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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:19 PM
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Will this holocaust be forgotten?
what's a couple million Armenian dead anyway?

Amazing how attempts to rewrite history pop up over and over

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6107360.stm

BBC Europe editor Mark Mardell talks to Armenians in Turkey and asks why a massacre that took place nearly a century ago, and the question whether it was genocide, is such a sensitive issue in Turkey today.

Why is modern-day democratic Turkey so sensitive about something that happened nearly 100 years ago in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire? A BBC radio programme wants me to probe the delicate question of what the state's official attitude to the killings says about present-day Turkey.

Nobody seriously disputes that many thousands of Armenians died in what is now eastern Turkey between 1914 and 1918. Some Turkish historians say 200,000 died, some Armenian historians say it was two million. Turkish writers are still prosecuted for calling it "genocide". But the French parliament has caused outrage in Turkey by voting to make denial that these killings were genocide a crime on a par with holocaust denial.


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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:22 PM
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1. Where are your :sarcasm: smilies? Surely you can't be serious. n/t
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:26 PM
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2. did I miss something here?
are you saying you don't acknowledge the Armenian holocaust?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:36 PM
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9. Your first sentence "what's a couple million Armenian dead anyway?" can be
misleading.

Yes, I know about the Armenian holocaust. For me it's a personal thing that goes beyond the limited coverage in history books used in colleges.

You and I are kindred spirits on this issue.

:hi:
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:14 AM
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10. I learned about this at an early age
One of my best friends when I was young was named Harpootian. His parents and grandparents generation had been nearly wiped out. The stories the survivors told gave me nightmares.

And more recently another good friend's family (Arzoomanian was the family name) ended up sharing some stories that made me realize they left out the most horrific parts of the stories I was told when I was young.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:24 PM
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11. Thanks for sharing with me. Have a nice day. n/t
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:28 PM
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3. And what about what the Japanese did to the Chinese in the 1930s?
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:33 PM
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4. and to the Koreans
the list is shamefully long isn't it?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:34 PM
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5. And the Americans to the Iraqis.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:37 PM
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6. what? 650,000 dead innocents constitutes a slaughter?
:sarcasm:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:40 PM
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7. Closer to 700,000.
It's been a few weeks since the report.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 04:46 PM
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8. kick
:dem:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:27 PM
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12. Two words - Denny Hastert

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254

Did Speaker Hastert Accept Turkish Bribes to Deny Armenian Genocide and Approve Weapons Sales?
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