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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:21 AM
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More Than 1000 Anti-War Protesters March On CNN In LOS ANGELES
Oct 28, 2006 4:54 pm US/Pacific

Protesters March On CNN For 'Pro-War' Coverage
(CBS) LOS ANGELES More than a thousand people marched on CNN's Hollywood bureau Saturday, calling for an end to the war in Iraq.

"To stop the war in Iraq, to bring the troops home, that is the major point," said Carlos Alvarez, a member of a student-based group that makes up part of the A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) Coalition.

The protesters, which included a handful of celebrities and anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, chose to march to CNN because they believe the network's coverage is too pro-war and too pro-President Bush, Alvarez said.

CNN used yellow tape to block protesters from the their entrance. They did not answer phone calls and their voice mail was full.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_301195755.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:24 AM
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1. Kudos to these activists! I bet we won't be hearing much more
about them, sadly.
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:37 PM
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32. Now someone do it to GOP contributors.
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 08:38 PM by liberaldemocrat7
People should protest outside of GOP contributors offices and call them so their voice mail systems get full and demand that the GOP end this God Forsaken war.

Actaully people can call these GOP contributors and not even have to show up in the streets and just fill up their voice mail saying "Get the GOP to end the war, or you lose my business forever and a day."

GE, Exxon/Mobil, Wendy's and Outback Steakhouse need some talking to.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:27 AM
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2. They did a march in Hartford, too.
ANSWER makes me sick, and I can't support them after their hijacking of the Washington march. But fortunately, there was no "FREE MUMIA!" this time, and most of the public will only see protest, and not the roots of the organization behind it. And while we're at it, can someone please convince them to stop the juvenile chanting about EVERYTHING?

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Nolo_Contendre Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:29 AM
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3. At least they are organizing something
Instead of just being an armchair critic.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:34 AM
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5. I don't understand this attitude. For YEARS, ANSWER
was the ONLY organization with the guts to protest the war and the stolen election in public.

And you object to "Free Mumia"?

Man.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:46 AM
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7. Hey, thank you for avoiding all proper context!
Did I say I object to a free Mumia? Did you see the march on Washington on television? Well, actually, almost no one did. But those of us who weren't able to attend were at least thankful CSPAN would be covering it. Instead, we got a three-hour FREE MUMIA rally, with virtually no mention of the Bush-Cheney travesty. You assertion that ANSWER was the "only" organization to protest the war probably would piss off many of the tens of thousands of people who showed up in Washington only to be ignored by the media while ANSWER took three hours of air time to promote themselves, "Free Mumia," and sing nursery-school chants every time a speaker took to the mic.

I'd be happy to discuss this with you, but not if you're going to turn my words inside out into something I never said.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:01 AM
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11. Those thousands of people had somewhere to show up
because ANSWER stuck their neck out. And yes, I did watch that march multiple times.

If you don't like them, start your own national organization. Start one that will comport with the narrow political prudishness that will make you feel more comfortable while the media continues to ignore you.

And, I haven't turned any of your words inside out. Apparently I'm a better reader of your posts than you are.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:06 AM
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13. Where did you watch the march? It was not televised in the United States
People were showing up in Washington with or without ANSWER. You have a star...do a search for the dozens of DU threads in which outraged DUers took time off from work, took substantial risks to march on the capital, only to be virtually ignored by the media while ANSWER chanted about MUMIA. Again, I'm very curious...where did you watch the march, on home video? Because I watched all three hours of CSPAN's coverage, and not one minute of it was devoted to the march. The camera was trained on the ANSWER stage the ENTIRE time.

I'm not going to do this...I'm not letting another snarkier-than-thou DUer pull this "I'm a better reader than you are" bullshit. Just read my words, comment on what I actually say, or don't bother. There is no need to MAKE UP what YOU THINK I said, when my words are right there for all to see.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:16 AM
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18. There were no video cameras in D.C. that day?
:wtf:

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:51 PM
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21. Oh, I'm sorry...
I thought that since I was specifically talking about CSPAN and television news coverage, that perhaps you might actually be addressing that point, too. Obviously I was mistaken.

It's great that people had video cameras, and that you apparently got to watch some of you and/or your friends' home videos repeatedly, but I don't know what that has to do with my post. There was no network or cable news coverage of the march, except for CSPAN, which devoted it's entire three hours to the ANSWER free Mumia rally.

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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:59 AM
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9. Other, better organizations objected to the war...
and other, better people, too.

Left-wing Rabbi Michael Lerner for one, and his growing interfaith peace movement, Tikkun Community, spoke out strongly against the war.

ANSWER banned him from speaking at events, because he didn't agree with their conspiracy theories 100%.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=385

ANSWER's divisive, juvenile antics prevented the peace movement from developing into what it should have been.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:07 AM
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14. Why do you hate Mumia?
:shrug:






;)

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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 09:27 AM
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38. Uh, cause he killed a cop?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:13 AM
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17. A lot of groups and people organized and spoke out against
the war. ANSWER drew the fire and brought the movement to national attention. In any large movement there is melodrama. It takes no skill to allow that to distract you. Skill is working around it and getting the action done anyway.

And I have to wonder at the commitment of someone who can say with a straight face "other better people".

These denunciations of ANSWER are petty and wasteful at a time when resources are few and deployment is everything. So is blaming them for whatever lack you perceive in the peace movement. If you don't like it, change it. But don't sit around putting down other activists in public. That's just disgusting.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:53 AM
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19. So which is it?
"For YEARS, ANSWER was the ONLY organization with the guts to protest the war and the stolen election in public."

"A lot of groups and people organized and spoke out against the war."

Both quotes from sfexpat2000.

---

More serious than the small contradiction is the major one. You seem to think Atman and I are doing a disservice by criticizing ANSWER, and yet you ignore the fact that ANSWER itself refuses to let certain other peace groups participate in peace rallies -- even when ANSWER is only one of many sponsors for the rally.

There are great people in this world. We've seen the likes of Gandhi and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Would ANSWER have banned them from speaking? Most likely.

The peace movement should be open to anyone who wants peace. That should be its only requirement. The peace movement shouldn't demand loyalty oaths; one shouldn't be required to support Mumia in order to oppose war. Everyone who opposes war should be welcome; Christian or Jew or atheist, college kids and waitresses and laborers and pacifists in the military. ANSWER drives away anyone who doesn't share their views 100%.

Sometimes I think ANSWER has done so much harm to the peace movement that I wonder if Rove is behind it.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:13 AM
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16. what i cant figure out is...
why it seems as if ANSWER is the one group that actually makes the marches happen.

i think the anti-war movement is fractured, which is a shame. Yesterday's march I don't believe drew as many protestors as the one i attended last september, but i am quite certain that more people are opposed to the war as it drags out for no apparent reason other than the continued death and destruction, and this thing about "winning."
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 04:46 AM
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36. ANSWER has a history of taking out permits in all available spaces
on likely days of protests to shut out other organizations.

I've been to about half a dozen of their protests and it's always four hours of speakers about every possible issue under the sun after which most people are too tired to even march. And all the press ever covers is the pro-Palestinian demonstrators, the anti-WTO demonstrators or the Free Mumia crowd.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:32 AM
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4. I will be protesting bUSH on Monday Nov. 6 in Dallas
Who will join me??
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:37 AM
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6. Please go to the TX Forum and ask that; you might get some
positive responses.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:57 PM
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24. I might take that bait. Where will you be protesting?
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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:48 AM
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8. Excellent
Excellent tactic as well to draw attention to the corporate propaganda organs that are criminally responsible.



K&R
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:00 AM
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10. I've always said they should go after the BROADCAST STUDIOS.
Take any protests or other civil disobedience DIRECTLY to the media whores!

Take back OUR airwaves!!!!!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:08 AM
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15. I've been advocating that for years
March outside the big studio windows of ABC, FOX and CNN. They are half the problem. At least half.

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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:24 PM
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20. A Nice Rally every day behind that NBC Today show window
one day for The Dixie Chicks, the next against the war, Make them close that curtain and be so noisy they have trouble doing their outside events. Then take it to ABC & CBS. It worked back in the 60's, it can work again
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. ooh, yeah yeah yeah!
and interrupting those outdoor live shots with Hey Matt!Tell the Truth!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:17 PM
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33. No angry yelling, but day after day of dozens in the crowd with powerful
anti-war signs.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:22 PM
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31. I've always said that, too!
I'm so proud of them..I just know it's the start of something we need to be doing exponentially..1st LA then on to Atlanta, D.C., NYC..
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:24 PM
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39. YUP!
No more bidness as usual!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 11:04 AM
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12. i was just
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 11:07 AM by barbtries
downloading the pictures i took yesterday. i was there with Military Families Speak Out, the orange county chapter. i was late - took the green line to the blue line to the red line and missed changing trains...and i got there just as the march was taking off down the street. Pat and i were in touch by cellphone but the crowd was too dense; we couldn't find each other. she had written in an email that MFSO was to march at the front, just behind Gold Star Families for Peace with Cindy Sheehan. So i dashed up to the front, and i saw Cindy but not Pat or the others in my party until the march had ended and the speeches begun.



Pat Alviso and her son who is in Fallujah with the Marines on his second tour over there



Cindy Sheehan



Ron Kovic
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 07:34 AM
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37. gotta love...
southern california's transit system.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:55 PM
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22. this is my dream come true
I want lots of protestors in front of influential news offices as much as possible.

End media circuses

tell the truth!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:15 PM
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25. jeez, I'll never pass you on the greatest page if I kick and VOTE 4u...
but some topics need good publicity... good stuff as usual kpete, you're a hard-working trooper. keep up the great OPs
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:35 PM
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26. Did they ransack CNN's building and overturn CNN vans?
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 06:37 PM by Phrogman
Because that might mean somebody's finally getting serious and I might have to buy a plane ticket back to help out.



PM
Philippines
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 06:49 PM
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27. I hope you're being sarcastic.
What would destroying property do, other than to look the anti-war movement look stupid and immature?

I don't know how they do things in the Philippines, but here in America we can protest in a civilized and respectable manner. You know, without "overturning CNN vans" or "ransacking" CNN's buildings.

:eyes:
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:03 PM
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28. Philippines has tossed 2 bad Presidents out of office, how you doing there?
thought so
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:13 PM
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29. We use democracy instead of coups. It's pretty nice.
We also don't use violence in our protests. Also pretty nice.

Overturning news vans and ransacking offices does nothing. Voting does. Watch us on Nov. 7th.

Stay in the Philippines.

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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:39 PM
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34. deleted
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 10:41 PM by Phrogman

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 07:18 PM
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30. Props to all these Activists!
It's about freakin' time the protest was taken to one of the main propoganda centrals. I don't think it's going to be the last. Atlanta, anyone?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:56 PM
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35. I gave away 1500 buttons and stickers in two hours
There were at least two thousand people there as I only reached less than half the people who were there. By the way, if anyone reading this wants me to hand out more at the next demonstration, buying my merchandise is a good way to fund the giveaways.

Click this graphic.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:37 PM
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40. Good for you, Cronus!
THanks!
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:41 PM
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41. Yes!
Time for Fox,ABC, Msn and who ever else are the Protectors of these liars
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