Why are some at DU advocating NOT reporting to the DNC hotline?

[madfloridian]

I find this very odd. I think it is great to call other hotlines as well, but why would some people at DU absolutely say not to call the DNC Hotline. This is an important step, so the party will have a record.

Their hotline is 1-888-Dem-Vote, and they need to know.

I am concerned at this. The DNC needs to know these things that go wrong as well as other hotlines. How can the party keep accurate records is someone at a Democratic forum is saying not to call them?

Could someone explain that to me?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2553868&mesg_id=2556306

Here is a link to only one of the pages at the DNC about the voter resources.

http://democrats.org/a/national/election_reform/voting_rights/vri/

[madfloridian]

1. This is serious. They want a record of the problems. ?

It makes no sense to advocate not calling the DNC hotline.

1-888-Dem-Vote

[babylonsister]

2. Please start a thread about compiling a bunch of numbers for

every DUer involved in the election to have a recourse to call should they witness something wrong.
Someone NEEDS to.

[madfloridian]

3. I don't know all those. WHY advocate against calling the DNC?

That is a simple question, and it needs an immediate answer.

1-888-Dem-Vote...it should be called.

[babylonsister]

5. I think the more phone numbers that are available, the better. nt

[madfloridian]

6. Why say NOT to call the DNC, I need the question answered.

I think it is great to call all the numbers, but how can the party make informed decisions if a Democratic forum is saying NOT to call them?

This appears to be advocating against the party. The post I referred to I mean, and it worries me.

It costs money and man power to have a hotline like that.

[madfloridian]

21. I posted this to try to get answers.

I have asked some others to share it around.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/539

The DNC has to have the information, keeping it from them will hurt all of us. Call all the numbers, good idea. But don't leave out the DNC.

1-888-Dem-Vote

[bananas]

9. I have three numbers so far

for voteprotect.org nationalcampaignforfairelections.org velvetrevolution.us


for democrats.org

[madfloridian]

11. Thanks for including the DNC hotline link again...but why ....

is someone saying not to call them?

This is the Democratic party hotline. No one seems interested in answering why there would even be a question.

Why don't the other sites mention the DNC at all? PFAW rep was on Rachel Maddow today, mentioned their hotline...but did not mention this one.

It just seems odd, that's all.

[madfloridian]

4. Will someone care enough to help me keep this kicked for an answer?

I am very concerned that some are saying not to call the DNC. That is a dangerous thing to say.

[upi402]

7. this can't be what you're referring to is it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=453668

[madfloridian]

8. No, I posted the link I was referring to. It is wrong to say not to call the DNC

I consider it advocating against the party. How can they do anything if they don't have records.

[upi402]

10. Yep, I was searching and thought

my linked thread was worth looking at.

Maybe the OP of your top link means to say that - if you want inperson support go to 1-866-ourvote. They have lawyers, or at least informed and educated staff, to assist. Some may get discouraged right away if there's not much active help.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=453668

[madfloridian]

12. So you are saying not to call the DNC hotline so they can have records?

Did you read the link I put?

Our votes are at stake. We need everyone we can get, but I will not stand by and see the well-publicized DNC hotline treated as being nothing.

How can they answer questions if no one calls them?

Something is going on, and I am feeling very uncomfortable about it right now. They need to know the problems to be able to answer the media.

[elehhhhna]

25. Call your local DEM HQ FIRST...then follow up EVERYWHERE.

Local HQ can send lawyers on the spot to document the 'problem'.

[madfloridian]

27. See what I mean? Call the DNC Hotline.

Then call everyone else.

That is what the local people should contact also.

I am trying to find out why people are NOT encouraging use of the hotline.

There must be a reason, and I feel it is dangerous not to let them know at that number. I think it probably has state levels as well.

So why disparage it and discourage people from not calling it?

Doesn't make sense.

[elehhhhna]

28. Does the DNC hotine connect to local party offices?

If not you're better calling direct. Than headup call to the dnc. Dpe efforts will probably be necessary as it will be cluster-love on Tuesday, regardless.

[madfloridian]

29. What does that matter? They need to be called. Why do people say not to?

I am surprised that people don't understand that NOT giving the DNC the info, even if you call other numbers...will hurt the party efforts.

OR maybe they do understand that. Sadly.

[elehhhhna]

30. Dunno why freeple would say it. Seems like a good idea to call them.

[madfloridian]

31. Here...they only mention telling the DNC to shape up.. Election forum

they don't mention the DNC hotline, I posted it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x453668#456264

Also from a link I posted from the Washington Monthly:

"The Ohio Democratic Party does have an election protection unit, with a hotline at 1-888-DEM-VOTE so if you're reading this and have run into problems you can drop a line in comments and/or give the hotline a call."

The Purge that Wasn't:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/showdown06/archives/individual/2006_10/009835.php

So people need to know to call the number. In Ohio's case that is their hotline. 1-888-Dem-Vote

In Florida they have it up at the website.

[elehhhhna]

32. SUPER!

[madfloridian]

13. I am adding this to my journal, and getting a friend to post it...

elsewhere. I am very concerned that the DNC won't have the problems reported to them. There seems to be something territorial going on among voting activists, leaving the DNC out of the equation.

I don't like this.

I will also have someone send it to a DNC blogger.

[still_one]

15. Let me preface this by saying I agree with you, the DNC

should be notified if voting irregularities occur

I am not sure WHO is advocating NOT calling them, but the only possible explanation I can think of is cynicism because of the weak effort they exerted in the 2004 election

[madfloridian]

18. This is not your 2004 DNC.

But thanks for agreeing. There is a post in elections forum, and I linked to one in my OP.

This is vital they need the info. It is good to have lots of numbers but they need to coordinate.

[still_one]

19. thanks for the links

[madfloridian]

20. Another DU post on this. Why exclude the DNC hotline?

Makes no sense. More stuff at the bottom of the thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x453668

I think people should call every number they can, but why advocate AGAINST the DNC.

I don't know how it works, but this is a new DNC now....why not give it a chance.

[madfloridian]

24. Oops, here the link I meant to post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x453668

[madfloridian]

14. I have shared this around.

Will check back tomorrow to see if there is an answer.

[New Earth]

16. call both

call ALL! DNC might not do anything about it, but at least they'll have a record. i say report to any numbers available to be on the safe side.

[madfloridian]

17. Yes, call all of them....but the DNC will have to answer for it.

They should all compile their information together. I have had some people post this elsewhere.

Everyone keeps saying the DNC will do nothing. Why are they saying that? We have a new organization now, give it a chance.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. I think it's a complaint...

About how the dems have completely failed to do things about disenfranchised voters for the past two presidential elections.

[madfloridian]

23. Every voting group should also give the DNC Hotline. 1-888-Dem-Vote

No other voting group mentions the DNC Hotline. How can the DNC know about it if people don't report it.

The Ohio official voting hotline is also 1-888-Dem-Vote. So why not give it out.

Agreed the Dems failed in the past. But this is the first election since 2004...and I fear some are trying to undermine the efforts and grab the voting problems just for their group.

That is too territorial, and we are all in this together. Frankly this scares me that the DNC won't hear of the problems.

[bigtree]

26. dunno, it's a good effort which should be supported and expanded

:kick: