Fallwell on CNN discussing Haggard

[malaise]

says he does not know him.

[BootinUp]

1. What a riot.

[malaise]

3. Indeed

:popcorn::rofl:

[Tellurian]

30. What? Pinocchio Falwell pulling a Peter's denial..

I know theres a pun in there somewhere but...

today has been a flameless day- :hi:

I could probably fix that..but I'm saving my adrenalin rush..

[William Bloode]

37. A bit tasteless but that was one fine pun.

Intended or not. lol!

[BootinUp]

41. Your on a roll I think.

Poor Teddy. lol.

:hi:

[symbolman]

55. Flameless?

What do you call all those posts you made while you shilled for Harris and you called people CRAZY, and Kerry LAZY, etc?

YOu weren't flaming people? Were they flaming you, forcing you to call them CRAZY?

I'm confused, but I want you to hear this show by Randi Rhodes and pass it along or refute it with FACTS please. No flaming here, just FACTS..

http://www.tbtmradio.com/mp3/bev_randi.mp3

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Sure, Jerry. (Psst, Jerry - how was he in the sack? )

[SpiralHawk]

68. Judas Iscariot: "How's about a kiss for your Cousin Dupree?"

"What is he, another republicon deviant pervert crony? Not news. They are all over the place." - Jerrrry F.

[Rose Siding]

4. Cock-a-doodle-doo

Will they all deny him?

[malaise]

49. No some are in complete denial

http://www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1326038
<snip>“It’s fishy,” said the Rev. Steve Holt, senior pastor for 3,500-member Mountain Springs Church. “I think people should take note that this is five days before the election, and that Ted is a proponent of yes on Amendment 43 and no on Referendum I.”

James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said the media were to blame.

“It is unconscionable that the legitimate news media would report a rumor like this based on nothing but one man’s accusation,” Dobson said.

“Ted Haggard is a friend of mine, and it appears someone is trying to damage his reputation as a way of influencing the outcome of Tuesday’s election — especially the vote on Colorado’s marriage protection amendment — which Ted strongly supports.”

The Rev. Donald Armstrong, rector of Grace Episcopal and St. Stephen’s Church, said he’s known Haggard for more than two decades and knows he’s not gay.
“I’ve known pastor Haggard for a long time,” he said. “That’s the last thing he’d succumb to.”
-------------------
:popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl:

[WinkyDink]

79. Is "one man" anything like "one woman" (Paula Jones)?

No, I thought not.

[mhatrw]

84. From Luke 22:33-34

Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, I am prepared to go to prison and to die with you."

But Jesus replied, "I tell you, Peter, before the cock crows this day, you will deny three times that you know me."

[tridim]

5. "Well, I don't know him

and he's been critical of us."

Yea, whatever. Liar.

Wonder when Fallwell's male prostitute story will break?

[Rainscents]

6. O.M.G...

These people are real nut case!

[C_U_L8R]

7. Judas

[lpbk2713]

8. Falwell just said Tuesday will be a BLOODBATH for the GOP.

Interesting observation.

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Oh Gawd, that Rush image is soooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My sides hurt....................

[AllegroRondo]

94. Theres a campaign commercial using that video in Missouri

about the stem cell amendment.

"who do you believe about Amendment 2?
These 100+ medical organizations, like the American Cancer Society and the Christopher Reeve Foundation?" (scroll names of organizations)

"Or this man?" (show wobbly Rush footage)

VERY EFFECTIVE!

[lpbk2713]

96. I for one would publicly like to thank all these RW losers

... for providing us so generously with so much ammunition to use against them.

And their timing could not have been any better.

Thanks a lot assholes!

[Tellurian]

32. Yup, The Teletubbies take Texas.. Falwell emerges from the closet..

shakin bacon, Rush...:rofl:

[roamer65]

47. That means Falwell is abandoning the GOP.

He's throwing them to the wolves. I would not be surprised to see the nutball RR run their own presidential candidate in '08. The Rethuglican party just may not exist in 2 years...hehehehehe.

