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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:23 PM
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If we allow the GOP to do this to John Kerry, we will be their bitches FOREVER. Period.
If members of the Democratic Party pressure John Kerry to make a fake apology for something he never said about the troops ... if they make him apologize to the Bad Student In Chief himself (George Bush, who BRAGGED in a graduation speech about being a bad student like he was PROUD of it) ...

... if Democrats allow the GOP and Karl Rove and Dick Cheney and the whole bunch of DRAFT DODGING CHIKENHAWK Beelzebubs in the West Wing to AGAIN besmirch the reputation of a decorated WAR VETERAN ...

THEN, my friends, we will be the GOP's bitches forever. They can do whatever they want to us. They can twist our words however they want, and paint us as unpatriotic terrorist-appeasers.

Don't let them do it. Don't encourage people like Harold Ford, who might as well be Zell Miller for how I feel about that little punk today.

DON'T LET THEM DO IT, or we'll pay for it forever. Karl Rove will be like the Andromeda Strain ... "we'll never be rid of it."
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:24 PM
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1. They can do whatever they want as long as we or our
candidates run scared all the time.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:24 PM
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2. the whole thing is so sickening. esp. ford agreeing with Bush!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:25 PM
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3. There are Folks Here Doing this Deliberately
Makes one wonder whose side they are on... not mine. Well... I have my list.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:28 PM
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7. Yup. Concern trolls have been out in force for months now.
I must admit though, I do enjoy the stench of their desperation.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:31 PM
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10. I Just Don't Want US DUERS
to get split over this. I want us to be strong before this election. I hope the mods get a lid on this.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:39 PM
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12. I think it's inevitable that some will...
we have to do the best we can... all we can do.

In the end we all know how the real "we" will vote. That's the most important thing.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:45 PM
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18. Playing whack-a-mole wherever I can on this. -eom
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:25 PM
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4. That is the WHOLE GAME. The want DEMS to bend over.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:26 PM
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5. THAT, I agree with.
I don't think there's anything wrong with opining that Kerry reallymishandled the statement, but demanding that he apologize for something he didn't say is possibly the worst thing we could do.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:28 PM
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6. Very well-said. Fuck bush AND any Democrat who doesn't come to the plate
on this one.

Not standing by Kerry is fucking disgraceful.

Redstone
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:30 PM
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9. Amen brother.
Ford, Tester, and Cardin will never have my support for anything.

Fucking cowards.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:41 PM
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14. I have seen the Ford quote but not Tester - do you know
where I can read/see it?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:28 PM
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8. Kerry should not apologize - he has nothing to apologize for
The rest of the Democrats should just shut up and let this story die a natural death. Or, perhaps they should watch Countdown from last night and go on the attack.

Even if we take back one or both houses of Congress, I have serious concerns that too many Democrats still won't have any spines.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:33 PM
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11. They did the same to Murtha - lied his plan into "cut and run" and then
made elected Dems back away from it for the past year.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:39 PM
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13. Dead on. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:42 PM
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15. and i am not good at being someone elses bitch. i am my own
bitch
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:42 PM
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16. Succinctly put.
Here, here.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:42 PM
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17. The Corporate Media needs to be thoughtfully regulated.
Most especially, we must have these HUGE Media Conglomerates broken-up into smaller, discrete units ... many of them on the local level. ;) Accomplishing this would not only serve our Democratic Republic well, it would encourage both creativity and diversity throughout the USA media outlets. :-)
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:46 PM
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19. CNN guy just said the GOP is gleeful the Democrats are bashing Kerry.
Well, to all you Democrats who are bashing Kerry and want him to get kicked in the balls by Karl Rove and his Smear Machine and just lie down and TAKE IT ... well, you've just made the GOP F*CKING GLEEFUL!

Thanks Harold Ford and the gang. Thanks a lot. Thanks for making me feel like I have to put on a T-shirt that says, "Hey, GOP ... I'm a Democrat! KICK ME!"

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:51 PM
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20. Let Kerry handle it. He's a big boy. Now go GOTV or get
trained as a poll watcher. JUST DO IT.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:57 PM
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21. I'm already a pollwatcher, and doing my GOTV calls. And volunteering in other ways
I'm just afraid that all my efforts will be in vain if we allow the GOP to manipulate the American public on this Kerry thing -- I feel we're at some sort of tipping point. If the Democrats let the GOP have its way on this one, we've allowed the Ultimate Evil Schoolyard Bully to completely take over, with no change of the good guys EVER winning.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:09 PM
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22. I saw a "UNIDOS Con Kerry Presidente" sign here in TX this a.m.,
but when I looked again, it had been Raptured!

I know what you're saying, but that JK "quote" is backfiring already.

Head down, nose to the grindstone. Less than one week to go. It's obviously not YOU I'd like to motivate -- kudos for your volunteer work -- but when you & I are poll watching Tuesday and DU is all aflame w/ inane "OMG" posts, I'm going to be hacked off, bigtime.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:55 PM
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23. Well, that's it. We WILL BE the GOP's bitches forever.
Our own Democrats, playing into the hands of the lying, manipulative GOP, forced Kerry to apologize for something he had no business apologizing for.

The GOP now KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt that all they have to do it lie about what a Democrat says, and the rest of the Democrats will turn and eat their own. We have been made fools today, ladies and gentlemen.

And I will never ever vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Love her husband, but I will never vote for her, even if she is the Democratic nominee. What she did to John Kerry today was low, vile and disgusting. After I get done with all my election day volunteering, I am drafting a letter to her, informing her that her playing ball with the lying GOP has lost her my future support.

And if Harold Ford Jr. thinks he's ever gonna run for higher office, that goes double for that little GOP-ass-kissing PUNK!

Howard Dean couldn't even muster more than back-handed support. I am disgusted with everyone but Keith Olbermann and Max Cleland.
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