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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:56 PM
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11/14-Criminal Investigtion-Rummy & Gonzales & Other Key Bush Admin Officials (The Nation)
comment | posted November 2, 2006 (November 20, 2006 issue)
War Criminals, Beware
Jeremy Brecher & Brendan Smith


On November 14 a group of lawyers and other experts will come before the German federal prosecutor and ask him to open a criminal investigation targeting Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and other key Bush Administration figures for war crimes. The recent passage of the Military Commissions Act provides a central argument for the legal action, under the doctrine of universal jurisdiction: It demonstrates the intent of the Bush Administration to immunize itself legally from prosecution in the United States, even for the most serious crimes.

The Rumsfeld action was announced at a conference in New York City in late October titled "Is Universal Jurisdiction an Effective Tool?" The doctrine allows domestic courts to prosecute international crimes regardless of where the crime was committed, the nationality of the perpetrator or the nationality of the victim. It is reserved for only the most heinous offenses: genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, including torture. A number of countries around the world have enacted universal jurisdiction statutes; even the United States allows it for certain terrorist offenses and torture.

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The case will draw on a powerful new argument. The Military Commissions Act of 2006, which the President promoted and recently signed into law, provides retroactive immunity for civilians who violated the War Crimes Act, including officials of the Bush Administration. Such an attempt to provide immunity for their crimes, it will be argued, is in itself evidence of an effort to block prosecution of those crimes. Indeed, according to Scott Horton, chair of the International Law Committee of the New York City Bar Association, when Yugoslavia sought to immunize senior government officials, the United States declared the act itself to be evidence of such a conspiracy.

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Wolfgang Kaleck, a German human rights lawyer who is bringing the case in cooperation with CCR, FIDH and other groups, told the conference in New York that he is often asked, Do you really expect Rumsfeld to be arrested for war crimes? His answer is that he doesn't expect it immediately. "But we make it possible that someday Rumsfeld will be arrested," he says. According to Kaleck, the German government regularly receives calls from potential high-level visitors asking, "Are there any complaints against me?"
much more at:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/brechersmith

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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 07:59 PM
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1. Damn ... this could be good!
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 08:01 PM by BattyDem

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


Edited to add more popcorn: This is DEFINITELY a three-bagger ... at least!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:02 PM
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2. How sweet it is
:thumbsup: :applause:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:07 PM
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3. it is depressing that I don't see how this could be enforced
does it mean that the scumbuckets simply have to avoid traveling into Germany?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:44 PM
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6. They will hide out in Paraguay. nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:08 PM
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4. I just love...
reading stuff like this...the fantasy's it evokes are wonderful.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 08:14 PM
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5. After all these years Kissinger has yet to be cuffed
He's classified a war criminal in many countries- it's still hard for him to travel internationally because of it. I think this may be the best we can hope for in the case of Rummy & Co., but at least it will be out there on some level. Small closure, but better than nothing, I think.

Still- dare to dream....
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:58 AM
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7. K&R n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:59 AM
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8. well it's about damn time SOMEONE called these criminals . . .
to task . . .

for war crimes AND for crimes against humanity . . .

and for violating international law AND United States law . . .

'bout damn time! . . .
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 10:46 PM
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9. Best birthday present I could ever ask for.
Finally. Someone starts something that needs to be done.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 01:47 AM
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10. an action like this was previouslydismissed because it wasn't shown impossible to bring in US
that impossibility would now seem to have been met, so litigation can commence in other countries and the element of showing "exhaustion" of US remedies would be met...
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 02:00 AM
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11. yep, they have made fascism legal
with the vichy dems help or tacit approval.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:07 AM
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13. Excellent! Sounds like they screwed themselves. n/t
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 02:05 AM
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12. why not on November 7th???
that would be awesome
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 04:12 AM
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14. Germany, war crimes? The jokes write themselves.
No impact.
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