ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox and AP Defy Conyer's Request For Poll Data

[Jcrowley]

The theft of American elections is a media issue
by Andi Novick, Northeast Citizens for Responsible Media
October 31, 2006

The loss of our right to vote (or have it counted) is a media issue which is why you are all getting this email. I've talked a lot about the effects of media ownership consolidation on the destruction of democracy by permitting a few corporations to fail to report the essential information we need to be a self-governing people. Not only does the main stream media refuse to investigate and report on the impossible discrepancies between the 'official' count and the exit polls, but they are actively complicit in this fraud. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox and the AP own the exit polls and have defied John Conyers' request for the raw data, keeping that data secreted from even qualified independent researchers.

We are all trying to take optimism from the lead democrats have in the polls going into the election. Keep in mind that they had these leads in 2002, when the Republicans got themselves total control, and they had even greater promise going into the 2004 elections. If you are still not convinced of the massive fraud that is going on, you can look at my 'cliff notes' version about the theft, which I wrote thinking people might read a few pages as opposed to an entire book (http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/16/2006/1865) .

Exit polls have historically been seen as the gold standard of reliability and are still considered as such everywhere in the world, except here. How is it that exit polls were relied on for a half century in this country and then suddenly they were wrong in 2000, and again in 2002 and again in 2004? Steven Freeman, author of Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen? Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count, (http://www.electionintegrity.org/book) had analyzed the exit polls of the swing states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida in 2004 and concluded that the odds of the exit polls being as far off as they were are 250 million to one! And still the media utterly failed to question the evidence before its eyes.

http://freepress.org/departments/display/16/2006/2205

[EFerrari]

1. Kick

[Roland99]

2. And rec!

[anitar1]

6. K&R n/t

[ck4829]

3. If there's not a wave of Democrats being sweeped into office come the seventh

Something IS wrong, and it ain't us.

[Jcrowley]

11. Heard a program tonight

that discussed a nationwide poll taken of women and three out of four said they preferred a candidate that would bring the troops home. There was also some live interviews from Pennsylvania and Montana where they were talking to some women who were independent voters that had histories of voting for either party and the sentiment was overwhleming that we needed to get Republicans out of Congress.

There is only one way that the Republicans can hold onto Congress and it has nothing to do so much with what Dems say at this point. The Repugs must cheat on a large scale and if that happens and we do nothing it is our fault. Folks have had it.

[orleans]

44. i can hear it now....they (the pukes) will claim they won due to the

brilliant redistricting crap

[A wise Man]

23. Let us keep in mind

that we haven't lost any of the elections. They were stolen in 2000, 2002 and 2004. Trying to describe what Dems need to do to win is crazy, with the exception that our elected officials need to get some backbone and stand up to these rep thugs.

[dchill]

37. A wise Man once said...

Exactly. We don't really need better ways to win - we just need to count ALL the votes.

[Pacifist Patriot]

28. Particularly when we have letters to the editor like these..

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061102/OPINION/611020320/1004&GID=gcFs7tbx8bcjzNwRSycBj2JQmeaMplr82geufhv1lMc%3D

I was floored. This is an area (and a paper) that has traditionally suckled at the GOP teat.

By way of explanation, the Dem couple who say they are voting for the Republican in the County Commission race...I don't blame them. The Dem candidate is atrocious! I can't bring myself to vote for the Republican, but I actually can see why some people might.

[Land Shark]

35. a rigged system is an UNDERPERFORMING system, not a zero system

so we need to be very clear about what we ought to get (30+ seats in house and more) as the benchmark. A rigged system will deliver 10-15 seats, for example. Think: if gamblers didn't win sometimes they'd stop going to the casino completely

[dchill]

38. Excellent point!

I will be thinking about that until Tuesday night. You can take that to the bank!

[kestrel91316]

4. Let's see what they say to John when he is CHAIRMAN of the

House Judiciary Committee and serves them all with those thingies - what are they called? SUBPOENAS???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[robinlynne]

7. wake up! We were winning in 2000, 2002 and 2004. We need to scream loud and

now! so we can get Conyers in there.

[blm]

43. Conyers is an anti-corruption, open government Democrat - You know how far

DC powerstructure will let him get.

[Gabi Hayes]

5. Is there ANY doubt about what's going on?

any at all?

KR

[EFerrari]

9. None.

:kick:

[LonelyLRLiberal]

8. I like the idea of organizing independent exit polls.

I have not seen that idea discussed on DU or elsewhere. If, as we suspect, this election may be stolen, we need to promote independent exit polls and get organized for future elections. Of course, we also need to stage massive demonstrations and insist that we get rid of voting machines that can be manipulated.

