RW Says John Kerry makes fun of troops. Kerry Responds

[TayTay]

The RW, lacking any issues that actually work for them in this election season, have decided to pull quotes out of context and make stuff up about Democrats. (Again, sigh!) The Republican Noise Machine, oddly enough, hasn't said a word about the story in the NYTimes yesterday that talked about weapons that were 'lost' in Iraq and may now be in use against our troops over there and can't be traced because we never recorded the serial numbers of these weapons. Bastids. Ahm, gee, I think that'a a greater outrage against our troops than pulling a quote out of context, but you know those wacky RWers.

Anyway, here is the response to the RW having another nutty because, ahm it's all they have.

Statement of John Kerry Responding to Republican Distortions, Pathetic Tony Snow Diversions and Distractions

Washington – Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry’s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:

“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.

I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”

[Parche]

1. bravo

Bravo President John Kerry 2008

[gully]

2. That is one KICK ASS statement.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Wow!

[TayTay]

3. Seriously, I really like that one.

I would have said something classless and tasteless, like 'Bite me, you lying friggin, no-good bastards.'

Then again, I'm not reserved and full of high-fallutin college words.

Where is my good friend with the word analysis. I have taken the pledge and am not going to be snarky. Ed level to read this one?

[Hulsey13]

4. Balls. Finally.

Finally a statement from a Democrat that isn't couched, coached, or coddling. The truth is on our side, and it's way past time that we began to wield it like a weapon.

[seabeyond]

9. finally??? two years of this shit from kerry, not finally n/t

[Hulsey13]

42. I'll stand by my "finally" comment.

I agree, John Kerry has come out swinging over the past two years. But it seems like he takes a swing, connects, then back pedals to "explain away" the inevitable right-wing spin.

I want him to keep hammering the simple facts, and not let up. I still believe that we have right and truth on our side.

[wisteria]

5. Alright Senator Kerry!!!

Good comments. Take that you right wing slim.

[chat_noir]

6. You Tube video: Before You Enlist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkkdoDOIJM


rate it up!

[DUyellow]

7. where was this in 2004

[seabeyond]

10. 2004 is different from 2006. simple enough. this is progression n/t

[ginnyinWI]

17. it was a mistake.

The mistake they made was that they thought the truth was out there already and to bring up the attacks would only spread the misinformation. Kerry now acknowledges this. People are always basing campaigns on the last election, and sometimes they just aren't appropriate enough. I hope this new, more aggressive strategy fits this election well enough.

[WinstonSmith4740]

8. LOVE the statement...

But where was THIS John Kerry when we needed him, let's say in October of 2004? Y'know, the John Kerry who said on Bill Maher's "Real Time" that we have to be ready to "keep a boot up the ass" of these slime merchants.

As a woman, it truly, truly pains me to say this, but the three WORST presidential campaigns I've ever seen run were Dukakis in '88, Gore in 2000, and Kerry in '04. And the thing they had in common is they were all run by women. I honestly think they didn't (at least those three didn't) have the killer instincts you need to run a campaign today, especially if your opponent's last name is Bush. When you've got a candidate that can take his/her opponent apart in the brains category, you've got to let them do it. I always felt that both John Kerry and Al Gore were being muzzled by their campaign managers, who obviously thought the "swift-boating" and dissemination of right wing lies would just go away by themselves.:rant:

[ginnyinWI]

12. You may have a point there.

And I'm a woman, too. You have to be unremittingly aggressive to wage a killer campaign, and men simply are, on average, more aggressive than women. It's the ONLY main difference that researchers have been able to document about the differences between male and female personalities.

[seabeyond]

13. gore and kerry won, so i dont see them as the "worse", firstly.

secondly the obvious............2004 is not 2006. different time, different event, different attitudes thru out the nation,.... reception different today than yesterday

post like yours, for me, suggestions lack of insight

as much as it would have been nice to hear this kerry in 2004..... we as a nation werent there. only the small percentage of us on these political boards would be hoorahhin' this

[blm]

24. Gore and Kerry won. The DNC run by Clinton's men failed to secure election process

so the votes earned could be registered and counted.

