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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:32 AM
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Damn them all to hell...
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 01:34 AM by sfwriter
Just read this article (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003345862) in Editor and Publisher, and tell me that torture isn't destroying our troop morale.

“Peterson objected to the interrogation techniques used on prisoners. She refused to participate after only two nights working in the unit known as the cage. Army spokespersons for her unit have refused to describe the interrogation techniques Alyssa objected to. They say all records of those techniques have now been destroyed….”

She was was then assigned to the base gate, where she monitored Iraqi guards, and sent to suicide prevention training. “But on the night of September 15th, 2003, Army investigators concluded she shot and killed herself with her service rifle,” the documents disclose.

The Army talked to some of Peterson's colleagues. Asked to summarize their comments, Elston told E&P: "The reactions to the suicide were that she was having a difficult time separating her personal feelings from her professional duties. That was the consistent point in the testimonies, that she objected to the interrogation techniques, without describing what those techniques were."

I listened to an old episode of Art Bell the other night from 2002. He had published pictures of prisoners being transported to Gitmo on his website and was surprised that anyone was alarmed at their treatment. He went into a jingoistic rant that if a few of them blew out of the plane, that would be OK with him. This was all pre-Iraqi invasion. Caller after caller called in to say that yeah, these prisoners would be treated better in our custody than in some Arab countries.

Yeah, that sure turned out to be the case.  Most of these guys turned out to be innocent and the torture, in addition to being pointless, was gratuitous.

We sold our moral high ground for nothing more than Republican pride and the inability to face the fact that their methods gained us NOTHING.

So damn them all to hell. (A heavily discounted statement from an atheist to be sure, but a heartfelt one.)

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:36 AM
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1. W's America
Not ours.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:50 AM
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2. Damn them to CHINESE hell...
"Treat captives well, and care for them. All the soldiers taken must be cared for with magnanimity and sincerity so that they may be used by us" (Sun Tzu, The Art of War, Waging War: 19).
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 01:53 AM
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3. They're message regarding torture is simple "We don't discuss it"
So don't worry America...

...as long as it wins votes.

:eyes:

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Bad Penny Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:12 AM
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4. When decent, thoughtful people realize
they're doing Satan's work they become discounted and unreported suicide statistics. I bet it's a shocking number who have killed themselves because of what they've been forced to do in this war. Just a bunch of dishonorable, weak-minded shrinking violets to a nazi like rumsfeld

Fuck Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and the rest of their criminal cohorts. To hell with them all indeed. Even though hell's too good for them
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 02:19 AM
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5. unreported "suicides" -what I was thinking when I read about it.
Hope these people are protected. WE should have a network to protect them.
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