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Tue Oct-31-06 04:38 PM
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Kerry Gaffe was a PURE GIFT .... |
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Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 04:51 PM by Sensitivity
TO THE NATION!
However Kerry's words are interpreted or miss-interpreted, a valid and important point is made that will help energize the base and move the middle:
The Puke interpretation "Military for the Uneducated": "Don't focus on your education and you will get trapped into Military Service."
Points out the fact that the stupid Iraq War has driven volunteering down, down, down; Rumsfeld is lowering academic and moral admissions standard; recruiters are engaged in con-jobs to trap high-school and college drop-outs into signing-up.
The Kerry interpretation "Botched joke about Bush's habit of not studying":
"If you don't get into habit of serious study, if you don't do you homework, you could end-up doing something really dangerous, like declare war on a country without reason or understanding about what you are getting into."
Points out that the Republican congress is lead by a dolt who thought he could be the "decider" without studying the issues or understanding the world in which we live.
Either way, Kerry returns the focus to the Iraq War. That's the last thing Congressional Republicans want to talk about. Watch them squirm to avoid commenting on Kerry's statement!
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:39 PM
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1. That was what I thought initially, and Sharpton just said as much on |
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:39 PM
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2. Kerry said nothing that is not being said at the dinner table |
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Good thing the Bush regime drew attention to his "joke".
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:40 PM
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I just finished E-mailing Senator Kerry telling him not to take anymore of their bullshit-and thanking him...
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:41 PM
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4. It would help if some military guys would go to the barricades and support him |
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Clark, Murtha, Zini, etc.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:43 PM
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8. Kerry is a decorated military guy.... |
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despite what the Republican smear meisters have tried to say.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:50 PM
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15. Yeah I know but it would help to focus everything on Iraq nt |
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:41 PM
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5. Bush has scheduled a press conference this afternoon |
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to condemn Kerry's remark. So, it would seem they aren't avoiding it.
I don't know, this could be touchy. People know that the reasons for being in Iraq right now aren't exactly clear. Could be more attention on Iraq than the GOP would like. The Iraq war is very unpopular.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:46 PM
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11. true - and the more OTHER Democrats back Kerry by switching to speak |
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Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 04:47 PM by karynnj
about Iraq the better. Even when they don't defend Kerry, they can say as Carville did that Kerry mangled a joke - Bush mangled a war , because as Kerry said he didn't do his homework before it. (Carville also pointed out Kerry's military record and his 20 years of being a very good friend to veterans in the Senate. )
The point is to focus it on the war was badly planned and a mess.
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Wed Nov-01-06 12:31 AM
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33. Iraq is a disaster -- Dumbo's Indefensible Disaster |
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:41 PM
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insiders in the Democratic party are furious at Kerry. They didn't say who though.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:44 PM
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Both versions of Kerry's comments -- the intended and the actual -- are completely true.
Anyone who has a problem with that is an idiot and can just STFU.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:46 PM
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That's the classic "some sources tell us..." bullshit.
Till I see and hear another Dem step forward and express this, I'm not believing it.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:49 PM
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who are the "un-named sources"?
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Tue Oct-31-06 06:00 PM
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Good god, are we all such hothouse flowers, such shrinking violets? Run screaming when someone mentions that somebody MIGHT disapprove? Someone they won't even name?!
Damn, I hope we're made of tougher stuff than that.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:52 PM
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18. Leiberman is no longer in the Democratic Party... |
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Edited on Tue Oct-31-06 04:55 PM by Prag
The bulk media makes that mistake all the time.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:53 PM
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19. Al From, Joe Leiberman, Donna Brazille n/t |
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:55 PM
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:42 PM
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7. There is a BIG difference between: |
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1) Associating Bush* with his failed war, which happens every day in the news; and
2) Associating Kerry with the failed war, with the suggestion that he is disrespecting the troops (plays into 'disrespecting troops in Viet Nam days)
(Ya need to know I'm an old time Vietnam protester and marched against that fiasco. However, during election time, we don't need to alienate the undecided dolts who might not like Kerry much but are fed up with Bush* and want to send him a message by voting dem)
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:45 PM
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10. Liking Kerry will not determine LOCAL VOTE! It may hurt Kerry image, but |
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:48 PM
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If you guys want to discuss the Iraq FIASCO until November 7th 7x24, BRING IT ON!!!
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:50 PM
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16. I think the misinterpretation is helping more than the joke. |
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This evening parents will be huddled around the dining room table with the kiddies, saying..."see, we told you so.... now, go do your homework." :rofl:
I shit you not folks, I am in rural Ohio. We actually tell our kids this.
The republican spun this one in our favor.
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Tue Oct-31-06 04:51 PM
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17. Pray, what gaffe would that be you're talking about, our little hot- |
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:00 PM
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21. Could someone please tell |
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me what Kerry said originally to make some DUers TURN ON HIM?
Geezus! I'd like to decide for myself if Kerry "misspoke" had a "gaffe".."just needs to shut up his big mouth.. "
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:02 PM
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22. He's just saying what we're all thinking |
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:07 PM
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The RW seriously miscalculated this time. The Swift Boaters demonized Kerry back in 2004 and Kerry did not fight back then. They projected their faux outrage while questioned Kerry's military service to keep from having to debate the real issue, Iraq. They have no concept of learning from their mistakes because they refuse to admit them, like Kerry has. I'm sure they thought Kerry would again remain silent while being swift-boated instead of speaking out. They actually thought this shit would fly two years and almost 3,000 troops later. Silly, stupid repugs.
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:10 PM
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Kerry didn't screw up, he said what we all know to be true. Now we are talking about Iraq again and that's as it should be.
Julie
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:13 PM
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25. "bush's habit of NOT STUDYING" - that is a gem. Bring on the noise machine so |
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this can be discussed 24/7. There's plenty of material from bush's pretzeldential record.
...habit of not studying ... every person can relate to that phrase and recall a time they didn't study and the kind of hell they encountered as a result. Expanding that to the level of a president is frightening.
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:26 PM
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26. The Un-studied Decider! |
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:27 PM
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People need to understand this.
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:28 PM
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28. Not if it's interpeted (by the media) that he attacked our troops |
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rather than them telling the truth. Most people seem to accept what the media puts in front of them.
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Tue Oct-31-06 05:34 PM
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29. Then KERRY SUFFERS -- But our GOTV is better off. Iraq motivates DEMS! |
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Tue Oct-31-06 06:19 PM
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Kerry's comments put the Iraq war front and center in the campaign. A sure fire winner for the Democrats. A brilliant political move on his part.
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