Let's face it - You don't have to "compensate" being gay by being über-accomplished.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

That's right. You don't have to be an Alan Turing or an Oscar Wilde or an Ian McKellen.

EVERYONE is important. Period.

I don't know, I just felt like posting this.

[Vorta]

1. Need one be über gay to be self-realized?

[Disturbed]

2. I don't understand why GLBT persons would be Repug.

What are the reasons that they would join the Repug Party?

[Vorta]

3. Narcissism. All wrapped up in that "post-gay" crappola.... or not.

[Critters2]

6. Post-gay? I'm not familiar

Critters
post-bi?

[sui generis]

10. I think "post-gay" being

Outside some basic set of predefined social behaviors for what makes someone "gay", as in "gay" in the 70's or 80's was post-gay to Stonewall, and certainly "gay" in this century is evolving too, as much in perception as in practice.

We're not all about the bathhouses, buttless chaps, dykes on bykes and mullets any more!

:rofl:

I wonder what the gay-neanderthals were like? I bet their caves were fabulous.

[Critters2]

17. I sorta guessed this, but had never heard the term

And no more mullets?! What's next? Straight women on softball teams?!

The world is changing way too fast for li'l ol' me!

[LostinVA]

7. Oh boy

[sui generis]

9. grin

:P

:popcorn:

[Vorta]

12. It was the nicest thing I could think to say.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

13. I just want to know what "post-gay" means.

Can I be post gay, too? What does it entail? Does it come with a decent dental plan? What's the dress code like? Can I still wear stylish, but sensible shoes?

These are important questions. I'm seriously interested in becoming "post gay," but only if it's a decent upgrade from "gay."

[Vorta]

14. The Advocate promoted it in the late nineties, kind of half heartedly

It was kind of a "movement" in terminology and culture that was more promotion than reality in my opinion. It's hard to pin down because the nature of the argument was in the netherworld of "don't define me". This is somewhat like young people who defiantly claim to be nonconformist, all together and in a remarkably conformist group behavior.

I remember a letter to the Advocate that summed it up pretty well. The author wrote something like , "OK so to be post gay I am supposed to meet a standard of masculinity and also be open to having sex with women. I have enough stright people telling me that, I don't need to hear it from The Advocate."

I don't blame the LCR folks for feeling disaffected from the gay political mainstream, anyone who doesn't conform to a Berkeley world view is often disaffected from that. But I also don't see the LCR folk as mainstream, or particulary together. If anything, we need gay people who haven't tossed their standards out with the bathwater to remain in the mainstream of gay politics to wrest the organisations from the socialists who took advantage of the AIDS epidemic to seize power from the gay businesspeople.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

15. So basically it's something that was mentioned in an article 10 years ago and still bugs you?

Wow. That's crazy.

[readmoreoften]

18. Wow, advocating the Log Cabin Republicans over mainstream GLBT folks.

"If anything, we need gay people who haven't tossed their standards out with the bathwater to remain in the mainstream of gay politics to wrest the organisations from the socialists who took advantage of the AIDS epidemic to seize power from the gay businesspeople."

Yes, the whole "marriage" thing is very "loony left". You're a genius.

[foreigncorrespondent]

11. Wow!

"post gay" Is that some kind of new snail mail thing? "Need to send something, why not post gay?"

[Jamastiene]

21. I post gay every time I post.

I'm always gay, so anytime I post, it's post gay. Or is that a new breakfast cereal from Post? Does it make somebody gay if they eat it? All kidding aside, I really do always post gay. }(

[Stockholm]

4. Or black or muslim or woman

n/t

[sui generis]

5. well better advice would be

be yourself whoever that is, über-whatever, or not.

Anyway, my experience is that everybody has a superpower of some kind, whether they know it or not. ;)

I also think we need "alpha" queers, just like the army needs soldiers. It's not about competition so much as about having some people on point in the game, willing to take a few fouls and bruises so the rest don't have to.

[Jed Dilligan]

8. Do I have to be touched by his noodly appendage

in order to be gay?

(Sorry, I had to!)

[dsc]

16. I grew up thinking if I were just accomplished enough

I could remove the 'stink' of being gay. I studied hard, became a good muscian, and tried to be as religious as possible. When that didn't work, I tried a geographical cure. I figured if I moved away from my hometown I would find more appealing women. Shock of shocks that didn't work either. I think though that drive often doesn't leave which is why you have so many gays who become big sucesses.

[sui generis]

19. I didn't CHOOSE to be superbtacular

I was born this way.

:shrug:

They'll prolly find the gay gene is all tied up with other desirable alpha qualities. :hide:

DSC I think you are not properly crediting yourself. If you are driven and successful, perhaps it's not at all the result of tragedy or oppression, but maybe in spite of it.

And if you're not "driven and successful" there is nothing wrong with that. We don't live to be successful by any single standard, certainly. Success for some people is a cozy white picket fence cottage and loved ones to dote upon, and personal fulfillment.

And when we get those things "in spite of" some people who would rather we were as unhappy as everyone else, it's just worth that much more.

If you're driven, do it because you like the foot race, not because some demon is chasing you.

[dsc]

20. It is hard to seperate out frankly

History is replete with people who are far more driven than normal due to family history. LBJ famously was hyperambitious due to every male relative of his dying at an early age. Clearly any reasonable senario would have both the qualities existing without the outside pressure and them being reinforced by the outside pressures.