PM
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16. As an Ohioan, I say screw him, HE'S the chickenshit.
He failed to stand up to defend my voting franchise, and that of every Dem in every Blue district in my state. He bowed out when he should have fought. Anything he says or does short of curing cancer would be too little, too late as far as I'm concerned. He had a chance (AND the money AND the resources) to smack that Blackwell sonofabitch down two years ago, and he wussed out. Fuck Senator Kerry in the ear.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:19 PM
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18. What about the Ohio Democratic Party?
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 07:20 PM by ProSense
Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Every Vote Will Be Counted! – Updated 11/10/2004 – 11:30 a.m.

The Ohio Democratic Party shares Sen. John Kerry’s insistence that every vote be counted.

Here is where we stand in Ohio:

► After the Unofficial Results reported Nov. 2 – George Bush leads John Kerry by 136,483 votes.

► Provisional ballots will be counted.

155,000 provisional ballots have been cast and not yet been counted.

County Boards of Elections have until Friday to verify the eligibility of those who cast a provisional vote. Counting will begin, Saturday, November 13. County Boards have until. Dec. 1, 2004 to certify their vote totals and report them to the Secretary of State.

► Two Democrats and Two Republicans sit on each County Board of Elections.

Tabulations of the votes will be done in a bi-partisan manner. Only if there is a tie vote on the board does the decision go to the Secretary of State.

► Overseas absentee ballots have not been counted.

Overseas Absentee ballots by civilians may have been received by County Boards of Elections by Nov. 2 that have not yet been counted. The Boards of Elections will count those votes.

Overseas absentee ballots by military have until, Friday, Nov. 12 to arrive and be counted by the Boards of Elections in the final total.

► 93,000 punch cards were cast, but a vote for president was not counted.

The votes were not counted either because the voter voted for more than one candidate or did not vote for a presidential candidate. These ballots will be reexamined if there is a recount.

Ohio has a uniform, statewide system for recounting punch card ballots. Hanging chads and dimpled chads are treated uniformly throughout the state.

► Examination for errors going on in all 88 Ohio counties.

A Vote Error on Election night gave George Bush 3,893 more votes in a Franklin County precinct than actually cast for him. That error was found by comparing the unofficial abstract of votes casts by precinct to votes for each candidate. Officials in all 88 counties have been contacted and requested to review for a similar error.

Lawyers volunteering for Kerry in Ohio are collecting detailed data from the counties to ensure the all eligible voters were allowed to cast a vote and have that voted counted.

► No Ohio County used Diebold Electronic Voting Machines (See Press Release Below)

Ohio did not use modern electronic voting machines in this election. Six counties use an older form of electronic voting, which has a means of verifying the accuracy of the vote. In 69 Ohio Counties, punch card ballots were used.

► Recount – In Ohio a recount is automatic for statewide election if difference in the vote is within 0.25% of the total votes cast.

For a recount is the presidential race, this is probably about a 19,000-vote margin between Kerry and Bush.


Only a losing candidate can request a recount. A recount may always be requested regardless of the closeness of the race. The recount is requested by the losing candidate. The request for a recount must be made within 5 days of the official announcement of the results by the Secretary of State.

The fee for a recount is set by each Board of Elections and may be between $5 and $10 per precinct. You can limit the recount to specific precincts. The cost is deposited by the person making the recount request at the time of the application based on the number of precincts requested to be recounted. The entire recount and contest procedures are outlined at ORC 3515.

more...



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 08:01 AM
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26. I feel your pain.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:08 PM
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17. Kick!
:kick:
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:25 PM
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20. This Ohioan says, Tell it like it is Senator!
Keep fighting. Those who have paid attention know the battle may have changed venues but you've been at it consistently.

BTW, this whole idea of a President/Presidential candidate being too smart is ludicrous. I for one, miss the days when the President was smarter than I was. Logic like that is how we ended up with *!
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