Kerry Supporters Want to Help Fix this mess?

[OzarkDem]

Here's a way you can help turn things around. Below is the link to two of the most popular mixed political forums in Ohio.

Why don't you spend some time doing damage control here. Good luck. You and Kerry owe it to us to get voters attention diverted to GOP corruption in this state so we can win...


http://www.cleveland.com/forums/open/index.ssf

http://www.cleveland.com/forums/politics/

I'll check in periodically to see how much success you're having. Thanks.

[WilliamPitt]

1. Or help even more

and ignore the fucking thing.

[Jawja]

2. Yes.

As long as DU is focused on John Kerry, the GOP media's attempt to make him the issue in the upcoming election succeeds.

The more the attention is paid to strawman Kerry, the less is paid to the Bush criminals and their failures across the board.

[OzarkDem]

4. If you're interested in defending him

do it to the people who want to keep the issue in the spotlight.

[Jawja]

16. I am not interested in defending Kerry.

I am interested in getting the issue off the front burner.

Are you saying that if I would rather see other, more important issues take center stage on DU right before the election as opposed to DU helping the GOP media keep the focus on Kerry as an issue, I am somehow defending Kerry?

I don't get the connection. :shrug:

[OzarkDem]

3. Voters won't

Here in Ohio, we live in the real world. Ohio voters are getting inundated with this crap while the news media is ignoring the real issues.

I'm sure you don't want to come off sounding childish and arrogant. This has caused a real problem.

You broke it, you fix it.

[WilliamPitt]

6. You're not going to fix it on forums

because forums are populated by people like us or Freepers. Period. Understand the medium; it's an echo chamber pissing contest in those places.

[OzarkDem]

10. In our area voters do read the forums

they may not post, but they read it.

The news media also reads these forums and responds when they see voters don't think the news is being covered fairly.

[flyarm]

20. then go post this on your forums over and over again because

this will do more damage to your state than anything Kerry could ever do!!

get your act together in Ohio!! Go out and speak about this! get this real info out to the people of Ohio..than all the bullshit!


October 31, 2006 at 06:38:04

Will a shocking new GOP court victory and Karl Rove's attack on Ohio '06 doom the Democrats nationwide?

by Harvey Wasserman and Bob Fitrakis

http://www.opednews.com

Will a shocking new GOP court victory and Karl Rove's attack on Ohio 2006 doom the Democrats nationwide?
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 30, 2006

COLUMBUS---With a major GOP federal court victory, the Ohio 2006 election has descended into the calculated chaos that has become the trademark of a Karl Rove election theft, and that could help keep the Congress in Republican hands nationwide.

Through a complex series of legal maneuvers, and now a shocking new decision from the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the GOP has thrown Ohio's entire process of voting and vote counting into serious disarray. The mess is perfectly designed to suppress voter turnout, make election monitoring and a recount impossible, and allow the Republican Party to emerge with a victory despite overwhelming evidence the electorate wants exactly the opposite.

The disaster in Ohio began immediately after the theft of the presidential election here in 2004. Though the majority of Ohioans are registered Democrats, the gerrymandered state legislature is overwhelmingly Republican. Soon after John Kerry conceded, it passed House Bill 3, a draconian assault on voter registration

more at:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_harvey_w_061031...

[flyarm]

18. Here in Ohio, we live in the real world..............

we all live in the real world..that is insulting!

and yes in the real world my co-workers were killed on 9/11 and i went to real memorials..in fact many many of them...so please do not fling "real world elite" crap,beause it is crap...

"I'm sure you don't want to come off sounding childish and arrogant."

if the shoe fits...

by ignoring all this bullshit..i am not sounding childish and arrogant..in fact adults ignore the ignorant and stupid bullshit!


"This has caused a real problem"

it is only a problem if you let it be..and if you want to clear this up..maybe you need to go volunteer..and then remind people of real problems..

Like almost 3000 dead soldiers based on lies..nothing but lies!

Like 650,000 dead Iraqi's..of which ,prior to Pissy pants starting his war of lies,..Iraqi citizenship consisted of over 50 % of its population under the age of 15..so that means pissy pants has murdered alot of children! a hell of alot of children!

now that's a real problem!!

Bechtel pulled out of Iraq yesterday..after 3 years of taking our tax money for reconstruction of the country we have blown to smithereens...and what have they re-constructed..well i would say not a damn thing since Iraqi's still have feces
( that be shit) in their water..they still do not have power for 24 hours a day..they have 60% unemployment..which makes for many empty hours in the day of a citizenship..and would make for a good militia army..wouldn't you say..as an adult ..i can figure out..idle hands are not healthy hands!

How about you look into DU and see what our soldiers have been exposed to..and when their gonads shrivel and they produce children with god knows
how many diseases..well the reich wing..would most likely even deny stem cell research to help the soldiers or their offspring...

perhaps you could go out and discuss that with Ohio voters..in real time..

check out this web site ..and see if any of "your" candidates are pictured here and have gotten contributations from the
"Kerry people"...http://www.johnkerry.com/

I know my senator is pictured and i know i have contributed...alot.....and I know ..my money went to many candidates in many states..and i am damn proud of how Kerry has gotten many candidates, in many states money they so desparately needed ..to even have a chance to take this country back to sanity..


why not spend your
time doing GOTV work and stop worrying about stuff you have no chance
of doing anything about..and do something that will have an impact!

Many dnc offices right now need people working the phones..or take some cookies or sandwiches .. for those doing the work..or volunteer to drive disabled or seniors to the polls so they can vote! that would be a very adult thing to do!


"You broke it, you fix it. "

on this one i would go nose to nose with you..i broke nothing..and Kerry broke nothing..pissy pants broke this nation, pissy pants broke his oath to the constitution and this nation, pissy pants broke many familes lives and hearts ( and yes we "elite in the northeast" were the first victims of the mother fucker in this white house..

and the only one i see that needs to make any appology to this nation, sits in our white house..because in my 54 years..i have never been so ashamed of my nation..of our so called leaders..and our people who would stoop so low to buy into this bullshit and pander to this bullshit.when the real criminals to this nation , to our soldiers, to our citizens..and to citizens all over the world he has put in graves....and most of all to our constitution..sleep in "our" white house..and are republicans in congress and the senate ..because they have not held anyone accountable..

not for 9/11 , not for this war of lies, not for the failures to even look for Bin Laden..you know the guy who killed the "Eilte in the Northeast"..( i would love you to sit with my neighbor, who lost her 24 year old son, the father of 2 babies..on 9/11 and tell her how elite she is!!)

Do not,
please tell others what they broke..and to fix it..unless you have stood up to this administration..and done something to take this country back..besides sit on forums on the internet.

I could list how many ways this administration and republicans owe all of our citizens an appology..but i believe if you care enough, it wouldn't take you but a few minutes to put your own list together..that would knock the socks off anyone you cared enough to educate!

The list I use ..is the names of my co-workers who were murdered on 9/11 and i hold the current resident of this white house mostly responsible for their deaths..many were young mothers,and fathers..brothers and sisters..sons and daughters ..they were our fellow citizens who were let down by their government..but they died doing their job..they died trying to save people..they died a horrible death..

and yes they were mostly northeast flight crew..and i sure would not call them "elite" i would call them my friends..my peers, my neighbors, and victims..of the total failure of this administration and this republican congress!

I for one,hold this administration and the republican congress responsible for the failures to my co-workers and their passengers and those on the ground who lost their lives because of those failures as well!

and this silly shit you have wrapped your head around.,is just that..silly bullshit!

go to a vet home and talk to returning Vets from Iraq..and you ask them what is important to them..

I have and it sure isn't this kind of bullshit!

So please..do not beg others to go fix a internet forum..go do some real work for taking your country back..

another words get off your ass and do something..

Kerry has gotten off his ass..and many peope who have worked for him and with him continue to work their asses off..and do not have time for a forum full of arm chair bullshitters!

get in the trenches..there has to be something you are good at besides forums..so go do it..can you ring a bell or knock on a door or answer a phone??

do it!

I am sorry ..i do not want to come off seeming nasty or condensending..but i am so tired of working my ass off to protect you , and many like you , and working to take this country back and make us a once proud nation again...

I work harder and have worked harder trying to take this country back since retiring than i did when i worked..some retirement..Huh?? but you know what..its my responsibility as an American..and it is my responsibility as a life long flight crew to see to it that when my co-workers and passengers/citizens of this country walk onto an aircraft..and take a seat..and listen to the O2 demonstration, and security proceedures..get real security....not
the bullshit you are being fed..

so if you want to swallow this bullshit..that is your right..but please do not tell others they are "elite" or all the baggage you are trying to pass off..because that is nothing but bullshit..not worthy of anyone's time!

do your homework,John Kerry has used this speech dozens of times..he made a mistake..but how many died for that mistake...he ommitted one word..

yes it was unfortunate..but you know what..he is tired,tired
because he works his ass off for this country every damn day!

why do you not hold pissy pants responsible for his words..oh i know..we don't critisize the moron who can't speak or even think cognitively ..and needs an IFB in his ear and the wizard of Oz telling him what to say...

Bagdad
fell yesterday..why are you not posting that over and over on your Ohio forum??
How is that for a mistake by fucking little lord pissy pants...

fly

[KharmaTrain]

19. Bravo

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

As Harry Truman once said..."if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".

Well stated!

:toast:

Cheers...

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. !!

:thumbsup:

[Habibi]

5. Honestly?

I think online forums mean diddly to the average voter.

[WilliamPitt]

7. Bingo

[OzarkDem]

11. When was the last time you were in Ohio?

I realize its easy for the Dem elite on the east coast to speculate on how things work here in the fly-over states, but the world here is different. And losing these races will have a very big impact on the future of our country.

Ohio has early voting going on right now. People are deciding who they're going to vote for and mailing in their ballots today. There is precious little time left to turn this around.

[WilliamPitt]

12. Plenty of times

PLEASE don't try to tell me how important Ohio is. I know. While you're at it, please refrain from attempting to defend the idea that internet forums move the pile. They don't.

[OzarkDem]

13. And you're wrong n/t

[WilliamPitt]

14. OK

Fire away then. Have a ball. When you come back with an ulcer the size of a car battery after wasting a day with only six days left, I'll buy you some Maalox.

[Bridget Burke]

21. There's that "elite" word again....

This Texan never considered Kerry an "elitist"--or Gore "wooden."

Ohio is your state--try not to let it get stolen again, OK?

[OzarkDem]

8. They mean a lot here in Ohio

they are very closely watched by local news media and are used to gauge public sentiment. They have a very real impact on how news is covered.

[marmar]

15. This issue is clearly much bigger in the blogosphere than in the world...

I'm at work, and not a person has mentioned it, and only one person is even vaguely aware of it....AND I WORK AT A NEWSPAPER!

[chill_wind]

17. That's strange. I could swear that's all I heard about non-stop

on the Kerry-bashing cable news media yesterday. Let's hope they freaking move along.