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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:16 AM
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Link Needed:Racial %'s in US. Prison System

Need link to determine the % of Minorities in Prison .

It would help if the percentages are state to state as well.

Thanks for helping!
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:21 AM
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1. I'll look.
I believe the total prison population in the US is around 2 million of whom 1 million are Black. In a country where they (we!) represent about 11.8% of the population, Blacks make up around 50% of the prison population!

I'll be back with a link...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:27 AM
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2. Thank you so very much

My cousin is making a report for her last year in high school.

She said she read that more Whites are in Prison than Blacks and other minorities.

I could not believe that but wanted to make sure I was giving her the right information and could not find it on the web when I searched. :(
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:54 AM
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5. IIRC most of the people on welfare are white as well
many repukes forget that in the midst of their "welfare queen bashing.
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:25 AM
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16. Here's a couple of reasonable links. I see folks already gave some.
When your username is GoClark, your requests get taken a little more seriously (at least by me)!

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim02.pdf

On another topic, I think the general will be more in the public eye post mid-terms! At that point, the media has to attend to serious presidential candidates, of which the general is the one who strikes the most fear in those throbbing, black, pus-filled organs called GOP hearts.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:08 PM
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19. Thanks for the links! Still wishing and wanting
him in that White House.
Thanks for the important links1

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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:28 AM
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3. I can't help you with a link.
But i can give you some first hand exp. I have been to prison in North Carolina. Our state percentage for blacks is say 30% for the total population. While incarcerated 85-90% of prisoners were black. From some of my old friend still inside, they say it's changing and more hispanics are really showing up. Not sure on those numbers or rumors as the hispanic flood began just as i was getting out.

This large discrepancy in numbers is largely what got me taking blacks serious about being held down, and abused by the powers that be. i knew in my heart that something had to be wrong. There was no way 30% of the population committed 90% of the crime, as i knew tons of whites who were criminals. It just seemed that middle class whites just got a pass.

Sad fact here is it is all about poverty. The poor ones have to accept a public defender, who never does much defending. The best deal you ever get from a public defender is a plea for a lesser charge, or less time. Those with money to hire their own representation did infinitely better. Example, i had a good lawyer i paid for i had over 70 charges dropped, a bunch reduced and consolidated. I took 80+ charges and did 6yrs for them. Some one who would have had to use a public defender would still be locked up.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:37 AM
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4. Thanks for the post, I saw a program on MSNBC
about the Prison system in Los Angeles/CA and I think I could identify 6/10 White inmate.

6/10! I was shocked but not surprised.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:57 AM
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6. Prevalence of imprisonment in the United States
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 10:03 AM by Lasher
This is not exactly what you asked for. It's the percentage of US overall population, by race, who have ever served time in prison.

U.S. Department of Justice · Office of Justice Programs
Bureau of Justice Statistics


The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for

  • black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)

  • black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#prevalence


  • Edit:

    At yearend 2004 there were 3,218 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,220 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 463 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
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    goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:31 AM
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    10. Thanks so much for the links!

    This helps me to understand it so much more.
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    Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:34 AM
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    12. Glad to help. Hope your cousin gets an A
    :hi:
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    ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:06 PM
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    18. Don't You Want To Know Who The Other 2/3rd Are?
    The numbers don't even begin to add up to 100% although they cover blacks, hispanics and whites. Does that mean that two thirds of the people in jails are native Americans or oriental?
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    Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:34 PM
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    21. Excuse me for being a wiseacre, but:
    Why don't you just read Lasher's link and tell us the answer?

    (I read it. It's really interesting.)
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    Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:58 AM
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    7. Here's one for California
    http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=702

    Warning: pdf file

    I'll try to dig up some federal stats
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    goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:33 AM
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    11. Excellent link!

    Clear as a bell.

    Let's us understand that the Prison system is a business, a big business and Minorities are their "best customers."
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    Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:40 AM
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    14. I recommend everything put out by PPIC
    some of the clearest-eyed social researchers in the business.

    Their recent one on "California's Exclusive Electorate" is also very eye-opening.
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    goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:10 PM
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    20. Jed you are a gem! nt
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    Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:02 AM
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    8. Links that might help...
    Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 10:13 AM by Sapphire Blue
    Racial disparities in incarceration by state, 2000: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/statepopulations.html

    Incarceration is not an equal opportunity punishment: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/articles/notequal.html

    Research about Criminal Justice Issues: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/research.html



    If you look at males aged 25-29 and by race, you can see what is going on even clearer



    http://www.prisonpolicy.org/articles/notequal.html



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    goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:35 AM
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    13. As always Sapphire Blue, you are a real Drum Major for Justice
    Thank you so much.
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    Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:08 AM
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    9. More
    Here's an anti-drugwar site with some quick facts about drug prisoners and race:

    http://drugwarfacts.org/racepris.htm

    If you want to really dig, I put together these tables for you. You have to aggregate ages but it will give you everything you could possibly want to know (at least as of 2000). You can download this as an excel-readable file if you find the "download" tab in the upper-right-ish region of the page.

    http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=01000US&-ds_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U&-_lang=en&-mt_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_PCT017B&-mt_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_PCT017A&-mt_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_PCT017H&-format=&-CONTEXT=dt
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    ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:19 AM
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    15. The mother lode of criminal justice stats is the "sourcebook" at albany.edu
    http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/toc.html .

    Section 6 deals with incarceration, including state-by-state incarceration statistics
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    goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:03 PM
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    17. All of you are just amazing~ DU is such a fantastic resource nt
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