Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Card Blames New York Times For ‘Advertising’ Nuclear Secrets ‘To The World’

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:28 AM
Original message
Card Blames New York Times For ‘Advertising’ Nuclear Secrets ‘To The World’

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/03/card-blames-nyt/

Card Blames New York Times For ‘Advertising’ Nuclear Secrets ‘To The World’

This morning on NBC, former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card excused the Bush administration’s role in posting nuclear weapons secrets on a public web site, and instead blamed the New York Times for having “advertised” the secrets “to the world.”

...

Full transcript:

LAUER: What do you make of this? Who’s gonna get the blame for this?

CARD: Well, you know, this is one of those things that John Negroponte warned us that we don’t know what’s in these documents, so these are being put out at some risk. And that was a warning he put out right when they first released the documents. We pulled them down, and I think the government has acted very quickly, and we’ve pulled them down. I’m a little bit concerned that the New York Times has advertised them to the world, so that more people might see them…

LAUER: What about the timing? Four days before, five days before a mid-term election this report comes out. Do you question the timing of this report?

CARD: Well, I think most things that happen just before an election are designed by someone to have an impact on the election. But I actually think it’s important that we recognize the government is doing the right thing. They shut the website down. They’re not providing information.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:30 AM
Response to Original message
1. *munch munch munch*
As I eat my own face...again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Save some face for about 24 hours from now
when they get it spun down to "Clinton's fault!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
3. No! It was Clinton!!! Clinton!!! Clinton!!! Clint.... (drop)
Card's assessment is like a robber blaming the local newspaper for reporting his latest heist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
4. You mean it's not Clinton's fault?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
5. UN...FUCKING...BELIEVABLE...
I mean I just...WHERE DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS COME FROM?????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LilyLibber Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
24. I'm with you!
I'm stunned at their superhuman ability to hurl the blame at someone else faster than a speeding bullet! :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
6. Card is right, the whistleblower is to blame, not the government that placed nuclear secrets online.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #6
29. But of course!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
7. Like everything else with them
they are more worried about the getting caught part not what they did. How dare anyone tell the truth is the attitude.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. I know! How DARE people call attention to such a huge blunder!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #8
27. There is no fucking oversight with this administration and it's like your 9 year old
telling YOU the way things are going down, the way things are going to happen! Bush, a mindless child trapped in a man's body...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
9. Then Lauer went right John Kerry!!!
You know what the deal was? It was that if Card talked about this issue, Lauer had to bring up John Kerry to keep that story going. That's when my TV was turned off!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
10. I was waiting for that.
They are so predictable.

Always someone else's fault.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. Shameless.
Always, always, always whining that THEY are the victims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #20
30. Welcome to DU Graybeard!
:hi:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:42 AM
Response to Original message
11. Oh I get it ....
if the NYT wouldn't of called them out on this ..... the Bomb plans would still be on-line today, tomorrow, who knows for how long and ...... oh never-mind. :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
12. Rove/Repukes; blame it on the dawg, blame it on who the hell ever is handy
repugs are half way out the door, they can all kiss their asses good-bye while Bush-boy finally gets leashed!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
13. It was them damn Internets tubes!
Getting all coagulated when cogitating!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. LOL !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:50 AM
Response to Original message
15. "...and I think the government has acted very quickly..."
From the NYT:

"Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war."

--snip--

"Last night, the government shut down the Web site after The New York Times asked about complaints from weapons experts and arms-control officials."

--snip--

I guess in Bushworld that constitutes quick action. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Throwing Stones Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. But of course...
the NYT also sent the links to the private email addresses it has for osama and kji BEFORE alerting the government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. They Didn't Need To Do That, Einstein, Since Bush and the Repubs
Edited on Fri Nov-03-06 12:09 PM by Beetwasher
Published it, in Arabic (you know, so it's real easy for them to understand right off the bat), for them online and left it there for months and months and months. Repubs passed a special piece of legislation PRECISELY to do this. The only thing Repubs DIDN'T do (as far as we know) was send Iran, Bin Laden et al. engraved invitations and spam pop up ads about it. Although I hear Freepers had a link for terrorists to go right to the web page from their website. :rofl:

Yeah, sucks to be a Repub these days doesn't it? The cognitive dissonance must make one even stupider than usual.

Of course all of this happened AFTER Cheney sold nuclear reactors to both North Korea AND Iran so they can enrich the uranium to use w/ the plans they published online for easy access.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 11:59 AM
Response to Original message
16. .......
"this is one of those things that John Negroponte warned us that we don’t know what’s in these documents, so these are being put out at some risk." Gee ya think? What a bunch of incompetent bastards these guys are! Reminds me of prior to 911 when we didn't have the arabic speaking translators to interpret the freaking intercepted conversations of suspected terrorists ...... bla bla bla ..... holy shit, these guys couldn't run the local Taco Bell night shift let alone our Government! VOTE THEM OUT NOW! F......K!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. I was thinking the same exact thing. You put this stuff
out on your website and have absolutely no idea what you put out? Scary to think they didn't bother to even have a translator look at this stuff. Maybe they can borrow one from the Times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:01 PM
Response to Original message
17. rofltipmp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sqarebis Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:01 PM
Response to Original message
19. OMFG!
Desperate people acting desperately.

This is extremely pathetic - we look like MORONS in this country with these idiot leaders.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:06 PM
Response to Original message
23. Andy Card, poster boy for the party of personal responsibility
blames the 4th estate for not being NeoCon.
This is simply VILE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
25. And republican nitwits have a new talking point.
Lack of vigilance. Those uninterested in the truth. They will all spout the lie. I can here the guy who delivers my propane.

It's getting harder to tolerate. As things disintegrate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
26. After the NY. Times exposes, --> They shut the website down...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. They shut the website down after the NYT contacted them, before the article was published.
So the info was gone from the site by the time the article was published.

So the NYT didn't "advertise" nuclear "secrets." It exposed that the gov't had made them publicly available for months.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
31. Corrupt AND incompetent.
We can rule out the OR option now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
32. Does it not occur to Card that terrorists peruse the WH site judiciously?
Where else would the terrorists go for information on our government and what it's doing than straight to the source?

Lucky for the terrorists, the Republicans are on their side, because they hit a little-bitty jackpot right on the White House web site.

The bush administration is beyond the pale when it comes to incompetence. This is criminal negligence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
33. Uhhh...you know, I could have sworn that it was the WHITE HOUSE that put that info on the Internet
Yeah.....nice, Card.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:18 PM
Response to Original message
34. What utter gall even for them! They totally disgust me - recommended
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
35. Like I always say, never stand near a conservative when things go wrong
Those pointing fingers can poke your eye out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
36. Well this just takes the cake - it's the NYT's fault.
I think I'm going to go bury my head in a pillow until November 8.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. This info was on the Net for several months.
It is strange that it took the NYT so long to discover this. Doesn't anyone else read the shit that is on that site?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 04:27 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC