This will be the year of litigated elections. Know why?

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

Because the dems. will win. This will become the year that the media for the masses pays attention to all of the various problems of evoting, non-paper ballots, etc. Think 2000 sucked? Just wait until dems. dominate across the country, the repub. media machine works overtime (by working the media for the masses), and we have contested elections because of the dems. desire to usurp power by any means necessary.

2 recent examples: the voting article in Time and Chavez's connection to evoting machines is just priming the pump.

In case you didn't know (and most here do), Sludge is required reading in DC. All of the whores allow Sludge (and his minions) to dictate the metanarrative. Talk radio and cable just follow this silliness. And viewers lap it up--as if it resembles serious discourse.

Perhaps we'll have nothing taken from dems., but the stain of fraud will be there. The media, I have no doubt, will make the ambiguous, unfounded charges stick. Think about your own frustration over selection 2000 (and Ohio 2004). Think about all of the "non-traditional" media reporting on it and how each additional report angered you. Think about how few of us are actually aware of these stories. Now think about that same feeling across the country, except the narrative will be that the dems. robbed the American voters and stole the House (or if they don't win it, they tried to steal it). And O'Reilly, Hannity, Blitzer, et al will be beating that drum. The narrative of Gore trying to steal the election through the courts will pale in comparison to the voter fraud perpetrated by power-hungry dems.

It will be ugly.

[Little Star]

1. Their fall back plan! No doubt here. n/t

[aquart]

2. Fine by me.

Can't wait to hear all the arguments they ridiculed us for.

Can't wait for them to pass legislation outlawing voting machines. Go Republicans!

[helderheid]

5. I second that!

:hi:

[rucky]

7. One major difference

they have the power to successfully challenge what we could not. They won't intro any legislation - they'll just challenge the "questionable" elections, and go after the INDIVIDUALS allegedly responsible (not the machines themselves).

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

8. Yes!

And the media will comply.

I doubt we'll get to the root problem. For the repubs. the roort problem is their loss of power. The media will help them fix that problem, ironically by projecting a republican lust for power onto the dems.

Any problems inherent with the voting process will be lost on the scandal of the dems. trying to steal an election. All the rest will fall down the rabbit hole.

[rucky]

9. See Rove Playbook #47 - Dan Rather & AWOL Bush n/t

[aquart]

13. Thank you for your concern.

We will, of course, always fail because they are the Republicans and we are the poor foolish Democrats.

If we, and there are MILLIONS of us, cease to buy the media products, they will lose revenue and start selling off assets. If they want us, let them appeal to us. Otherwise, let them go hang. Or help them hang, whatever.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. If they protest the coming Dem victory with accusations of election

fraud, it's a one-time rodeo; they will be burning the voting machine strategy for themselves. Which may just mean that they are on to something else, some kind of totally new and heretofore unsuspected approach to stealing things.

There would actually be a silver lining of sorts to Puggy accusations of electon fraud. The whole enterprise of stealing elections is based on corrupting the system in such a way that it doesn't appear to be corrupted. Once they make the corruption visible, the there will be an immediate demand for reforms, and the reforms will neutralize their most effective methodologies, leaving them with only the old standbys like voter suppression & ballot-box stuffing.

[grasswire]

4. yes, absolutely yes

The M.O. is Rove's. Win through election chaos.

We can expect trickery, thuggery, infiltration, propaganda, intimidation, and all hell breaking loose because the more chaos there is, the more likely a Republican can prevail in the fracas.

The plays are already written. The propaganda has already begun.

[grasswire]

6. and that is why there must be NO CONCESSIONS

Democrats must NOT CONCEDE. NO, No, No!!

[Dover]

10. Regardless of who 'wins', the e-voting issue must remain a priority.

We cannot have an unreliable voting system......PERIOD!

It is vulnerable to abuse by ANY party.

[hedgehog]

11. The Republicans have been using this ploy since 1960.

Nixon always claimed to have won the election but to have stepped aside for the good of the country. I've seen claims that there was more fraud in downstate Illinois than in Chicago and I've also seen the claim that Illinois did not matter to the outcome in the electoral college. I haven't the time to do the research. What fascinates me is that no one takes notice of the massive voter suppression that went on in 1960. How many blacks across the SOuth were denied the right to vote in 1960? I suspect if they had been allowed to vote, there would have been a landslide for Kennedy.

[KittyWampus]

12. Problem #1 Polls show Dems winning. Problem #2 Diebold= GOP

Problem #3 reports already show vote flipping FROM Democrat TO GOP