I'll say this ONCE. It is not about "gay bashing" It's about hypocrisy

[wholetruth00]

and lying! If this story is true about Haggard, he is guilty of both and it is a reflection of the total Bush administration. Hypocrites and liars.

[bobbolink]

1. Ya got that! Here's to bringing the hypocrites down!

:toast:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Everybody knows.

That's why they keep ignoring it, then pretend it's not a valid point once somebody else brings it up.

[Pale Blue Dot]

3. Agreed. BUT...

I also don't think that this helps the general cause of gay rights.

[William769]

6. Delete wrong post.

[DURHAM D]

9. Well - we do. n/t

[mondo joe]

31. Hm, I think it DOES help.

Thanks!

[AZBlue]

4. That excuse is about as old and tired as the "family values" line from the GOP.

:boring:

[William769]

8. Amen Sister!

[frustrated_lefty]

5. Homophobe!!!!!!!! :p

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

7. There's a way to properly discuss the hypocrisy and there's bashing gays in the name of "hypocrisy"

There is a difference and gay people know this. Straight people, too.

Also, just like white people can't tell a black person what they should be offended by, straight people don't get to inform gay people when they're allowed to be offended.

We know homophobia when we see it. Trust me.

[ThomCat]

10. Good! Does that mean we won't hear this tripe again?

It's not just about the hypocracy, otherwise you'd just call him a hypocrit. When all the energy is focused on calling someone gay and rejoicing that he's been brought down because he's gay then the issue is Gayness, not just Hypocricy!

I'm so damned sick of hearing "gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, but it's not about being gay."
:wtf:

[Karenina]

16. Holy shit TC!!! Alles in einem!!!

Tante K. going off on one of her DU pet peeves:

HYPOCRISY
HYPOCRITICAL (HYPOCRITICALLY)
HYPOCRITE

(Please make a note of it... :hug: )

And I disagree. It's not about "gayness" for discerning minds. Google Roy Cohn and get back to me.

[ThomCat]

20. Thank you.

My spelling does need correction at times. :)

But we'll have to agree to disagree on the main issue. Calling someone a hyocrite is one thing, but the joy at someone being gay is another layer on top. And it's not joy because being gay is considered something joyous.

[Karenina]

24. Yeah, I DO get what you're picking up...

:sigh:

[mondo joe]

27. Baloney.

If you had scoop on Bush drinking your subject line wouldn't be "Bush is a hypocrite" -- it would be "Bush boozing".

Be sick of it if you must, but the fact is that the GAY is what shows he's a HYPOCRITE.

[xchrom]

11. yeah well some of the ''it's about the hypocrisy'' crowd --

have a little too much familiarity with the ''n'' word in their vocabulary - but claim not to be racist.

[ThomCat]

12. Amen!

:applause:

[Vorta]

14. Am I missing something?

What does his being gay have to do with you and me? A gay person who makes his living schilling for the enemy deserves to be brought down (with fire and music). Does he not?

I always felt the desire to literally spit on Bob Bauman everytime I saw him in a DC bar or restaurant.

[mike_c]

15. only if you want to be like "the enemy...."

I think his sex life is his own business, even if he's hypocritical about it.

[Vorta]

18. No it isn't.

I think his sex life is his own business, even if he's hypocritical about it.

When a politician, a public figure, or a private citizen is dedicated to discriminating against me for my sexual orientation- then his sex life becomes my business.

[mike_c]

21. he justifies using peoples' sexual orientation against them...

...in the name of religion. You would do it for revenge?

[Jamastiene]

30. What are you?

Gay thread magnet much?

[mondo joe]

28. Really? Can you poiint to a few?

Thanks!

[mike_c]

13. be that as it may, there is way too much joy around here whenever...

...someone falls from grace because they are gay. See if you can find just ONE THREAD whose subject line was "Haggert resigns for hypocrisy" rather than "Haggert resigns over allegations he is gay" or some permutation thereof. Just one. You won't find any, I suspect. The crowing is because he's GAY, or might be GAY, or something like that. At least be honest about it.

[William769]

17. You hit the nail right on the head!

BTW this thread was made about my thread "Subliminal Gay bashing". But some people here are not even caring to be subliminal about it.

[Change has come]

19. My personal favorite

Are all Republicans Gay?

[sendero]

22. Come on..

... you think it would be any different if he were caught with a young female call girl?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

23. Yes.

There would not be straight bashing. Just glee in the hypocrisy of it.

[mike_c]

25. probably not, but that would be equally reprehensible IMO....

It's no one's business who the guy has sex with, frankly. Why are Americans so bloody obsessed with sex and sexual orientation? Nor does it make any real difference that HE is hypocritical about it-- by playing that game we become just like him-- he bashes gays for religion, we bash him for maybe being gay for revenge.

[mondo joe]

29. To the contrary - he's not basheed for being gay.

Not for revenge or anything else.

[sandnsea]

32. Or because he's a pedophile

But for some bizarre reason, people preferred to make the Foley incident about his gayness too.

Some of the same people complaining about the Haggard gay accusations today.

I don't get it.

And I think people are just as joyous when someone is found with their fingers in the cookie jar.

It's not our fault Republicans have demonized gayness for political purposes. That's what these outings are supposed to stop.

[Jamastiene]

26. Only once? You promise?

If only everyone would make that a promise, this place might return to a happier more inclusive place instead of a back alley caged match with 70,000 to 5 odds.

[nytemare]

33. Yeah, and Kerry's comment was directed at Bush, and not the troops.

:hide:

Hypocrisy abounds.