VoteVets.org - General Wesley Clark

[CorpGovActivist]

http://www.votevets.org/

Powerful commercial! Thank you, General Clark!!!

- Dave

[maine_raptor]

1. Just saw it on CNN

Both my wife and I dropped our jaws in amazement.......DAMN GOOD AD.

Thank You, votevets.org :patriot:

[CorpGovActivist]

2. I Wish He Would Run for Governor Somewhere!!!

That would set him up for a run in '12.

; )

- Dave

[maine_raptor]

6. I'd rather see him as VP, SecDef, or SecState first.

Have him get some national experience, then run (with a record) as Prez.

[CorpGovActivist]

10. Veep Works, or SecDef, or State...

... good ideas! Even NSA or one of the key intelligence posts...

- Dave

[FrenchieCat]

18. Clark has a record....led, planned and won the last war we fought...

Leading member of Negotiating team for peace accords in Dayton,

Held together a 19 national coalition while keeping the Pentagon Washington Long knives out of his back.

Planned and pushed for intervention in both Rhwanda ('94) and Darfur ('04 to current)

Wrote and submitted Affirmative Action Brief to Supreme Court in reference to U. of Michigan.

Excutive experience (Not elected office, but similar to what a governor does) 550,000 military families all over Europe, including management of schools, potholes, etc....

Speaks 4 languages, Rhodes Scholar, Masters from Oxford in Economics, Politics and Philosophy. Is currently the most decorated Officer since Einsenhower!

White House Fellows in Budget Office and taught economics and philosophy at West Point and Army College.

Noted best selling Author and Fellows at Burke Center, UCLA.--
Has worked as an Investment banker since 2000.
Emergency Preparedness Expertise: http://www.wittassociates.com/
http://www.lincolntribune.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=754

Raised more than Howard Dean in 1st quarter of 2004 primaries after 4 months in race. Won Oklahoma, placed 2nd in Arizona, New Mexico, North Dakota, placed 3rd in New Hampshire, Virginia and Tennessee - Quit gracefully when writing was on wall.

Married for 40 years.

See for other "actions".....
Taxes- http://www.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2004/02/18/opinion/myers.html


Health Care - http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/01/31/wes_clark_raised_the_bar.php
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/1/30/17455/5250
http://www.muhajabah.com/clarkblog/2006/01/clark_supports_singlepayer_hea.php


War - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/general-wesley-clark-take_b_22672.html

Education -
http://www.house.gov/ed_workforce/hearings/107th/edr/impaid110801/clark.htm
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/clark.interview.pdf


Environment - http://securingamerica.com/taxonomy/term/74
http://www.stopglobalwarming.org/sgw_marcher.asp?2724
http://energybulletin.net/15587.html
http://www.clark04.com/press/release/167/

Science -
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2006/jun/10/566627991.html
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/May05/Commencement/Clark_speech.html
http://www.greenspeed.us/wesley_clark.htm



Affirmative Action & Human Rights- http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-01-05-clark-women_x.htm
http://www.clark04.com/articles/010/
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html3month/2006/060105.Ingrao.Sears.html
http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2005/05-007.html


Mark Kleiman – Good archive of many issues concerning Wes Clark.
http://www.samefacts.com/archives/cat_wesley_clark.html

Endorsement by the Washington Blade (largest Gay Newspaper) - http://www.aegis.com/news/wb/2004/WB040109.html


Endorsement by the Native American Times (largest American Indian Publication) http://www.nativetimes.com/index.asp?action=displayarticle&article_id=3440
http://usliberals.about.com/od/peopleinthenews/p/Wesley...
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040202/lawton


Endorse Wesley Clark by Samantha Powers to Armenian American Community RE-Genocide
http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_releases.php?prid=503


Opinions of Clark
Col. Hackworth’s change of heart on the Perfumed Prince - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34738


Esquire/The General
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2003/030801_mfe_clark_1.html

Waiting for the General -
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/16795


The Unappreciated General/written in 2000 http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A51403-2000May1


Boy from Little Rock chooses military path
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/clark/articles/2003/11/16/boy_from_little_rock_chooses_military_path/

Debating http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/clark/articles/2003/12/10/clark_makes_the_most_of_the_moment/

The Deserter comment from MM and Clark’s bad press on it - http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2004/01/waldman-p-01-26.html

Attacks on Wesley Clark are laughable at best - http://aggressive-voice.com/zz585.html


Clark’s call to Rove debunked - http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016c.html


Clark and Pristina Airfield – WWIII attack
http://antidotal.blogspot.com/2003_09_14_antidotal_archive.html


Saddam’s capture doesn’t sway Clark - http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/clark/articles/2003/12/17/capture_doesnt_sway_clark/

Endorsement by Ambassador at the Arab American Institute -
http://www.aaiusa.org/gabriel.htm


African Americans for Democratic Leadership http://www.democrats.us/editorial/aadl092203.shtml


Muslim Albanian introduction http://www.kiddingonthesquare.com/2004/01/account_from_a_.html


Other newslinks - http://www.texasforclark.com/hot.htm


and just in case,
Listing of Awards including the Medal of Freedom and other foreign awards!
http://wesleyclark.h1.ru/awards.htm

Don't know why he would have to be a politician before becoming a "leader"? Politicians have been losing often enough....and many have proven to be bad leaders! Give me someone with foresight instead of hindsight anytime! :shrug:

[CorpGovActivist]

28. Innoculation...

... I'm well-versed in his record of accomplishment. But there *is* a viable argument to make that:

1. Since his retirement, he could have already served one full term as a Governor, and be toward the end of a second, by '08.

