What did Bev Harris do for Christsakes? On edit, I really didn't

[rzemanfl]

know why she is so disliked here.

[pitohui]

1. she stole a lot of money EOM

.

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Read what Kelvin_Mace has to say....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=340188

[GreenTea]

6. Just watch the HBO Documentary and make up your own mind. Robots

follow the bullshit...make up your own mind...She's excellent and the HBO Doc was truly devastating!!!

Just tell me...Who here is perfect?

[greatauntoftriplets]

8. Andy was a good friend of mine....in real life.

He spent his last Christmas with my family.

She totally fucked him.

[GreenTea]

23. Would Andy want this whole incredibly done HBO Doc. ignored

and the true validity of voting corruption just simply not acknowledged because Bev was in it...I think not...I'm sure the exposure of this bullshit would be more important to him...I KNOW it would be for me...this was a truly devastating expose, that many have and are still working for, to get the mainstream public to wake up and see the reality...It's much bigger than any of us....the personalies, in so much as the sick facts of Diebold, takes a backseat to what desperately needs to be accomplished...And I truly, feel for your dear friend, I'm sure with his dedication he would agree...We should all be fighting to keep that spirit alive...not pick away at old doings...it solves nothing.

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. No. But read about what Bev Harris did to two DUers.

You do realize that Bev was long ago tombstoned from this site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=340188

[GreenTea]

31. Yes-But your assuming the documentary was all about her-She obviously fucked

up...and I would have the same feelings I'm sure...But to focus on her when the substance of the documentary itself was so overwhelming and necessary...that it would be dismissed over personalities, that indeed would be the tragedy!

You must see it...if that's possible and then you'll see the importance...No matter your prejudice and the awful things why she makes you hurt...is a fraction of the pain, I believe, that millions are feeling by this non caring fascist illegally in power thugs...And I can never dismiss that.

This Doc shows the injustice, hate, lies and pain of millions...And I'm not demeaning nor dismissing any single person...Simply fact....But, if you must hate...do something positive with it, not tear down what positive has been accomplished. Please.

[kster]

51. Tell it like it is!!

Thank you GreenTea

[blm]

95. NONE of us begrudge that Bev made this film - it's THAT IMPORTANT,

Even don't begrudge that it's done from HER TAKE on the subjective aspects - but let's stick to the facts and not pretend she was above aboard with those who worked with her, with people who were doing everything to HELP HER, or people like Olbermann who WANTED to air what was known MUCH EARLIER. She kept the tape FROM being aired as a news story, and kept it from Kerry.

I wonder WHO was advising her to hold the tape back? It had to be someone BIG who would have something to gain from a PROLONGED storyline that Kerry lost and that Democrats had to move right, because that's all we've been hearing from the Dem powerstructure.

So - who told Bev to not let Kerry or Olbermann have access to what she had?

[EFerrari]

34. False dilemma. We can get the word out any way we can AND

know that Grifter can't be trusted -- not with the media, not with donations, not with the welfare of fellow activists.

You know, when Andy died, that Grifter still was hanging on to his personal property and she still owed him money. What a gal.

[GreenTea]

44. As far as the documentary, it was unbelievable and Andy was exceptionally

well presented and his efforts and sacrifices are documented and will be admired forever.

This documentary however has nothing to do with either Bev or Andy...they are both presented as concerned citizens and to some extent, ground breakers.

The HBO documentary stands on it's own as a record of the easily hackable electronic voting machines.

Dear Andy, I think, would be proud and remind everyone, it's just the beginning and there's so much more work to be done...

And we should take that to heart and proceed to get rid of these manipulated machines!

[EFerrari]

46. This film will be an incredible tool.

The film makers are to be commended.

[autorank]

81. I'll take your review.

I didn't even have time to watch it...but then again, I don't need persuading.

One question, did they say one single thing about election fraud,inlcuding the machine type,
being aimed primarily at minority communities?

