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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 05:56 PM
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I would like to say something about embryonic stem cell research
First off I am not a scientist but I have read a lot about cloning because I find it fascinating. And I am not an expert on stem cell research but then again at this point I don't think anyone is. Anyway this is my take on it all. Feel free to correct me if you think I am off.

Embryonic stem cell research is NOT cloning. Cloning is a process where one being is replicated as itself using it's own DNA. It does not use a sperm. DNA from the being is placed in an egg from that being and electrically stimulated to cause it to split and begin the process of growth.(Except in the case of an extinct being like the Woolly Mammoth. In that case if DNA is successfully obtained from its remains it would be implanted into an elephant and the baby would be a hybrid),

Embryonic stem cells are fertilized with an egg and a sperm and grown for a short period of time and then coaxed into different organ cell lines that are then allowed to grow so they can hopefully be inserted into a sick person's organ and multiply as healthy cells. Hopefully the healthy cells take over control. In a spinal cord injury these cells are used because they can reproduce and grow the injured cord so as to hopefully allow it to heal the disconnect.

Adult stem cells can only be used for the organ that they are taken from, embryonic stem cells can grow into any type of organ. Embryonic stem cells don't get old like adult stem cells do or as least as fast.

http://www.biofact.com/cloning/human.html
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:02 PM
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1. and they're only 150 cells
the way the right talks they are fully formed infants. At the point they would be used for stem cells the cells haven't formed into anything specific.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:06 PM
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2. That sounds like the process, but than no one as far as I know has successfully
...done this with stem cells.

I suppose those who oppose the process think that embryos are grown normally to a point where their useful or most valuable organs are harvested for transplants and the rest of the fetus is then destroyed. That is total hogwash of course, but the knuckle-draggers are fed all sorts of lies and distortions by those opposed to this branch of genetic science out of I guess pure ignorance.

There needs to be a fully disclosed explanation on the process, education is the key and that is the responsibility of those who are supporting stem cell research and development. IMHO
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:13 PM
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4. That is an important point. I never even considered that people
would look at it that way.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-03-06 06:07 PM
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3. You're right
The blastocysts we're talking about are a combination of the man and woman's DNA, so aren't clones.

However, a scientist on Franken this week said you could also make a clone blastocyst (somehow, I've forgotten the details.) But no one on God's green Earth is suggesting growing those blastocysts into human beings to harvest their organs. They wouldn't get past the stage of being a few cells.
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