2. Military leaders are too used to being saluted, without the give-and-take involved in governing with a legislative body.

I'm not saying I subscribe to it, but I am saying that you can darn well be prepared to see this basic argument (and variants thereof) in '08, if he runs again. He had - and missed - an opportunity to innoculate himself from those arguments. That will create a little bit of a headwind.

- Dave

[FrenchieCat]

30. We can counter by stating that chickenhawks are too used to

starting wars that they can't finish!

It can also be stated that the last General who was President for two terms, Einsenhower, warned us about the dangers of the MIC....and it will take someone like Wes Clark to run, while putting to rest once and for all, the incredible lie that "Dems are weak on National Security" so that the American people can get to the discussion on what to do FOR The American people.

Name me someone in either party who will be willing, because they will have nothing to prove (Lookee, I'm tough on Defense so vote for me) to look at our Defense Budget and make the cuts that should be made......? Like Clark said, The defense budget needs to be on the table too!

Remarkable how Democrats will support a woman who was married to a President but who herself has no Foreign policy experience but some office sessions; an African-American Freshman Senator with no National Security Experience; A one term former senator who led from the rear on Iraq when he co-sponsored the IWR (the Bush-Lieberman blank check one) and realized his error on life and death issues 3 years later....all during the time that we are at war that civilians started....But somehow a Southern retired oxford educated Rhodes scholar philosophy teaching almost became a phisicist War hero General at this time would be inappropriate. I, for one, disagree with that premise.

Why do the GOP and their corporate media continue to tout folks like McCain, Guiliani and even Rice for their side? Hel-LOoooo? :shrug:

But till after 2006.....I ain't gonna talk about this stuff anymore! promise! :)

[CorpGovActivist]

31. Agreed...Let's Table until Wednesday...

... but I'd love to "battle chess" this out with you, especially if it helps General Clark's folks hone the counterargument!

: )

- Dave

P.S. In my line of work, we do something called a "black hat analysis" (which made Blackhatjack an immediate kindred spirit, since I got the meaning). It essentially entails one person playing devil's advocate for the other side.

[SharonAnn]

7. Yes, "Remember, it's Iraq!" I loved it!!!!

Damn good ad.

[cynatnite]

Good one...

The vets got to me :cry:

[CorpGovActivist]

14. The Bush Admin's Orwellian Program for Vets...

"VA CARES," which stands for

Capital
Asset
Realignment for
Enhanced
Services

Real meaning?

We're going to close VAMCs in Blue States, and open gleaming new ones in Red States, as "payback" - nevermind that amputees and burn victims returning home live in ALL 50 states:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=va+cares+commission

Byrd, Rockefeller, and Rahall swung into action to protect the VAMC where my grandfather - an instructor of pilots in the Army Air Corps during WW II - spent his last years: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=va+cares+byrd+rockefeller+rahall+beckley

- Dave

[maine_raptor]

16. Check out the DAV's scores for Repugs

John McCain = 20%

The DAV represents those wounded in the service of their country. Just about every R in Congress is behind the D.

Check it out and let your fellow Vets know just who their friends REALLY are:


http://capwiz.com/dav/scorecard.xc

[CorpGovActivist]

17. Good to Know!

Thank you for highlighting this rating tool!

- Dave

[cynatnite]

22. Thanks for the link!

Bookmarked. :)

[kerry-is-my-prez]

3. Is that his Organization or did they just get him to appear on the ad?

n/t

[FrenchieCat]

5. Wes Clark is a part of it....

More data here on that! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2924958

[CorpGovActivist]

12. FEC Database Says...

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_detail/C00418897/

Their own website says: http://www.votevets.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=42

- Dave

[FrenchieCat]

21. Site says this....under staff and advisors!

http://www.votevets.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=45
General Wesley K. Clark (US Army, ret), Board of Advisors:
General Clark was born in Illinois and moved Little Rock, Arkansas with his mother after his father died. He graduated as valedictorian of his high school; was first in his class at West Point ('66); and attended Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar. As a company commander in Vietnam he was shot four times and was awarded the Silver Star. He was promoted through the ranks to serve as the the Commanding General for the U.S. Southern Command, then as Director for Strategic Plans for the Joint Chief of Staff. Finally, he was promoted to be the NATO Supreme Allied Commander where he led airstrikes to end the genocide in the Balkans without losing a single soldier in combat. In addition to his Silver Star, General Clark earned the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, the Distinguished Service Medal, and our nation's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Wes Clark wrote two books, Waging Modern Wars and Winning Modern Wars. He has been a commentator for CNN and Fox News Channel and in 2004 he sought the Democratic nomination for President in 2004, winning the Oklahoma primary

[CorpGovActivist]

26. Attaboy! Attagirl!

Better to learn how to fish for yourself, huh?

