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Thu Jan-26-06 01:10 PM
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I Understand Completely Now. |
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Bush has used 9/11 as an excuse for everything. Quite frankly, that tragedy saved his ass and since then, he's frequently stated that everything has changed since 9/11. The world is a different place since 9/11. It's been his reason for usurping Congress and breaking the law.
During his mess of a press conference this morning, Bush puffed up his chest and declared that he didn't get a warrant, didn't go to the FISA court because the law was written in 1978 and is inadequate - because "the world is different now".
So I get it. I get it completely. The Constitution of the United States; the document this man has sworn to uphold, means nothing to him. Since it was written in 1787 it is inadequate because "the world is different now".
Bastard.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:11 PM
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1. does it make you wonder |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:11 PM
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2. There is very little that makes me wonder . . . |
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. . . that is wasn't MIHOP
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:15 PM
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911 was mihop, then what else was, and what else will be?
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:23 PM
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19. Oh it's much more than MIHOP |
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Go to http://www.informationclearinghouse.info and watch the film "Loose Change." It's a good documentary on 9/11. Not too over the top and is very basic of facts and question's. Check out http://www.reopen911.org
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:25 PM
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:33 PM
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30. Thank you for the info, I'm already convinced, but I'm going to get the |
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movie for my friends and family..
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:59 PM
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37. My apolitical coworker gave me a copy |
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of "Loose Change". It is making the rounds-and made my apolitical coworker ready to march and do whatever he needs to to get these people out of office!
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:13 PM
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4. LIHOP is sufficient, if not total incompetence. |
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I'd have no problem with incompetence as an explanation were it not for the extremely weird coincidence of the PNAC Pearl Harbour statements. Even then, I'd be willing to accept incompetence... in the absence of the 9/11 investigation stonewalling.
It's not outwith the bounds of possibility that PNAC don't understand the Internet very well at all.
EDGE, me dears. USE.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:14 PM
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you don't need to wonder. MIHOP or any other unknown doesn't change the ugly manipulation, in itself plenty evil enough for utter condmenation.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:55 PM
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I used to think it was LIHOP but clearly it was MIHOP. Bastards.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:13 PM
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3. And that means Treason. n/t |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:13 PM
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5. Careful, Or You Might Be Called A Crackpot... |
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King George would Never do something like that. How dare you accuse our leader of this. :-)
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:15 PM
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8. Recommended...this is their argument for everything |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:18 PM
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12. How About Bush's Illegal, Warrantless Spying Changed Everything |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:22 PM
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18. I wish that was our only problem |
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I want the moving eye. That is perfect. I know that was Kef's sig but did you make the eye move? It's great!!
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:25 PM
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21. He started it before 9/11 |
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And google Abramoff and Mohammad Atta.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:25 PM
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22. sElection 2000 changed everything n/t |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:16 PM
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9. He has told one myth after another. And used fear to get people to |
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Edited on Thu Jan-26-06 01:17 PM by applegrove
act (vote)against their own self interest. And then he uses the tools of a sociopath (bush is just the patsy) to keep the opposition from any valid information.
But it isn't working. Dems & the USA are getting wise. More discerning.
He was using myths and GOP wedges long before he was elected president.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:25 PM
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24. He was talking about going into Iraq in 1999 |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:37 PM
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32. 1998 PNAC letter to Clinton |
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Demanding that we invade and conquer Iraq. Clinton said no, and that sealed Al Gore's election fate. It also sealed the fate of 3000 americans on 9/11, 2300+ of our soldiers in Iraq, and countless tens of thousands of 'others', all of whom would die as a consequence.
War criminals every last one of them and everyone who has worked so diligently to facilitate their crimes.
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Thu Jan-26-06 02:55 PM
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39. Yes and the neocon machine decided on gays as a wedge issue. |
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And big oil funded the beginings of a fundamentalist & evangelical christian movement that put "humanists" or no religious social activists... LIBERALS ... as an evil like no other.
This rattle and role for power has been going on for a long time. Perpetual war had to wait until certain groups actually got more power. Delay, Bush & others converted to Christianity instead of hot-tubs and cocaine - in the early 1990s.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:16 PM
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10. Thank you for making that point, out loud! |
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It has been reported (ok, questionable source and all)that he has said that the Constitution was just a god damn piece of paper. Do we need any more proof that he feels that way than that speech this morning?