[symbolman]

57. Re: your sig graphic -- That must be Jelly

cos JAM don't shake like that :)

I thought for a second it was ROVE after he'd heard about the Haggard outing, but at that speed close enough :)

GREAT STUFF!

[Ms. Clio]

9. before the cock crows thrice, or something, huh, Jerry?

tsk, tsk.

[Daphne08]

10. I heard it as I was starting supper in the kitchen.

Can you believe this man?? He doesn't know that he's ever met Haggard!

:rofl:

[Raksha]

35. Of course not!

Bush couldn't recall ever meeting Jack Abramoff either.

[StellaBlue]

44. Me, too.

Glad to know that there are millions of other Americans experiencing things with us. Finally.

[WI_DEM]

11. That's a good one!

[3waygeek]

12. Falwell is right...

he doesn't know Haggard (in the biblical sense, that is) :evilgrin:

[Not Me]

29. Yeah, Peter didn't know Christ either.

[Raffi Ella]

13. Fallwell showed

no shock,no dismay,heck he wasn't even angry over these allegations...I think that speaks volumes don't you?

[CatWoman]

14. heh

and Bush didn't know Kenny Boy, either :)

[lpbk2713]

19. Kinda like Allen not knowing what macaca means

:shrug:

[TahitiNut]

20. Gotta love then cracker-jack CNN fact-checkers.

They sure are on top of the game, aren't they? :puke:

:hi:

[Skidmore]

15. Jerry's nose is growing....

The Christian Right's Humble Servant
By Max Blumenthal, AlterNet. Posted November 15, 2004.

"...Congress' passage of a ban on late-term abortions in November, 2003 – again with centrist Democratic support – presented Bush with yet another opportunity to burnish his credentials with the religious right. As Bush signed the bill flanked by Christian right mandarins like Jerry Falwell, Lou Sheldon and Sen. Rick Santorum – an image seemingly calculated to rankle the 100 Planned Parenthood activists protesting outside the White House – cries of the ceremony's 400 attendees erupted in cries of "Amen!" Later that day, Bush celebrated privately with a virtual who's who of the religious right, including Falwell, radio host Janet Parshall, SBC leader Richard Land and National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) president Ted Haggard, who leads a 14,000 member church in Colorado Springs, Colo. Together, they joined hands and prayed."

[muntrv]

17. Pictures?

[tridim]

18. Nobody lies more than evangelicals

Even politicians.

It's been proven over and over again, yet they still rake in the cash. Quite a scam they've got going there.

[Kingshakabobo]

59. I call them "Liars for Jesus"....as long as they......

.....do it with that smug all-knowing self-righteous smile it's OK.

[Tellurian]

38. The incestuousness of the WH..

I see Karl in there too...
praying those voting machines do God's work for him!

[Tom Joad]

76. Joined hands? Is that all?

[skip fox]

93. Good work. There must be much more.

If someone has time and good searching strageties, they might find much more.

:)

[The Straight Story]

16. Here is proof he knows him:

Jerry Falwell
06/3/2003

I later learned that Rev. Haggard, who was only recently elected to his position, was not fully aware of the serious charges that would be made. Having talked with him since the meeting, I am convinced of his sincerity when he declares the event was not intended to be a personal rebuke of anyone. In fact, Rev. Haggard advised Mark DeMoss, publicist for Franklin Graham, in writing that he personally agreed with Franklin's critical comments about Islam.

http://www.juntosociety.com/guest/falwell/jf_lr_060303.html

[C_U_L8R]

21. Too-friggin-shay !!!

send that on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hil-ar-i-ous

[malaise]

23. That's just too good

Falwell is lying publicly. This gets better by the minute.
Very serious says Sullivan. This will make Foley lookl small in terms of the size of his following.
Oh I'm loving it :rofl::popcorn:

[proud patriot]

28. Bingo

good find

[phylny]

60. Oh gee. Look. A link to contact Rev. Falwell's ministries.

However did I find this? And whatever did I e-mail to them?

Heh.

http://www.falwell.com/contact_us.php

[tavalon]

69. The religious wrong and the politicos are really, really slow

to understand that the rise of the net means the end of their ability to lie without being called on it.

[Tom Joad]

78. So not only is he a anti-Gay nut (who is really Gay), but an anti-Muslim

nut. Figures.
Maybe he also secretly wears Hijab, too.

[ecstatic]

92. the first clue that someone is on the DL (downlow)

living a double life:

Starts screwing up their lies, getting sloppy. This was such a bold faced lie that now one can't help but wonder about Falwell and what he is hiding.

[leftchick]

22. There is NO WAY Jerry did not know him!

Ted baby was the PRESIDENT of The National Association of Evangelicals!

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Not so sure about that. He probably never looked above Ted's waist

[malaise]

31. WTF? Jerry does know him

Look who wrote this :rofl: :rofl:
http://www.juntosociety.com/guest/falwell/jf_lr_060303.html
<snip>
The 'Loving Rebuke'
Jerry Falwell
06/3/2003

Earlier this month, a group of religious figures gathered in Washington, D.C., in order to publicly condemn recent remarks on Islam and Mohammed by evangelical leaders, including me.

These leaders from the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) stated that they wished to "lovingly rebuke" those who have made controversial statements regarding Islam. In addition to me - while none of us were officially named - those targeted included evangelist Franklin Graham, CBN President Pat Robertson, Prison Fellowship Founder Chuck Colson and Dr. Jerry Vines, a past president of the Southern Baptist Convention and current pastor of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville.

The Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the NAE and pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, said at the meeting, "Since we are in a global community, no doubt about it, we must temper our speech and we must communicate primarily through actions."

[DoYouEverWonder]

51. Battle Cry Partners include: Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell & Tim Haggard

Battle Cry is a Christian fascist youth movement. It is led by politically powerful theocrats who prey on the fears, search for meaning, and moral dilemmas that are facing today's youth. They claim their religion and values are under attack, but it is Battle Cry - and the intolerant theocratic movement they are part of - that has declared war on everyone else! They are raising an army of youth to conquer the world and impose a theocracy where their hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism is made law.

FACT # 1: Battle Cry is connected to very powerful theocrats and leaders in the country.

Bush appointed BC founder, Ron Luce, to the White House Advisory Commission on Drug-Free Communities.

Battle Cry Partners include: Pat Robertson (who Karl Rove called to approve Alito before the nomination was announced), Tim Haggard (who brags that his concerns will be responded to by the White House within 24 hours), Jerry Falwell (who blamed September 11th on homosexuals, feminists, pagans, abortionists, etc.), and others.

Battle Cry speakers have included Barbara Bush (by video) and former President Jerry Ford.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/12/63458/2482

[Hepburn]

64. Yep,

the minute I read that BS from Falwell about not knowing Haggard, I did a bit of googling and he sure as hell knows him.

Here is a little blurb written by Falwell about a conversation he had with Haggard:

I later learned that Rev. Haggard, who was only recently elected to his position, was not fully aware of the serious charges that would be made. Having talked with him since the meeting, I am convinced of his sincerity when he declares the event was not intended to be a personal rebuke of anyone. In fact, Rev. Haggard advised Mark DeMoss, publicist for Franklin Graham, in writing that he personally agreed with Franklin's critical comments about Islam.

http://www.juntosociety.com/guest/falwell/jf_lr_060303.html

Geeeeeez, GMABF. Does Falwell think people are so stupid that they are not going to hunt around a bit for the truth?? Just on its face ~~ two RW fundie nuts like this not knowing each other??? Sounded fishy to me ~~ and it turned out to be just as fishy as I thought.