[Old and In the Way]

14. I agree....the Democratic Party should canvass/audit the election.

Ask the voters (voluntarilly, of course) if the want to participate in a study. Have their responses notarized. Sure, Republicans won't bother, but those who suspect that their votes are being hi-jacked will. We cannot count on an independent media to safeguard our elections...they have a vested interest in the outcome.

[Peggy Day]

18. Massive demonstration at the media?

Finances are important to all of those companies. They closed down talking about the 2004 elections like the next day. They are co-conspirators. Blood on their hands. They need to be aware that the airwaves are ours. Any ideas?

[WinkyDink]

20. I said long ago that National Dems should provide people to the

polls so that ALL DEMOCRATIC VOTERS would TELL these people that we voted DEMOCRATIC. Voluntary, but strongly encouraged.

TO HELL with the secret ballot. REVEAL our votes so that they cannot be stolen!

[druidity33]

24. there is someone...

organizing independent exit polls of the major cities... i think Common Cause, but i remember seeing it in a LandShark thread. Maybe it's BradBlog. Either way, it's not Nationwide, but it may help. I agree though, we should have an entirely independent exit poll system, publicly viewable and verifiable.

Isn't it true that in 2004 someone managed to download the unaltered exit polls from a website and that's the only way we know how bad the counting was? What if that one person never managed to get those figures?

:scared:

[Pacifist Patriot]

27. I've been asking about it for two years now.

Every time I bring it up I have gotten whining about how expensive and hard to organize it is. Unbelievable!

[RB TexLa]

30. campaigns do that

you have the voter roll and you have a person at every polling station checking off names at they are called out.

[AntiFascist]

40. VR is doing this together with....

ElectionIntegrity.org's Vote Count Protection Project.

More info here:

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/electionstrikeforce/2006/10/our_independent_exit_polls.html

[LonelyLRLiberal]

41. Thanks! We can help VR by donating for their exit polling.

I'm glad this is being done. Somehow, exit polling by independent non-partisan groups needs to be done on a large scale.

[Blackhatjack]

10. They need to be reminded they are using PUBLIC AIRWAVES...

... and that their licenses can be revoked for not serving the public interest .... for say, failing to report accurate vote totals, complicity in defrauding the public, being a participant in the pay to play game, etc.

Start breaking up the media monopolies, withdraw licenses and award them to new licensees, restore the fairness doctrine, eliminate multiple media ownership in the same market, etc.

You can be that will get their attention....

[rumpel]

19. yes- n/t

[DeSwiss]

12. Well I suppose....

...in January he can "ask" again with subpoenas. For the hearings on the breakup and deregulation of the media giants. Those hearings.....

[tanyev]

13. That stinks. Like elephant droppings.

[Canuckistanian]

15. Sorry, Conyers asked for data and was refused?

ALL of the major corporate news giants?

Did they specifically refuse or did they just ignore the senior member of House Judiciary Committee?

[Vidar]

16. Subpoena power for John Conyers IMHO is the most important

potential result of this election.

[gully]

17. SUBPOENA TIME!

nt

[Senator]

21. kick

[bonito]

22. Kick

By their lying and stealing they are complicit in the murderous killing of not only our sons and daughters but Innocent civilians around the globe.

[Jcrowley]

25. You got it right

protests at media centers are necessary.

[Octafish]

26. Traitors.

What part of the First Amendment don't they understand?

May the FCC get on their monopolistic arses.

[RB TexLa]

29. People at the local stations give these to campaigns

All he has to do is get the date from them.

[mnhtnbb]

31. Conyers needs subpoena power.

[BootinUp]

32. Problem I see with this argument

Author keeps saying exit polls have been relied on, they are the gold standard, etc.

They are only relied on because they are the only means to analyze voters makeup. They have never been relied on to decide elections or dispute them as far as I am aware.

I am in favor of some type of independent audits of election systems. But to use these exit polls to make a case is pretty weak folks.

[RB TexLa]

33. And plus campaigns send people to polling stations to get

exit polled and give false data to try to cause opponents to misuse GOTV efforts

[enough]

34. k&r

[Pierzin]

36. Impeach the SOBs already!!! Subpoena Subpoena Subpoena!!!

Can there really be any doubt anymore about all the crimes commited against our Republic??? Kick and recommend

[AikidoSoul]

39. What about the Zogby exit polls? Are they o.k?`

K & R!

Exit polls have been used in other countries for years to determine whether the elections were fraudulent.

Can we hire those firms?:kick:

[robertpaulsen]

42. Bookmarking to throw in any moran's face who says "librul media".

This puts that canard to rest permanently.