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:17 PM
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11. we need a new investigation into 911 absolute proof now exists |
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that world trade 7 was an inside job. For anyone who has the video Confronting the evidence given out by reopen911.org go to chapter 7 and watch wt7 North side. 1 second before the collapse I counted 50 small black puffs, squibs,of detonation smoke., ITS ABSOLUTE PROOF..No wonder Tom Ludicrous Kean wouldn't touch that explosive evidence in the official 911 Whitewash report. Please DU-ers don't blow off this stunning find. it would make a great issue among many for the Nov elections if we even have elections this year...martial law is just an attack away and remember Iran goes off the US.Dollar soon................
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:27 PM
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25. There was also a CBS documentary that never aired |
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It was supposed to be a French documentary following firefighters around. Sometimes now I wonder if it was more than a coincidence of them being there. There's a scene in this documentary (that turned into one about 9/11) and in one part it shows two firemen talking about bombs going off.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:32 PM
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29. CBS did air a 2 hour special based on the Naudet videotape |
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want to see it...I"d have to search for it but I watched it again about 4/5 weeks ago. Firemen,EMS workers, police,citizens all report hearing explosions. Yet Ludicrous kean refused to allow any explosive testimony on the record. We need to drive home the point,911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB..WE WANT A NEW INVESTIGATION !!!
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:18 PM
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13. 9/11 DIDN'T CHANGE EVERYTHING! |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:20 PM
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14. Listening to Alberto Gonzales .. |
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a bit yesterday, 911,911,911,911 ... bla bla bla .... in twisting their defense on the illegal wiretapping ...... they all use it, as if it's some 'feather' in their cap now to get away with anything they want. These people are Evil. Peace.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:21 PM
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15. and he says he doesn't want to change it because it would alert the enemy |
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". . . my concern has always been that in an attempt to try to pass a law on something that's already legal, we'll show the enemy what we're doing." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060126.html
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:23 PM
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20. like the enemy doesn't know they're being tapped! eom |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:28 PM
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26. If they've seen spy movies they know |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:22 PM
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16. The Constitution means nothing |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:54 PM
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35. Chimpy says its 'just a goddamned piece of paper' ...history |
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:22 PM
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17. And here I thought he said |
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he valued the Constitution.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:30 PM
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27. IN RESPONSE - here's what we ask: |
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how many people were killed and injured over three years simply because they took Merck's Vioxx? (more than 186,000) how many people died in car accidents lin 2003? 42,600 in 2004? 42,400. in 2005? about the same. How many people died from medical malpractice mistakes in USA in 2005? 17,500 in 2004? 18,000 in 2003? 16,800. how many people died from domestic violence in 2004? Govt doesn't track it, so you have to extrapolate, but around 8,700.
One terrorist attack led to 3,000 deaths, with another 5,000 with severe respiratory disease beginning or in progress.
serious, preventable daily events over three years led to almost 500,000 US fatalities and serious life-changing injuries. and this asshole claims that 9/11 changed everything? BULLSHIT.
Anytime, anyplace that some GOP supporter tells you that 9/11 changed everything, educate the ignoramus.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:31 PM
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28. The Bill of Rights was passed by Congress in 1789 |
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I suppose he feels that is antiquated as well
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:34 PM
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31. Yes, the name of the game is to scare Americans into letting go of ... |
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The Constitution of the United States. If they can induce enough fear in the citizens of America they can disregard that last little obstacle standing between them and their goals.
Terrorism:
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
The definition of terrorism reads like the guidelines of the bush* admin.
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:46 PM
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33. Well right after Septembertheeleventh Commander Bunnypants |
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did say he it the TRIFECTA
Lucky me, were the words he used. I guess we 'Mericans weren't paying attention when he said it would be easier if this were a dictatorship, so long as ah'm the dictator.
Things weren't exactly going his way and the Consortium of Newspapers were about to release their results of the 2000 election recount they conducted, which showed that Gore won and bush stole. Senator Jeffords had switched parties and given the Democrats control of the Senate and his poll #'s were sinking fast.
And well whaddaya know, Lucky me, little did I know I would hit the trifecta
But I don't believe in LIHOP No siree, not me. I believe Pinhead** just got lucky :argh:
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Thu Jan-26-06 01:51 PM
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34. I don't remember the post I read, but I remember the words perfectly.... |
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"you will say ANYTHING or do ANYTHING to impose your will upon others"
Sums Bush up right quick, and all his sheeple followers too.
Such is my mantra now toward anyone who starts to spew anything about Iraq relating to 9/11, mushroom clouds, etc.
The post I read encouraged this as a response to BS, and the White House spews NOTHING but BS.
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Thu Jan-26-06 02:40 PM
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38. Thanks for all the responses everyone. |
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I didn't mean to post and run, got busy at work. :hi:
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Thu Jan-26-06 03:31 PM
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40. "It's just a goddamn piece of paper"!! Is what |
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Bush said about the Constitution.
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