[fooj]

82. If you state that the "grifter can't be trusted"...

how can you be so certain that this film will be an incredible tool? For what and for whom is a question that comes to mind...

[SouthernBelle82]

87. So let me get this straight

you can trust someone who scammed you and did some bad things to you so if she can easily do bad things to you who's to say she won't "the message"? I saw a good bit of that documentary and had to turn the channel because it was so boring! Oh my gosh it made me less interested. Some things I could care less about like her and her friend searching through the garbage and watching her on her computer downloading those files. The people who did the documentary could have told it better and had it more around the story instead of "Bev did this" or "Bev found out this" and made it more interesting to watch. I was so bored I turned it off and finished some work for class later today.

[tkmorris]

50. I applaud the airing of this movie

You seem to misunderstand though. This thread isn't about whether anyone likes the movie or not. It is about Bev Harris, and how she burned a lot of good people who busted their ass to get rid of these machines.

[Rhiannon12866]

80. This documentary was dedicated to Andy. Just read Will Pitt's thread.

The fact that Bev Harris was in it is just a part of the story. I'm just happy that this is being aired, a really important truth and the closest to Andy's heart. I think he would be pleased, since this was his cause, and Andy was my friend. :-)

on edit: link to Will Pitt's thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2518615&mesg_id=2518615

[SouthernBelle82]

88. One thing I'm wondering

is why did they choose her? They could have chosen Brad Friedman. He knows this stuff really well and was involved since the beginning. I think he would tell the story a lot better too. Plus he hasn't hurt anybody and hasn't used his position to have power or anything.

[Ecumenist]

24. AMEN, GREATAUNTOFTRIPLETS...

I not only remember that but the fact that she touted that she had all of these photos and other indisputible evidence that she refused to give to the people who could have made a difference in the last two years and then because quite vicious and wicked in reference to that poor man, Andy, whilst he was not only dealing with the mourning of who I believe was his sister and then the subsequent derision of his own what turned out to be terminal pancreatic cancer. She derided him on the freeper site AFTER she'd collected the monies from DU to finance the continuance of her "investigation". If I'm not mistaken, she also screwed him out of money she owed him and fired him as well. The things this dame did to Andy and DU are legendary.

[greatauntoftriplets]

28. Yeah, she was lots of talk...

and very little to show for it.

Andy and other researchers did the vast majority of the footwork. Bev took credit for it. After what she did to Kelvin Mace here, I never trusted her. And yes, she never paid for the health insurance he was supposed to get or the withholding for income tax.

[Wiley50]

38. Hell, She didn't even pay in his SS or workman's comp

He could not even collect unemployment after she fired him.

And I got that straighr from Andy, Eyeball to Eyeball

Fuck the Bitch!

[SoCalDem]

39. I was online the night she posted the stuff she found, and OUR

experts here were the ones who mirrored it all over the world so it would not "disappear" and a LOT of us did the digging for further information..

It was nice to see Andy though..My son was happy to see him too. He had only spoken to Andy on the phone..and will be finally taking the vacation in one of the condos I got in the auction..It was nice seeing Andy when he was still feeling well too. You could see the joy on his face when he was investigating..

[SouthernBelle82]

91. Oh sure

You can usually tell in someone's face and eyes if they really enjoy their work or not. He appeared to be excited in the film.

[troubleinwinter]

35. She TOTALLY fucked him

and a couple of us have the documentary evidence.

[HereSince1628]

11. No doubt the electronic voting issue was a worthy cause

and Harris did pursue it, but hardly alone. And you know, or maybe you don't, that good causes can be used to serve the interests of unworthy people.

[tkmorris]

14. It's a bloody movie

A lot of DU'ers have had far more intimate dealings with Bev than watching a movie.

[Name removed]

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[tkmorris]

47. I sound like Diebold........

Take your ball and go home. Seriously. You don't know what you're talking about.

Do you know about her book? Were you here when she was writing it, and posting here? What is your opinion of her treatment of Andy? What do you think about her qui tam lawsuit? Are you aware of the public statements she made about that lawsuit, before she settled it? Do you know what transpired between her and Randi Rhodes? How about Keith Olberman? Are you aware of her shady tax filings?

I volunteered a lot of time for the Black Box Voting site Bev ran, mostly leading up to the 2004 election. I watched Bev's meltdown in real time. I saw her attempts to explain her actions, both there and here at DU.

You seem to assume that I am not a supporter of the movement to rid ourselves of these machines. On the contrary, I am one of the biggest believers in that issue you will ever meet. The problem for me was never MY support for the issue, but rather Bev's. You see, I became convinced that Bev's main motivation on the issue was not to get rid of the machines, but to make a name for herself, and some money in the process. In this she has succeeded, at the expense of some very good people who really did have better intentions at heart.

If you really need a hero, look to Andy. He was one, to me, and he asked for none of the fame nor fortune that Bev sought.

You watched a movie. There's an awful lot more to Bev's story than that, believe me. Or believe any of the other DU'ers, many of whom are on this very thread, who knew her far better than I did. Or you can completely ignore me. But don't you EVER compare me to those rat bastards at Diebold, ever again.

[Stephanie]

52. well saiid

I was there, I agree, you are correct

~S

[fooj]

84. Me, too.

:smoke:

[troubleinwinter]

57. "Seriously."

Yes. Andy taught so many so much.

Those that expose and tell the truth about Bev for the greedy criminal sociopath she is, are accused of "undermining the movement". I have gotten used to it.

Seems that everybody who questions Bev is accused of being on Diebold's payroll.

[flyarm]

75. Thank you tkmorris so much ! and Andy was a true hero..bev..she is

a fucking whore! she is a fraud!

she is a monster!

so people who want to rehabilitate her..better go to freeperville..not here..we won't buy the bullshit!

fly

[tkmorris]

86. Yes, Andy WAS a hero

I really envied him at the time. He devoted his life to the cause in a way that I wanted to, but could not. I admired his efforts so much.

As far as Bev is concerned, I am just calling it as I see it. See, Bev really made me angry because I am not often fooled by charlatans. I HATED those infernal machines, and the people who were so very busy trying to shove them down our throats. I wanted so much to do something that I hooked up with the biggest outfit going trying to do something about it, namely Bev et al, and didn't examine her too closely.

Later, when she treated Andy so very badly, and absconded with somewhere between 300k and 1 million dollars without offering any explanation, or even a legal tax document, I realized I'd been had. It wasn't just those things, it was a ton of little things. People who had busted their humps for her getting banned from the site the second they asked an uncomfortable question for example. She would throw these awful tantrums on the forum there, then delete it the next day. She would accuse DU'ers I knew well of all manner of underhanded tactics, implying they were Diebold employees or Freepers or what have you. I thought she was losing her mind.

Then I realized she was just a not very good liar, and I was witnessing the flameout that occurs when such a person gets publicly asked hard questions. It was rather odd because we had a 15 year old daughter at that time who was doing a fair amount of lying as well. When her lies became increasingly hard to remember for her, and when she was questioned about those discrepancies, she grew shrill and angry. She'd lash out. She'd accuse us of all sorts of outrageous things. Bev almost mirrored her actions. It was the very same M.O.

Life is almost never fair. Such it is that we are left with Bev while Andy has left us. I don't personally believe in a God, but I do believe Andy did so...... God bless you and keep you Andy. Most of us you left behind can only hope to someday aspire to the heights you reached. But we will try.

Rest easy.

[Richard Steele]

60. At least tk's 'point of view' is factually correct.

You, on the other hand, have ZERO real experience with
the subject at hand, and offer childish insults instead
of actual facts or discussion?

Sounds like Diebold? PFFT!
Your posts display more PROJECTION than a goddamn multiplex.

[troubleinwinter]

62. Aww...

Ya know, anybody who criticizes Bev gets accused of being on Diebold's payroll. She even keeps a special list.

There are so many undercover employees of Diebold on DU that the idea of 'unemployment' is a sham. When IS our payday, anyway?

[Richard Steele]

65. Not only does she keep a "special list"...

She has a very well-documented habit of using sock-puppets
and starstruck zombified MINIONS to attack those who dare
speak the TRUTH about her self-aggrandizing, money-grubbing
nimroddery!

Minions and sock-puppets who, as you say, seem to accuse
truth-speakers of being "Diebold-ish" an awful lot.

I might even go so far as to say that I have NEVER seen
anyone NOT directly connected to her make such an accusation.

KnowhutImean?

[troubleinwinter]

71. Knowhatchamean.

But ya fergot the posting of one's personal info on her site. That's always good for a great laff when ya send a request for a legally required public document.

What I DON'T get is WHY the minions will NEVER answer a direct question!!!???? EVER.

[Richard Steele]

74. Easy: They have no ANSWERS. They have a small number...

...of "buzzwords', "catchphrases", and "rote responses".

But they have ZERO ability to actually process actual QUESTIONS.
Just like members of any small, short-lived "charisma cult".

I've seen Commodore64's with customized OS's that could kick
their asses in a "Turing Test".

[flyarm]

76. because they are ignuts..and some are so weak in integrity..and

moral compass!!

fly

[fooj]

83. I've got a question...

Wasn't the outpouring of donations to BBV worth a mention in the documentary? Remember what she promised to do with that money? That was a big deal yet nothing was reported about it. Hmmmmmmmmm...

[bicentennial_baby]

41. Bwahahahaha!!!

Were you here, when it was happening, live on DU? If your'e talking like that, then I sincerely doubt it....

[babylonsister]

49. That's why he asked. Bev sounded ok on the HBO doc. nt

[SouthernBelle82]

85. So that just makes it okay

for her to steal money and to scam people? I don't think so. That is sometimes called a con artist you know. If she did do all of that like people are saying than why trust anything else she says? If it's so easy to scam people.

[philosophie_en_rose]

3. She attacked a dying man. n/t

[trayfoot]

15. A little help needed,

as I don't get HBO. Could you tell me who this dying man was and what Bev said about him? Thanks.

[troubleinwinter]

37. She has attacked many fine people who have worked their butts off

for the cause. She has lied about and smeared good effective activists and organizations. WHY?

Really...fucking WHY!?

[Hissyspit]

4. All of the above. n/t

[Hissyspit]

7. See this post, too...

... F.Gordon:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2550449&mesg_id=2553678

Bev is an equal opportunity basher
She goes after Democrats in this "documentary" too. I can't believe this got sold to HBO. My Dog is a better investigative journalist than Bev.... everytime I would confront her about the "Dumpster Diving Case" here on DU she'd dodge the questions, distort the facts.... eventually she accused me of being a Democratic "poser".

Bev is shit... and so is HBO for buying this horseshit. I'll file this with The Alley to 7/11.

[troubleinwinter]

61. She bragged a few times

to her pals on Free Republic about how she offered help to the Republican WA candidate Rossi with info.

Apparently never offered any info to the Democratic candidate.

Huh. Non-partisan 501(c)(3).

Maybe she shouldn't keep such a status, considering she told her freeper pals "You'd be surprised who is in our corner", referring to G.W. Bush.

What "corner" is she in? She is not supposed to be offfering assistance to one party or claiming to be in a "corner" with Bush.

Makes me wonder about things.

[SouthernBelle82]

90. Yes that's right

They had some republican woman on there "bashing and investigating" the machine's and said it favored democrats and they were doing it all across the country. :eyes: I would like to see if there is any way to check out the story from that republican woman. Does anybody remember her name?

[Richard Steele]

5. She turned out to be a con artist and thief. She smeared a dying man.

She's utter SCUM, and has left ZERO room to doubt that fact.

[Rick Myers]

9. Wow! It's creepy in here tonight!

Let's just WIN on Tuesday!

[Tellurian]

16. Right On..

At least this Wednesday, we'll know where to look when they steal the next election!

[AlCzervik]

10. everything everyone said on this thread and many of us sent bbv money

in good faith.

[BobRossi]

12. Impartial question...

I don't know the complete story about Bev and Andy, nor do I have the resources to research it.

However, I have one question: would "Hacking Democracy" have reached the air waves without Bev?

[HereSince1628]

18. Well the other shoe in the pair is could Bev have done it alone?

Nope. She couldn't have. Was the Diebold code for Gems absolutely fortuitous and absolutely important? Yes.

Do people in every country using electronic voting need to see this documentary? ABSOLUTELY.

[ChiciB1]

20. My Sentiments Exactly!! I Posted The Same At Another Thread...

she didn't do it alone, but how much did Congress do? How much have we done? She may have taken funds and that is totally wrong and unforgettable, but what you just saw was some "proof" that was easy and simple to follow!

I had my issues too, but far too many people have DENIED this stuff for far too long!!

[sandnsea]

13. What did she do with the tapes

Did she turn them over to any law enforcement? Did anybody get arrested because of them? Did she make them available so we could actually do something with them so we wouldn't have more election fraud?

How much of our money has she taken to do NOTHING but produce a documentary that will be forgotten within a week after this election.

That's what Bev Harris did. Not to mention what she did to Andy.

[Name removed]

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[Zomby Woof]

17. She is a charlatan

Qui Tam, anyone?

[americanstranger]

30. Heh. Indeed.

Does anyone remember how she turned a lot of DUers against BartCop, because he was asking the questions that should have been asked way before anyone else did?

She accused him of getting ready to file a Qui Tam.

Bart was ahead of the curve as usual.

- as

[Wonk]

19. Could you edit your title back to what it was please, for the people who

don't yet know? Then they can see the "What did Bev Harris do that was so wrong?" title and click it and find out too.

"Now I know, thanks, nt" is a really bad title for describing the content of this thread.

[rzemanfl]

21. I will. I really didn't know much except her name was mud here. nt

[Wonk]

26. Thanks for editing it back. K & R for those unfamiliar with her history. nt

[symbolman]

29. The one who needs to be honored here

IS ANDY.

Here's my Memorial to HIM and it's as valid now as it was then:

http://web.takebackthemedia.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20050710095608538

[flyarm]

32. you are so right Symbolman..and thank you for posting this again!!

and a candle is lit tonight for my red headed friend..

I miss him so much!


Rest my friend..and soar with the angels.

fly

[troubleinwinter]

36. Andy was an honest man who dedicated his life to the issue and teaching others.

Bev is a sociopath.

[tkmorris]

48. That was a good one Symbolman

Thanks for reposting it.

[Grateful for Hope]

33. The world is not "black and white"

There are shades of gray. No one is "all bad"or "all good".

I watched the program. I think it was excellent.

[FlaGranny]

40. I remember when

Randi Rhodes announced on the air a fundraiser for some Bev Harris project. Can't remember what it was about now, but lots of listeners sent in lots of money. After that Harris "disappeared" for quite some time and never accounted for the money and ducked speaking with Randi afterwards. Randi was really pissed about that. Harris has a real knack for making enemies and burning bridges.

[helderheid]

42. She saw the evote machines would be news and she exploited it.

At this point I say just exploit it already.

[Pastiche423]

43. Bev (shudder)

Fired Andy on her fucking website! Then she has the gall to tell Randi Rhodes ON AIR that she was unaware of any firing, while it was staring us in the face!

She came onto this site saying she knew how to investigate the Black Boxes. She would throw out a flood of info and asked DUers to do the research for her.

She knew jack squat about computers. She had no idea what the files she "found" were.

She screwed over Duers:

Kelvin Mace (David Allen"
Elorial
DemActivist and more that I can't think of now because of my anger at that bitch.