That's why I provide links to the tools I use.

: )

- Dave

[FrenchieCat]

4. VoteVets is now going Against Melissa Hart,(R) PA-04

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2924578&mesg_id=2924578

and attacking in support of Victoria Wulsin (OH-2)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2924958&mesg_id=2925594

[Liberal Jesus Freak]

8. One of the best ads I've seen. n/t

[Cameron27]

9. Damn good ad

I nearly fell off my chair when I looked up and saw Wes's face, ROFL.

[ThomWV]

11. Is It Really Running On FOX?

Seems unlikely.

[Cameron27]

20. I saw it on CNN

[FrenchieCat]

23. Yes...running on Fox too.

[Nite Owl]

13. The second ad

is running here for Kirsten Gillibrand, it is on quite often and it has changed minds.

[CorpGovActivist]

15. Thanks for the Heads-Up!

I wonder what they'll do against Allen, for Webb?

- Dave

[FrenchieCat]

27. They have been working hard.....VoteVets.org!

Don't know if there is anything else in the works, but.....!

In an ad by Votevets.org, an independent Democratic group, a soldier shoots an AK-47 rifle at two dummies. One is clad in a standard flak jacket, the other in the modern body armor that the ad accuses the GOP Congress of not funding. The dummy in the flak jacket is riddled with bullets; the other is clean.

Another ad by the group, now running in four congressional districts, shows Iraq veteran Tomas Young in a wheelchair at his kitchen table. Young names the Republican incumbent and points out that the lawmaker voted to raise his own pay, but also to cut military health benefits. "That may make sense from where he sits in Congress, but not from where I'm sitting," Young says.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102800779.html
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Jeremy Broussard, a co-founder of VoteVets.Org and law student at Howard University in Washington, D.C., said Thursday that his group chose to make ads against congressmen that were in tight races. That all four current ads are against Republicans, Broussard said, is coincidental.

Broussard pointed out that the educational arm of his group ran ads critical of Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Democrat from Connecticut, and the political action committee also endorsed an Indiana Republican, Sam Schultz, for Congress.

"We can't have politicians in office who are saying one thing about how proud they are of our men and women going off to war, and then voting against veterans," said Broussard.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Oct-27-Fri-2006/news/10466980.html

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Virginia Sen. George Allen, is the target of an ad by a group called VoteVets.org accusing him of voting against the equipment.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15159956/

ad-- http://www.ifilms.tv/votevetsweb/

More on press received and work done.... http://www.votevets.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=62

[CorpGovActivist]

29. Can't Wait to See Allen Bodyslammed on This!!!

He's such a wannabe.

Presidential timber, my ass!

- Dave

[partylessinOhio]

19. Compelling ad!

Neocons don't have anyone to counter this, none are vets!

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

24. Clark is a real mensch

And that is a great ad.

[DemReadingDU]

25. Great ad!

[Donna Zen]

32. Votevets, IAVA, and the September Group

All of these organizations have the support of Wes Clark. The September Group (Ickes, Soros, and labor) put out the wonderful ad with the people asking the bush questions. They will also be doing GOTV. Wes Clark has been working very hard for and with us, although it is under the radar.

[CorpGovActivist]

33. "under the radar"

I like that!

"Private victories precede public victories," after all!

: )

- Dave

[IdesOfOctober]

34. Sound like someone I know...

... that "under the radar" part.

Ides

[Tinksrival]

36. Who??

you?? :think:

[IdesOfOctober]

38. Nope...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/CorpGovActivist

Ides

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. I saw that commercial at least 5 times yesterday on CNN....

IT ROCKS! and so does Wes Clark!:yourock: I'm hoping he runs for prez again! If ANYONE could get us out of Iraq in a timely fashion, it's Wes.

[youthere]

39. There's scuttlebutt he's planning a run in 2008...

GO WES!!!

[CorpGovActivist]

40. I'd Kick the Tires on That Candidacy...

... I personally think Kerry more than earned the right to make a second go at it, but there's nothing wrong with comparison shopping.

- Dave

[photogirl12]

37. Absolutely Awesome!! K&R

[SouthernBelle82]

41. I saw the ending of it last night

I was watching some tv and saw the ad here in Tennessee last night but only the end where it shows General Clark doing his scene.

[Pachamama]

42. Just Donated $25 - great ad - keep it running!!!

:kick: