there's at least one silver lining to the Kerry "botched joke" story...

[dysfunctional press]

hopefully, this should put an END to any presidential aspirations that might be bouncing around inside his head for '08 and beyond.

but-
knowing john kerry- that's probably too much to hope for.

[Mass]

1. delete

[Burma Jones]

2. The sooner Kerry is happily teaching at Harvard's Kennedy School of Gov't

The Better.....

[jhuth at work]

3. The silver lining is the poll numbers are even stronger for the Democrats now

despite the attempted swiftboating.

HA!!!

[Mass]

4. Hopefully, it will be to Hillary's

She showed what a weasel she is.

[papau]

5. Hillary saying we need a new policy in Iraq makes her a Weasel? - or is it

the "inappropiate" description of the failed Kerry joke that makes her a weasel?

“What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate and I believe we can't let it divert us from looking at the issues that are at stake in our country. We do need a new policy in Iraq.”

[Mass]

6. Because what Kerry said was not inappropriate.

She accepted the RW spin and ran with it rather than doing what others did, dismiss it for what it was.

Note that all other 08 candidates kept silent on this and some 06 candidates did the right thing.

[TornadoTN]

7. Exactly - I have a big problem with all of the dems that piled on this one

Why were they inappropriate Hillary? It was a joke that he has used before and he set the record straight when his words aired. Why then are they somehow deemed inappropriate when the very essence of what he said is so very true?

Bush got us into this war because of his ignoranance and bravado - he is a failure on so many levels he actually defines the word. So why was Kerry calling him this so "inappropriate"?

Boggles my mind.

[papau]

16. Perhaps a good joke is appropiate, & a poorly stated joke that's easy to twist is

inappriopiate if the goal is defeating Congressional GOP - and not just making fun of Bush?

[William769]

8. It was just another opportunity to bash Mrs. Clinton.

The hate some people show here is really scary!

[sendero]

11. We hate her..

... because you can always count on her to be looking out for number one and NOTHING OR NOBODY ELSE.

[BoneDaddy]

19. She is a pandering

political shark who is more concerned about the acquisition and maintanance of power than she is to real democratic, liberal or progressive values. I wish the Hillary bandwagon would just shut up and go home.

[AtomicKitten]

20. while you're at it

IMO the Kerry and Hillary cheerleaders should STFU and go home. I'm sick of both of these politicians that never miss an opportunity to promote themselves and I'm sick of the people that incessantly promote/apologize for them alternately attacking the other.

In case people have forgotten, and cheerleading has a tendency to create that tunnel vision, we have an election in just a few short days that is infinitely more important than either of these opportunistic wannabe 2008 candidates, neither of whom I'd vote for.

[William769]

22. Want to know who should STFU and go home?

Take a guess.

[BoneDaddy]

23. In total

agreement.

[KittyWampus]

9. what a completely fucked up sentiment to post on DU. How about trashing GOP'ers?

[undeterred]

10. And it was such a great day for all the Kerry bashers here on DU

who don't have anything positive or constructive to say about anything.

[shah269]

12. Look I like the guy! But

Look i like the guy but....well when he didn't fight for his good name i sort of lost all respect for him. And when he didn't contest the election i totally wrote him off.
Nice guy, smartish guy, can't tell a joke to save his life nor is he capable of presenting an idea in under a million words!

[KharmaTrain]

13. And How Many Knew Who Bill Clinton Was In 1990?

All this 2008 psycholbabble may sell magazines or newspapers, but the 2008 election won't be set until we find out what happens next week. There's so much mess in the country and disenchantment in both parties that any tea leaf reading is foolish. How many Democrats were familiar with Jimmy Carter at this point before the '74 elections? Or Bill Clinton in '90? Hell, most people had Mario Cuomo all but annointed that year and what happened to him in '92?

While I supported Senator Kerry's stance yesterday and how he again has been the target of a Repugnican smear, I have long hoped he wouldn't run again in '08 considering what a terrible campaign he ran in '04. It wasn't just Kerry, it was the people who ran that campaign...the Mary Jo Cahills and Bob Schrums...who join the ranks of Donna Brazille and Susan Estrich as failed "gurus".

I am looking forward to the '08 election AFTER this one is concluded and we see if there's a Democratic majority in the House or Senate. Who knows who may win next week with a large margin and then we start hearing those drumbeats.

The real challenge if Democrats win on Tuesday is to understand why they won. Was this a win out of strength or was it by default. That will have a lot of bearing on who emerges in '08. Also, if there was time for a third party to arise (hopefully splintering the GOOP ranks), '08 is the year.

[dysfunctional press]

15. i have the same sentiments...

every time people talk about "front-runners" for '08, i ask them how many people had even heard of bill clinton at this point in 1990...BUT- in Kerry's case- he ran a failed campaign in '04, and has to get it thru his thick head that he's not "entitled" to sit in the big chair, and that it AIN'T gonna happen.

[Crankie Avalon]

14. Well, I don't think people should be piling on Kerry's comment right now...

...but I will agree with you that I really hope he won't ever be our nominee again.

The guy is just not particularly clever and, unfortunately, he's too dumb and full of himself to be able to realize just how not particularly clever he is. He's making jokes about how Bush did in school when his own GPA at the same school (Yale) during almost the exact same years (mid to late 60s) was even worse than Bush's???

Whether it's going around saying he's been talking to "foreign leaders" and they all want him to be president, or "voting for it before voting against it," or his prolix, loves-to-hear-himself-talk addresses when "short and sweet" is what's needed, his complete misjuding at the time of the Swiftboat confrontation, right up to this latest gaffe now (he insists on cracking stiff, lame jokes even though John Kerry is no John Stewart), this guy is waaaaay too politically tone deaf and gaffe prone to ever be a strong candidate for president.

He just doesn't have it. He was a poor candidate in '04 and we need to avoid the mistake of even seriously considering him in '08.

People can disagree about this, but I have as much right to my opinion on him as a nominee as they have to theirs.

[Tom Rinaldo]

17. I think this is a disruptive thread that we don't need right now

Don't want to support Kerry for 08? Fine. He's not my first choice either, but I appreciate all the hard work Kerry has been doing for Democrats and I appreciate all the hard work Kerry supporters have been doing for Democrats. It's 6 days away from an election that all of us need to pull together on, and overt Kerry bashing helps no one but Republicans. Couldn't you have at least waited a week, or better yet a decade?

I am sorry I had to bump this thread in order to reply. If it weren't already near the top of the page I would not have.

[BeyondGeography]

18. Kerry '08 was always an absurd thought

and, now, hopefully, he doesn't even bother to pursue it. This flub might not seem like much to people on this board, but Kerry's become a national joke with the casual voter and the fence-sitters and he has incurred long-term damage.

[seabeyond]

21. letter from brother who lost his twin in iraq. KERRY has been

there for his family. kerry has given his time to the family that lost the soldier, and has been there forthis family in their time of pain. has given to this family

your post is sick

just disgusts me.
all you dems willing to trash a dem that has accomplished a lot in his lifetime.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2549174

[kentuck]

24. It was his moment of truth...

and he failed.

[blm]

25. YES - It REVEALED the DEPTHS unprincipled Democrats will go to side with Bush

over John Kerry, in their quest to put themselves in place to protect Bush2 the same way Bill Clinton protected Bush1.

Hillary will enjoy the debates, I'm sure.