[DoYouEverWonder]

53. Here's some more of Haggard's friends including Falwell

http://battlecry.com/pages/partners.php

As the Battle Cry Coalition gains momentum, these notable Christian leaders have already enlisted and are actively lending their support to the Coalition's efforts. Won't you join them in helping to reach this generation? Every coalition member is so important in realizing the vision of 100,000 churches and one million individuals. They've enlisted. Have you?


KAY ARTHUR
Precept Ministries Intl

CHUCK COLSON
Prison Fellowship Ministries

KIRK FRANKLIN
Musician

JACK GRAHAM
Prestowood Baptist Church

TED HAGGARD
National Association of Evangelicals

GREG LAURIE
Harvest Christian Fellowship

JOSH MCDOWELL
Ministries

JOYCE MEYER
Joyce Meyer Ministries

BOB RECORD
North American Mission Board

TOMMY BARNETT
Phoenix First Assembly of God

JERRY FALWELL
Jerry Falwell Ministries

JOHN MAXWELL
The Injoy Group

PAT ROBERTSON
Christian Broadcasting Network

[underpants]

70. The NAE has 30 MILLION MEMBERS and Jerry doesn't know him?

Come on that is harder to believe than the NAE having 30 Million members.

ON EDIT
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2559751#top

[Catherine Vincent]

24. Did you notice when Falwell said that this Haggard guy said that

he (Falwell) and others in the evangelical church are too aggressive with the issues? That is his way of saying that Haggard was more liberal than conservative.

[opihimoimoi]

34. Falwell knew the guy is gay and in the closet...I just know it....

WUZ in the closet....now the world knows .....

[stepnw1f]

27. The Right Wing is Falling Apart

They weren't meant to have power....

[malaise]

33. Haggard's gay sex demons

http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2005/week21/index.html

These people are raving lunatics.:rofl:

[stepnw1f]

48. My Eyes are Bleeding...ahhhhh

Seriously... I just posted this for a bunch of dittoheads on another message forum. I can't wait to read their responses. This oughta make for a great discussion, I'm sure. :evilgrin:

[malaise]

54. Post them here please n/t

[blogslut]

36. Hey Jerry!

Remember that mailer you sent out in the early eighties.? You know, the one where you said that your son infiltrated the gay culture? Did your son run into Haggard while he bravely explored the seedy world of those filthy filthy gays? Now, which son was that?

Jonathan



or Jerry Jr.?



Were you scared for your son's soul?

[BlueManDude]

39. never met him, he wasn't a leader, didn't belong to his group...

[Ice4Clark]

40. I found this mention of Haggard and Falwell

Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:24:45 -0700

Subject: FYI


Dear New Lifers and Friends of New Life Church,


I just wanted to send you a quick note telling about this week. Some of you might remember that several years ago I published on the back of our newsletter a sketch of the process a baby goes through when a partial birth abortion is performed on it. I received a lot of criticism for publishing that sketch, but thought it was worth the pressure because of the horrific nature of this procedure being conducted throughout our nation.


Well, on Monday I was in the World Prayer Center and my cell phone rang. It was one of the special assistants to President Bush calling from the White House. It turns out that when the President was reviewing the list of those attending the signing of the partial birth abortion ban, he asked why I wasn't attending and asked that they call me. So the White House staff got onto the phones and were calling the NAE Washington office, our church office and my cell phone at the same time trying to see if I could come to the signing.


Of course I could. So I rearranged my schedule (thank you to those of you whose appointments got changed) and flew to Washington on Tuesday to be at the signing on Wednesday. I sat with those from the Senate and House who voted for the bill, and afterward was escorted to the President's motorcade and taken to the White House. I and seven others were able to spend 55 minutes with the President in the Oval office discussing any issue we liked. It was incredible. I'll tell you about the discussion in church.


Attending the private meeting with the President were Rev. Jerry Falwell from Liberty University, Janet Parshall, author and host of the nationally syndicated radio broadcast "Janet Parshall's America," Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) President Dr. Jack Graham, former SBC President Dr. Adrian Rogers, American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow, National Religious Broadcasters President Frank Wright, and President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Richard Land.


Today I'm in Indianapolis. Most of you know that Pastor Scott Baur, the son-in-law of Dr. Jack Hayford and the the pastor of Church on the Way, unexpectedly went home to be with the Lord a few days ago. Because of that, Pastor Jack had to cancel some engagements, so I'm covering for him by speaking to a group of ministers at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis today.


So my whole week is responding to last minute situations. I wonder what Sunday will be like . . .


Thank you for praying for me. I love being your pastor.


Pastor Ted



SOURCE

[Catherine Vincent]

42. delete

[Perky]

43. I think it is somehow a little shameful that we seem to be gloating over Haggard

I don't know if he is gay or not. All there is at this point is an accusation and Haggard resignation from the NAE. It does not look good to be sure and whatever the truth is I am fine with. I am not defending Haggard, but I don't have all the facts yet and neither does anyone else. Is he a hypocrite?.....time will tell...but for all I know, his accuser could be lying.

But......(and maybe it is just my own Christian mercy showing through here) I find no joy in seeing someone who may have led a double life being exposed. It seems somehow distasteful that so many on DU are gloating over it. If true it is devastating to lots of people. If he did do what the accuser says he did, then yeah he made his own bed and deserves whatever he gets. But his wife....his five kids..... and his flock are reeling right now. The fellowship could fall apart over this....I suspect the entire church staff could lose their jobs as people just walk away.

I just wish DUers were a little kinder, but then again thatis just me.

[Ikonoklast]

52. He is NOT a Christian

He was a carnival barker, a con man, a user, a liar, a denier of Christian values. He must hate his own family and fellowship to have behaved in this manner.

Falwell is gleefully throwing him under the bus in a vain attempt to climb to the top of the dung heap that the Evangelical movement is quickly becoming. There are few men of honor in positions of leadership that have not sold out their Christian ideals for political gain.

The pursuit of gold and power has blinded them to the teachings of Christ. Hypocrites.

[Binka]

58. Falwell Is Not A Christian Either

These fuckwittages are avarice riddled CHEATS. Hey Jerry ya fat fuck gluttony is a SIN you ASS CARROT!

[tkmorris]

61. Perhaps........

It would have been better if you had wished that the oh so righteous Christian Evangelicals had been a little kinder. Perhaps then we might have been a little kinder to their plight when they fell from the oh so high pedestals they placed themselves on.

But that's just me.

[DoYouEverWonder]

65. Guys like Haggard

doen't suddenly resign just because someone else lied.

BTW: Apparently, the fellow has him on tape talking about sex and drugs.

[WinkyDink]

81. Too bad. These people "find joy" in others' DEATHS.

Or did I miss their sermons about giving to the POOR, and tending the AFFLICTED, and, you know, NOT WAGING WAR IN IRAQ??

You don't know an Elmer Gantry/Chaucer's "Pardoner" when he dupes you. I wish YOU were a tad more savvy.

[earth mom]

88. Be kind? Play Nice? NO-I don't think so!

Those fucking evangelical bastards have just about destroyed this country! They helped put in power and keep in power a regime that is hell bent on destroying the U.S. and most of it's people! They want the majority of us GONE-get it?! They have spent years and millions/billions of dollars demonizing the majority of us-liberals, progressives, intellectuals, gays, the poor, non christians-while they paint themselves pure as the driven snow and above everyone else! Meanwhile, behind closed doors they do the very things that they preach against!

Who gives a damn about those god damn hypocrites, liars, cheaters and thieves?! C'mon now! Excuse me, BUT, I will reserve my compassion for the truly downtrodden in this country! The people the GOP and it's supporters-the evangelicals-have mowed over and tried to annihilate! The homeless, The poor, The working poor, People who have no healthcare, Katrina victims who still don't have a home over a year later, Children who are getting a shoddy education due to lack of funds, The elderly who struggle against medicare, Gays who don't have equal civil rights! HELL NO-I don't feel sorry for and won't be kind to that piece of shit Haggard or any of his friends who happen to suddenly not know him!

HELL NO! :grr:

[mondo joe]

98. I always enjoy it when villains get their comeuppance.

[Malikshah]

45. Watch the Eyes of Tammy Faye....

Maybe the little mother-f(*&^& (in an outhouse no less...) will take over much like he took over PTL...

[brer cat]

46. I commend all of you on this thread for your fortitude!

I would rather eat vomit than look at or hear falwell.

I appreciate the info, and salute you for making it available to we weaker souls.

:toast:

[B Calm]

50. Thou shall not LIE

[Hubert Flottz]

56. "Across the nation abominations,

They'll be dancin in the streets,"

[Hepburn]

62. Well, a quick Google of the web turned this up:

E-mail from Pastor Ted Haggard

From: Pastor Ted Haggard [e-mail]>

Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:24:45 -0700

Subject: FYI

Dear New Lifers and Friends of New Life Church,

...

Well, on Monday I was in the World Prayer Center and my cell phone rang. It was one of the special assistants to President Bush calling from the White House. It turns out that when the President was reviewing the list of those attending the signing of the partial birth abortion ban, he asked why I wasn't attending and asked that they call me. So the White House staff got onto the phones and were calling the NAE Washington office, our church office and my cell phone at the same time trying to see if I could come to the signing.

...

Attending the private meeting with the President were Rev. Jerry Falwell from Liberty University, Janet Parshall, author and host of the nationally syndicated radio broadcast "Janet Parshall's America," Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) President Dr. Jack Graham, former SBC President Dr. Adrian Rogers, American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow, National Religious Broadcasters President Frank Wright, and President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Richard Land.

(Emphasis added)

http://www.csindy.com/csindy/2003-11-13/webextra.html

Hmmmmm....maybe Jerry F. was just having a Senior Moment...:eyes:

[Vidar]

63. He's probably setting up for a chuch takeover, as he did in the

aftermath of the Jim Baker scandal.

[pnorman]

66. Thank G*d for Google!!

Nailed that hypocritical CREEP to what's no doubt his favorite religious symbol!

pnorman

[Olney Blue]

67. Oh? He's not raising money for the "Haggard Legal Defense Fund"?

[The Backlash Cometh]

71. Who has the clip that will call Falwell a liar?

[Lochloosa]

72. Bullshit he did not know him. And here is the proof. Written in Falwells

own diseased hand.

http://www.juntosociety.com/guest/falwell/jf_lr_060303.html

The 'Loving Rebuke'


Jerry Falwell
06/3/2003

Earlier this month, a group of religious figures gathered in Washington, D.C., in order to publicly condemn recent remarks on Islam and Mohammed by evangelical leaders, including me.


These leaders from the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) stated that they wished to "lovingly rebuke" those who have made controversial statements regarding Islam. In addition to me - while none of us were officially named - those targeted included evangelist Franklin Graham, CBN President Pat Robertson, Prison Fellowship Founder Chuck Colson and Dr. Jerry Vines, a past president of the Southern Baptist Convention and current pastor of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville.


The Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the NAE and pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, said at the meeting, "Since we are in a global community, no doubt about it, we must temper our speech and we must communicate primarily through actions."

Snip

I later learned that Rev. Haggard, who was only recently elected to his position, was not fully aware of the serious charges that would be made. Having talked with him since the meeting, I am convinced of his sincerity when he declares the event was not intended to be a personal rebuke of anyone. In fact, Rev. Haggard advised Mark DeMoss, publicist for Franklin Graham, in writing that he personally agreed with Franklin's critical comments about Islam.

[izzybeans]

83. I found that too. I think what he means to say is, "This hateful bigot

thinks even I, Jerry Falwell, am too bigoted for his ministry." It appears Falwell is pissed the NAE started to distance themselves from all the hatred of Islam expressed by himself and Robertson. If this is true then I feel that having a fractured Christian right political faction will be an extra bonus for us in this election and the next few to come.

[mcg]

73. Haggard was on The Daily Show

http://nonprophet.typepad.com/nonprophet/2005/08/ted_haggard_on_.html

Stewart:

Robertson’s right wing allies in the media also found themselves in a tight spot. How to defend a man of God, calling for the killing of another human being? Well, there are three ways. First way; dismiss the message.

Pastor Ted Haggard:

I think you have to understand the context of it, you know his program has one segment of it that’s a Christian exhortation, and in another section where he’s a political pundit.

JS (jokingly speaking as if explaining TH’s statement):

See what you don’t understand is that Robertson didn’t make his comment during the time of day in which he’s a Christian. Uh, by the way, very understandable. Have you every tried to actually live your life by what this guy(points at a pic of Jesus) says? I mean. After an hour of so you need some me time.

[rosesaylavee]

74. This is probably why Jerry can't seem to recall his buddy Ted...

In May 2003, Ted publically chastised him and others for their anti-Islamic rhetoric.

Haggard debuted his kinder and gentler evangelicalism at a May 7 forum on Islam that was co-sponsored by the NAE, an organization that represents 51 denominations with 43,000 congregations and 250 para-church organizations.

While reaffirming evangelicals' belief in the uniqueness and supremacy of Christ, the forum broke new ground by calling on evangelical leaders like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Franklin Graham to tone down their inflammatory anti-Islam rhetoric.

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:cy2Yq6eYWQAJ:www.baptiststandard.com/postnuke/index.php%3Fmodule%3Dhtmlpages%26func%3Ddisplay%26pid%3D619+Ted+Haggard+%22Jerry+Falwell%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=45

How dare anyone criticize Jerry?

[rsmith6621]

75. Heres a link

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200401/ai_n9365307

[depakid]

77. I won't watch any neyweork that puts the likes of Falwell on

or Ann Coulter for that matter.

[helderheid]

80. HE DOES NOT KNOW HIM???

:spray: :rofl:

[malaise]

85. This is getting uglier by the minute

Haggard admits buying meth from gay escort 'one time' and having a massage 'once'. MSNBC.

Would someone check in on the Freepers.

Holy shit - MSNBC played the interview - Haggard has made this much worse.

Add.

[yellowcanine]

99. In the Biblical sense, I presume. Genesis 4:1 The man knew Eve his wife. She conceived,

and gave birth to Cain, and said, "I have gotten a man with Yahweh's help."

[yellowcanine]

100. Is Falwell going to go and take over Haggard's "ministry"? Like he did with

Jim Bakker? Or was it Jimmy Swaggert?

[catmandu57]

82. It's time to drive a stake through these hypocrites black hearts

If we can discourage these lemmings enough they'll go away and it will be generations before they get the balls to bother the world again.

[malaise]

89. The pix we've been waiting for

From Crooks and Liars.

[Beausoir]

90. This needs a separate post! Spread it far and wide!

[malaise]

91. DUers are posting this on

all the Haggard threads. Now to find one with Falwell.

They should be out of pocket shortly.

Add.

[earth mom]

86. None of the GOP know each other. Don't know Gannon, Don't know Abramoff,

Don't know Foley, Don't know Haggard...Yeah right. :eyes:

And they are all as pure as the driven snow! NOT!

How fucking gullible do they think people are?! :puke:

[truthisfreedom]

87. "i never slept with that man."

[Megahurtz]

95. What a Lying Sack

of gluttonous blubber.

[warrens]

97. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sure, sure, sure. That seems to be the Repuke reaction. "Never heard of him." Just like Cheney and BUsh never heard of Kennyboy after he got busted.

[pnorman]

101. Is that "confirmed" that Falwell said that?

("And the cock crowed thrice"). I don't watch TV myself, but would like to use that in a discussion on a BBS. THANKS.

pnorman