About that preacher named Haggard...

[Archae]

AFAIK, so far, it's just he said, he said.

So it is possible Haggard wasn't fooling around with that gay hooker.
I'd like to see more before I jump all over Haggard.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Why would he resign from his church and as head of the evangelical

organization, if it was just rumors?

I'm not saying anything is proved, but...

[Archae]

2. I don't know.

Yet.

[greenbriar]

6. thats what I said

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2555690

[karlrschneider]

3. It seems to me that if the Jones guy was trying to extract money

(as some wingnuts have suggested) he sure as hell wouldn't have gone public. He's obviously either telling the truth or he's batshit nuts. I saw him on KO a few minutes ago, he didn't seem crazy.

[kestrel91316]

4. Funny, I thought I heard several times on DU that there are

audio recordings of some hanky panky.

[karlrschneider]

7. They apparently haven't been released yet but the guy is supposedly

taking a lie detector test tomorrow morning.

[Archae]

10. Polygraphs are NOT "lie detectors."

They are nervousness detectors.

That's why they aren't allowed in criminal trials.

[karlrschneider]

11. Yes, I understand that very well but this isn't about a criminal case.

One's willingness (or refusal) to submit to a polygraph examination is, however, fairly influential
to both the participants and the public. Inadmissibility in court doesn't mean they are without
value. In a way it's a bit like when the judge says "that will be stricken from the record and the
jury will ignore it." They generally don't.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. He resigned so he probably did do it.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

8. Yes, if these guys would all resign after simply being accused, all

we'd have to do is have a few dozen people accuse all the Republican officeholders from Bush on down of having gay affairs with them. Problem solved.

[karlrschneider]

9. His church claims that is 'standard practice' when situations like this arise.

Odd they have plans for it...
:eyes:

[originalpckelly]

13. I want to know how many other men have come forward...

saying they have had sex with the Pastor?
:eyes: :shrug:

[originalpckelly]

12. He resigned, either the prostitute has the goods on him...

(this line has been redacted because it contained a joke which was funny as hell but could be seen as homophobic, if you would like to see the joke please press 1 now)

[opihimoimoi]

16. The Prostitute kept the blue shirt and tel cons/emails were taped

saved...nuff said...Ted is TOAST...

Teddy boy had no choice.....

Sim examples are Jimmy Swaggert...homely woman giving him head

Jim Bakker...1 tryst with Jessica Hahn ruined his empire($65 mil a year)

[AlCzervik]

14. i watched his interview on tv tonight, i'm no expert reading body language

but---when he was saying "I'm steady with my wife" whatthehellever that means he was shaking his head back and forth as if to indicate he was lying.

[originalpckelly]

15. Jim McGreevey's wife never knew...

and he had two children with two different women.

Being gay = not bad, maybe even cool
Cheating on wife = wrong
Using meth during sex = illegal