The RNC won those contests - Bush and Rove didn't - the contests were won by the RNCs massive vote suppression, purged voter rolls, and vote stealing that occurred every day of the four years BETWEEN elecion days.

Gore and Kerry won. Bush lost. The RNC stole both because of a collapsed Dem party infrastructure that did not counter the RNc's tactics for the four years they were charged with doing so.

[Nostradammit]

39. "Katrina foreign policy" would have made no sense

in October of 2004, know what I mean?

[Hepburn]

11. Sen. John Kerry...

....:yourock: I just wish to hell that you had stood up to those lying bastards in the 2004 campaign like you are doing now!

Keep on keeping on, Sen. Kerry. And and a huge "thank you" for calling out those lying assholes and bullies. Just a bunch of chickenhawks.

[rudy23]

14. Kerry's figured out the Rove playbook. Webb too, it sounds like.

Never retreat. Never let these attacks put you on the defensive.

View every attack as an invitation to launch 5 more attacks on the other side.

Every time one of our guys is attacked, he has an audience, waiting to hear his response.

The American people are looking for people WHO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE ASSHOLES.

When we stammer, and apologize, and placate the domestic assholes, it looks to the voting public, that we are incapable of handling the assholes overseas who want to kill us.

Simple.

[seabeyond]

18. Kerry's figured out the Rove playbook............. YES n/t

[ginnyinWI]

20. I loved how Webb handled that accusation about his book.

He was right back in their faces the next day--and the media soon added more information about his writing and now he's up in the polls. :) This is the way to get media coverage--they love a dog fight.

[adamuu]

48. well said n/t

[NavyDavy]

15. I hate non vets who sit there and think they know what combat is

truly like - arm chair commanders

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

16. Is this an actual Kerry quote?

As in, these words actually came out of his mouth or can be read on his website?

If so, WOW.

[TayTay]

21. It's on his website

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=33

Somebody must have said it. either that or they got hacked.

[dmallind]

19. This is made up right?

Maybe I'm a bit slow but I seriously doubt this is a real statement from Kerry. It seems like most posters are treating this as genuine. Perhaps they have better developed senses of irony than I do.

I'd love to be wrong, really I would. But this doesn't sniff like a Kerry statement at all. Is this a subtle joke everyone is in on and pretending to be serious or has the Senator actually found some cojones?

[TayTay]

22. Again, it's on his website

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=33

Maybe it's that evil Kerry clone that they let out just for Halloween.

[dmallind]

25. Posted before the website link was there but....wow

Like I said - happy to be wrong. That just put Kerry up a few points in my book for sure. Still not my fave candidate for 08 but hell if he keeps this up he might just be able to persuade me otherwise.

I'll be mogadored - a high profile Dem with a much-needed mean streak. Happy days are here again. :D

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

26. I know this won't be popular here, but

It's unusual for a senior statesman like Kerry to refer to someone as "doughy," whether they have it coming or not. I DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T APROPOS, BUT IT IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL.

That's a remarkable quote, for sure.

[TayTay]

28. Somebody found a thesaursus

Porcine has been reserved for KKKarl. (Ahm, that was used in a prior Press Statement from Kerry on something awful, stupid and offensive that Rove said. I can try and find it if you like.)

[ginnyinWI]

23. here's more on the subject

From JK's website:
http://www.johnkerry.com/news/articles/newsarticle.html?id=69

An article about the new aggressiveness from yesterday.

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

27. The most stinging barbs are evidently attributable to a Kerry aide

Which sounds about right.

NOW things sound right again.

[blm]

29. Kerry's been attacking GOPs like this in defense of Dem vets all year long.

Just as other Dems should have done in 2004.

