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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:27 AM
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Breaking: Overnight Development In Haggard Accusations....Haggard Admits 'to some indiscretions'....
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 01:37 AM by truthpusher
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/4557411.html

Overnight Development In Haggard Accusations

Colorado Springs
11 News

After a day of whirlwind controversy surrounding new life church and its leader Ted Haggard, who went on administrative leave earlier Thursday, the acting Senior Pastor, Ross Parsley tells KKTV 11 News that Pastor Haggard has admitted to some of the indiscretions.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:28 AM
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1. Ok, I have to ask...
is this like being a little pregnant?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:30 AM
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2. Being gay = a-ok, cheating on your wife = wrong, but it happens...
using meth = illegal.

Mr. Haggard could be going to jail.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:33 AM
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4. hale no, he wont go to jail.
I doubt the acuser will provide enough proof to convict.
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agates Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:43 AM
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8. He won't go to jail
He'll go to rehab. Its the Republican Way.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:18 AM
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24. Wrong.
Possession of amphetamines (unless prescribed for something like attention-deficit disorder or narcolepsy) = illegal; the law has no authority to send someone to jail for past USE of amphetamines, though (or of any other drug), unless obtaining said drugs involved forging a prescription (which is a felony). Now if the police get a warrant, search his house, and find a baggie with meth residue, yeah, he could probably get jail time, but not otherwise (which is rather ridiculous anyway; our drug laws are painfully stupid).
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:00 AM
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35. Any practicing the greatest 'puke value of all, hypocrisy: priceless
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:46 AM
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40. You can't arrest someone for past drug use....
Even if it was last week... I don't think even recorded phone calls asking for drugs can lead to arrest.

If there were a misuse of church funds, maybe. but the guy was paid plenty, so he used his own funds...
Nothin the law can or should do about this.

hypocrisy is not illegal.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:33 AM
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3. here's a link:
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 01:36 AM by blitzen
http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/4557411.html


and for a real hoot, check out the comment blog on the story here. Some of these people make Freepers look like real moderates

http://www.gazette.com/#/

here's a brilliant one:

Are not Democrats the scourge of this nation? Would that we could put them all on a ship to Iraq and let Al Queda pick them off one at a time, except that they are the best friends Al Queda has in this country, like one big cell. I'm not just talking about the flaming escort who is trying to sway votes so he can one day marry his perverted buddy (legally). I'm also talking about the great group of losers who will read this yellow journalism and bank their soul on it like the did the Michael Moore movie. Homos and Democrats are in bed with each other. Leave good men like Ted Haggard out of your dirty perverse politics. Who do you want to smear next, Dr. James Dobson? I guess every great country has its cancer. Our cancer is Democrats, gays, and other spineless liberals.
-Mike_D 11/02/06 02:12:27 PM
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:38 AM
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6. Mike_D is just jealous.
I think he wants it in his ***.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:41 AM
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7. ..
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 01:48 AM by Bluebear
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:46 AM
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11. I don't think there's room
his head takes up all the room in his ***.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:13 AM
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13. so true... so true.
seriously, the fundies are afraid especially of male homosexuality because they think it'd be more exciting than their miserable existences.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:45 AM
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9. "Who do you want to smear next, Dr. James Dobson?"
Why, YES, I DO! If he proves to be a big, ol' hypocrite, then I absolutely want him exposed next. Fun!!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:16 AM
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15. Mike_D...
is a major-league nutcase. :crazy:
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:57 AM
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29. Wow - what dirt does Mike_D have on Big Daddy Dobson? Are
we about to find out another "Holier than thou" preacher raising funds by bashing gays has been getting off with the homos?

Wow, I guess this could fall into that Rovian styled meme "Some people are saying....."
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:38 AM
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5. "Not that there's anything wrong with that..."
Unless you're a right wing blow hole of a fundie bible thumpin preacher screaming every Sunday at a mega church full of wide eyed jeezus freaks about how eeevil them homaseckshuls are.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:45 AM
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10. "admitted that some of the allegations are true, but not all of them"
LOL So what's he gonna do? Say, Yeah I was into the meth but not the guy"?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:09 AM
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12. The Evangelical movement killed themselves
Another ding dong the wicked witch is dead moment. Instead of helping the needy, they fell to helping the rich side, and the self indulgence side. Ding dong, the religious right is dead. YES!!!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:19 AM
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17. schadenfreuda
is sooooo sweet!
I love it when the self-righteous, judgmental, hypocrites fall.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:15 AM
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14. In the words of the Simpsons bully - "HA, HA"
n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:18 AM
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16. Now I just want to know the $ W paid for faith based initiatives
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 02:19 AM by Erika
to his close evangelical adviser. That's our tax dollars.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:24 AM
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18. HA-HA!!!! You'll never know
This is the biggest money laundering operation in the history of civilization.


HA-HA!!!!



You'll never know.

:puke:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:41 AM
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19. SECOND biggest, actually.
"WARFARE" still holds the #1 spot by an exponential margin.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 02:42 AM
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20. Yeah, the redistribution of our tax $ to W's theocracy buds
But I'm sure the Tony Snowman will say W never heard of Haggard and there are no records of our tax dollars redistributed to this creep.