She accused DUers of filing a qui tam lawsuit, when, in fact, it was her filing the qui tam. This is after she swore publically that she would never do that.

Skinner banned her from this site when she threatened him w/a lawsuit.


If you want more reasons why many of us despise that lying, scamming bitch, then ask. There's lots more.

[alittlelark]

45. I defended her here for 2-3 days during the BEV-WARS

I ended up understanding that it was all about Her. My opinion has not shifted now for almost 2 years.

[kster]

53. I don't dislike Bev

She is doing a FANTASTIC job against the secret vote counting machines, but if I was working for Bev and she was mean to me and/or fired me, and I went my way, and she hers, I would still be proud of Bev with her work on trying to expose the secret vote counting machines.

[troubleinwinter]

54. ~!!!! Damn.

"but if I was working for Bev"

Exactly how WOULD you feel if Bev had failed to deposit YOUR money that she had withheld from your paychecks for OVER A YEAR?!!! Suppose you were terminally ill and NEEDED to access YOUR OWN money but she failed to abide by law and it was unaccessible to you???!

Did you ever ask Bev WHY she did not deposit employees' withholdings for more than a year? Did you?? No, you did not. Want to ask her now? No, you do not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x436340#top

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x437826

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x438498

[tavalon]

55. LOL

That is the most bullshit synopsis of what went on with her and around her. She is an opportunist. I'm grateful that a good documentary came out of it. I guarantee that someone else, not Bev Harris, actually did the leg work to make it a good documentary. She is a dangerous and worthless human being. She shares that with George Bush. Not all of the shit floats to the top of the barrel. She is definitely a bottom feeding piece of shit.

[troubleinwinter]

56. just "fantastic".

The movement will be discredited when it is widely known about Bev's criminality. Illegally soliciting funds for two years. Looking at potential jail time... the whole Board. And the IRS filing is a sham and insultingly incomplete.

Not that you care. Criminal behavior and Bev smearing others is just "FANTASTIC".

"... if I was working for Bev and she was mean to me and/or fired me, and I went my way, and she hers...." I reckon it wouldn't much matter to you that she would schmooze and flirt with and encourage the very Scamdy-types who would torment, smear and harass you in your last days while trying to fight for your life??!

Good to see ya check in though. Or not.

[kster]

58. Hey, You answered me twice,

My number one objective, is to get the Secret vote counting machiNes EXPOSED, so that in the future the RICH kids ain't counting MY KIDS votes IN SECRET, like what is happening to us right now with the governments new and improved secret counting of our votes.

Now if you want to keep up with this silly little debate as to what happened between Bev and Andy, go right ahead, such as life, people argue so what, the point is Andy and Bev BOTH fought for the same cause in which I am fighting for, thats all that matters to me.

The people who stole 2004 WILL BE HEARING FROM US REAL SOON!!

[troubleinwinter]

59. I don't know much about "RICH kids",

but wonder about your opinion on this (if you have one):

"Exactly how WOULD you feel if Bev had failed to deposit YOUR money that she had withheld from your paychecks for OVER A YEAR?!!! Suppose you were terminally ill and NEEDED to access YOUR OWN money but she failed to abide by law and it was unaccessible to you???!"

[kster]

63. Andy fought for my cause, Bev is fighting for my cause..

they are both Champions............... in my eyes.

[fooj]

89. No. Bev is fighting for HER cause.

It's all she knows.

[tkmorris]

69. Andy fought for the cause

Bev fought to have her face on the front of the cause.

There is a huge difference.

[kster]

70. Oh my

where did you come from?

[tkmorris]

72. Originally? Washington DC

What's your point?

Look, Bev totally fried some very good people for no reason other than to glorify herself. Do not expect me to sit silently by while others ask that her praises be sung. It's not going to happen.

[kster]

73. No.......... Andy and Bev, True American Hero's.........nt

[symbolman]

64. Here's a little gem you might want to hear

Randi Rhodes reading Harris the RIOT ACT, remember that Randi shilled for money for Harris, then was PISSED because Harris wasn't anywhere NEAR Ohio, AND she wouldn't SHARE any of the info she claimed to have with OLBERMANN, or anyone else.. WHY?

She was making a movie. Not her, but the movie was about her, and you saw it tonight, now you know why those files and videos weren't turned over to authorities TO SAVE THE ELECTION... SHE left Kerry Flapping in the Breeze, and now complains that HE screwed it up? Maybe if he'd KNOWN...

Stay tuned at the end, where Randi says, "If she's making a MOVIE with that money.." during the musical interlude..

Here's the MP3, lots of goodies there, explains a LOT. Pass it around if you feel the need.

http://www.tbtmradio.com/mp3/bev_randi.mp3

[kster]

66. Randi just got her own ASS handed to her tonight

Thanks Andy, Thanks Bev..........

[symbolman]

77. How's the weather in

BevLand? Smarmy with a possibility of LIEStorms? :)

[Rhiannon12866]

79. That's not what happened, my friend.

Bev Harris screwed Andy over, and he was a friend of mine, and also DU. Randi Rhodes caught her out for her lies, as did DU and Keith Olbermann.

[troubleinwinter]

67. Bev lied to Randi claiming $24k, but we've seen document of 10 times that in a few hours.

A year and five months after the Randi fundraising for Bev's "FOIAs", I had the gall to request the public 990 documents from BBV.org. as provided by law for any member of the public to request of a tax-exempt org. Bev did not like that, so saw fit to publicly expose my personal information (real name and address) on her site. Within hours, I got a number of 'hang-up' calls from kooks. Bev claimed they were "from election reform activists" (WTF??!?!).

I had emailed Bev over a year before, asking about the FOIA results she had promised to post (the results of the $$$ she was soliciting). She sent a long email response about how hard it was to get a scanner, set it up, etc., etc.

Soooo.... more than a year later, after she posted my personal info., I went to her site and asked FIVE times in conversation with her for and accounting of the material she had promised her donors a year and a half before.

Three of 3,000+ counties had been posted nearly a year and a half after the 2004 election. She claimed there had been one more but that it had been lost. That's it. Three. Or four?

I'm quite sure Bev would very much appreciate some more donations.

[kster]

68. Thank you Andy, Thank you Bev

true American hero's..............

[althecat]

78. Valiant Kster.... I am inclined to agree with you...

Bev and Andy have done us proud.... I would love to actually see the movie mind.

But - in case someone mistakes this for more flamebait - I am not going to get involved in the latest version of Bev-Wars. Had more than enough of those around here and they are boring and unproductive.

[BlueIris]

92. Bev Harris is mentally ill.

And that's the bottom line for me. If you don't have your mental health faculties in order, you should not take on the activism, research, and leadership responsibilities she tried to tackle in '04. It's too bad she didn't get therapy when she should have...about thirty or forty years ago. I hope someday she will get the help that she needs, before she does anymore damage to her own life or anyone else's.

[Terri S]

93. wow!

I had no idea just how awful this woman was. I'm new to du forums, but have watched Olbermann for many years, so that's where I got some idea of her, shall I say, lack of character. I agree with something he said, how her association with the absolutely essential inquiry into e-voting fraud hurts the credibility of that inquiry infinitely more than anything she has done to bring it to light.

In the long run, she has not only done inexcusable harm to the people who have worked so hard on this, but also to the fight for restoring the foundation of the whole democratic process that everything we are is built on.

Thanks for the education all!

[DiverDave]

94. Stole the money from a dying man,

then started a rumor at freakrepuklic that he was scamming everyone, that he was fine.

Cold hearted bitch, I wont watch her trash.

Waste of good air, IMO.

[rman]

96. It's interesting that so many people think serious accusations require no evidence

[Moderator]

97. locking

This has become inflammatory.