Interesting quote from Sun Tzu from The Art of War

[Poiuyt]

"Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory."

Does it seem to you like Bush was one who fought first?

[pocoloco]

1. You'll have to check with Rove on that.

He's the Sun Tzu student!

[teryang]

2. In overthrowing the Republic, the illegimate prince creates...

...the outside threat to the state to use the natural instinct of the populace to come together against the enemy. Patriotism then overcomes the resistance to illegitimate government.

This is Machiavelli 101. The Roman Dictatorship was a greatly admired model. The only victory that is sought is the defeat of the Republic.