ANY time a vet has ever been attacked politically for DECADES, Kerry has been the first to defend them - he should have been able to depend on more Dems to do the same for him in 2004 - few did, most didn't want to expose themselves to the smear machine. They won't sit silent again.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

37. Hard to believe, huh?

One of the fiercest rebuttals I've ever heard from a Democrat.. :thumbsup:

Kerry would be president today if he acted like this two years ago.

[seabeyond]

30. kicking. cause all should read, as so many attack kerry for

speaking out onanother thread

[WI_DEM]

31. Excellent!

[Island Blue]

32. Give 'em hell Johnny!

:kick: K & R.

[texasleo]

33. nice

[The Backlash Cometh]

34. Katrina foreign policy. Ha.

[verse18]

35. Rangel smacks down Cheney-

Kerry smacks down Snow, Limbaugh and the chicken hawk administration.

Now this is the kind of shit I like to see. Truth tellers taking a position of strength. LOVE IT, LOVE IT.

[Joe Chi Minh]

41. Float like a butterfly, sting like a WHOLE SWARM OF BEES!

[RedEarth]

36. Bravo....take the f...... gloves off and keep them off!!!

[wiggs]

38. Like it! Way, way past time...but I'll take it now. More please, and

while you're at it, revive the "biggest bunch of crooked liars" line.

[Joe Chi Minh]

40. Underestimating the intelligence of the average serviceman and

service-woman has always been an Achilles' heel of these neocons, as attested to all too clearly by their treatment of them in Iraq and when they return. Nobody but the neocons believe they've ever support the troops.

They've probably turned a lot of young men and women, not normally very interested in politics, into fierce, life-long Democrats.

[kirbyenthusiasm]

43. i just wish this had been him in 2004

he was so difficult to support on his own merits during the election, in my opinion. I was a Dean supporter, I wanted someone who would vocalize all the distrust and idiocy of Bush. This is the kind of candidate that would've gotten my attention in the primary.

[Disturbed]

44. Is this the actual statement that J. Kerry made?

"I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq." - Senator John Kerry

If so, it is a direct slam on Busholini.

[Seabiscuit]

52. The problem is, Kerry botched his delivery...

Kerry apparently meant it as an insult to the Bush administration for "not doing their homework" before invading Iraq.

If Kerry's original quote read, as you stated: "You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq" then it would be pretty clear he's talking about Bush, et. al.

But that's not what is being reported. What's being reported is that Kerry originally said: "You end up getting stuck in Iraq".

That can just as easily be construed as telling the troops that if you don't do well in school you end up in Iraq - implying, according to Bush and his Repukes that he's saying the troops that end up in Iraq are stupid.

According to the MSM, Kerry botched his delivery and actually said "you end up getting stuck in Iraq" instead of what he intended to say, "you end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq" : http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/01/kerry.remarks/:

A Kerry aide told CNN that the prepared statement, which had been designed to criticize President Bush, "was mangled in delivery."

Kerry was supposed to say, "I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq."

[iilana X]

45. Desperate lying f*ckers.

Good for John Kerry. Strong words and no apology.

I'm not apologizing either. Bush is a lying coward who doesn't give a sh*t about our military. He can go &*^(% &U(*&(*!

[mom cat]

46. He seems to have found his voice!

[Terri S]

47. from Keith Olbermann's newsletter....

Already sick and tired of the nonsense accusations about what Senator John Kerry meant... ?

Watch Countdown tonight...

And look for Keith's SPECIAL COMMENT tomorrow.

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heads up everyone!!! This should be good!!

[MethuenProgressive]

49. Transcript please of ORIGINAL Kerry remarks that caused this?

I'd appriciate seeing all of what he said the other night. Not just the clipped part, but what was said immediately before that.

Thanks in advance

[Seabiscuit]

53. See post #52 in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2525320&mesg_id=2535647

[_dynamicdems]

50. Keep kicking Senator!

We have your back!

[MalloyLiberal]

51. Video of press conference

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bGwc-9pmmbM