W uses and casts aside like he did with Katherine Harris.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:04 AM
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21. These lunatics make good comedy
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 06:05 AM by malaise
<snip>
“It’s fishy,” said the Rev. Steve Holt, senior pastor for 3,500-member Mountain Springs Church. “I think people should take note that this is five days before the election, and that Ted is a proponent of yes on Amendment 43 and no on Referendum I.”

James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, said the media were to blame.

“It is unconscionable that the legitimate news media would report a rumor like this based on nothing but one man’s accusation,” Dobson said.

“Ted Haggard is a friend of mine, and it appears someone is trying to damage his reputation as a way of influencing the outcome of Tuesday’s election — especially the vote on Colorado’s marriage protection amendment — which Ted strongly supports.”

The Rev. Donald Armstrong, rector of Grace Episcopal and St. Stephen’s Church, said he’s known Haggard for more than two decades and knows he’s not gay.
Edit -spacing.
“I’ve known pastor Haggard for a long time,” he said. “That’s the last thing he’d succumb to.”
-------------
The family values myth has been shattered. Adios loonies.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:27 AM
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27. yep
:D


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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:57 AM
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33. LOL...great pic!
Love that pic of Haggard and Gannon!
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:59 AM
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34. Top News on CNN, MSNBC...but Fox is mum
whats new?

:eyes:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:46 AM
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41. Rat, ya did it again....cannot stop laughing.....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:07 AM
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22. Rehab...
THe old rugged crotch zaps another one...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:13 AM
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23. On a hill far away
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 06:16 AM by malaise
Beautifully written:rofl:
This is all CNN is talking about this morning. Imus is having a feast with this as well.

Add.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:35 AM
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28. A little Horn Honking on...
Gabriel's horn a-plenty? The old Haggard Crotch? Why was he callig BUSH once a week?

Sounds like Hag should have gone over and taken a nude shower with daddy Dobson.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:45 AM
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38. Phone SEX once a week?? Is that it??? OMG....I wonder.....??
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:39 AM
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37. Damn, that's priceless
LOL!!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:23 AM
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25. But, Haggard is a Republican
so, he can write these off as "youthful indiscretions" - even if they happened yesterday. Hey, he was younger yesterday than he is today.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:23 AM
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26. ha ha ha ha
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:27 AM
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30. So do we now start suspecting overly touchy feely religious
zealots? Works for me.
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:53 AM
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31. I'm in the Springs
I'm actually anxious to go out today and see what the people are talking about. Believe it or not, there will be a lot of people here chuckling today. There are actually more normal people here than people realize.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 08:56 AM
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32. He regrets shouting Lord's name during a rusty trombone.
Yeah, I'll bet there were a few "indiscretions."

.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:14 AM
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36. I can't stop laughing!
The hypocrisy of these people is too much!:rofl::rofl::rofl: The LIES they tell!:rofl::rofl::rofl: Their arrogance in thinking they'd never be caught!:rofl::rofl::rofl:Then, the sheeple who BELIEVE them!:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:45 AM
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39. off to rehab.
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sqarebis Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:46 AM
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42. "some" of the indiscretions?
my arse - he's just admitted to ALL of them
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:48 AM
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43. There was more??? than one guy??? ALL of them? Priceless
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sqarebis Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:55 AM
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46. Not sure what story you were reading...
"...Ross Parsley, tells KKTV 11 News that Pastor Haggard has admitted to some of the indiscretions claimed by Mike Jones, but not all of them."
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:58 PM
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51. I was speculating there were more than 1 guy...logic tells me there were more
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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:48 AM
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44. My favorite freeperville rebuttal so far
"This is a non-story. There is an election in four days, and HAGGARD IS NOT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES! The real shame of this, is that the liberal media is using this as an excuse to stop talking about John Kerry and his contempt for the troops!"


22 posted on 11/03/2006 6:32:46 AM PST by Justice4Reds


:crazy:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:53 AM
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45. OK then Justice4Reds
You'd better turn off MSM because they're not letting this oen go. Bush and Haggard are friends and so are your guys on the Hill not so far away.:rofl: :popcorn:
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:51 AM
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50. Oh that is priceless!
Uh, psst... Justice4Reds... Kerry is not one of the candidates either. Oh well, no arguing with irrational people.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:57 AM
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47. There must be some hard evidence somewhere
for him to take this action. (No pun intended.)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 10:31 AM
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49. I need a pix of Bush with Haggard
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 09:58 AM
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48. Haggard's teeth look really bad...meth mouth?
I just watched a local PPTV show on Meeth. So gross.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:00 PM
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52. Pastor Ted on ICE??? Its everywhere I tell ya....from the homeless to the highest..
Even Hitler was high on this stuff.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:46 PM
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53. He admitted to buying meth
but he "didn't take any."

We had to put up with the pukes chortling about Bill Clinton claiming he didn't inhale for years, now fundies are channeling Bill ... WTF?!
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