KO announces -- Military Times to call for Rummy resignation

[HCE SuiGeneris]

Edit :Will post as story unfolds

All 4 services behind Monday announcement calling for Rummy to step down. Wonder if Chimpy will listen to his Generals??

[texasleo]

1. developing hard

[karlrschneider]

9. "developing hard"...is this another Haggard thread?

Never mind.
:evilgrin:

[BlueEyedSon]

42. no that would be hard & fast (meth effects)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

48. Please check out the video links at Post # 40 below.. Chimpy consolidates his statements.. ROFL!!!!

[blm]

2. WOOHOOOO!!!!!

More great news.

[jonnywishbone97]

3. Dont let him resign

Indict the jerk. Only him and his boss could have screwed up this war.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

20. Welcome to DU!

[AlCzervik]

4. to quote Flounder from Animal House---

"Boy is this great!"

[CatWoman]

5. more specifically

the Army, Navy and Air Force Times will run an editorial on Monday calling for Rummy to resign.

[sarge43]

13. Sacre merde!

If true, that means the senior officer corps has turned on him.

[AlamoDemoc]

6. Keep it coming...am not at home tonight....

[Jacobin]

7. them durn librul lefty military guys

pay no attention to them

[kenny blankenship]

8. Isn't he, like, too old now to resign?

Shouldn't he just be put on an iceberg and cast adrift?

[joemurphy]

10. DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD!!!!!!! n/t

[Lil Red]

11. Army, Navy, AF & Marines calling for his resignation; OUCH! (n/t)

[jefferson_dem]

12. Media group to call for Rummy's resignation in their publication on MONDAY!

n/t

:wow:

[tridim]

14. Is this how military coups begin?

A very serious question.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. Believe this limits military and Executive collusion if election is fraudulent

[Lars39]

18. Crossed my mind, too.

Sounds like we're pretty damn close.

[sarge43]

19. Nah. Nobody announces a coup ahead of time.

This is a sitdown strike.

[Lars39]

21. That sounds better.

Military coups usually don't turn out that well.

[sarge43]

24. No they don't

I think this is a simple case of "fuck me?" .. "fuck you!". Can't remember the idiot's name but I'm referring to the one who said Rummy wasn't to blame for the Iraqi FUBAR; it was all the field commanders' fault. I can promise you that got around the Five Sided Circus and out to the Hqs at Warp 10.

They're not about to fall on their swords for him. Smirky and Co forgot one thing about loyalty; it's a two way street, otherwise it's just intimidation. The brass can read the tea leaves as well as the rest of us and they're not intimidated anymore.

[jimshoes]

26. That would have been Bohener

can't remember who he was being interviewed by though.

[sarge43]

31. It was an incredibly stupid thing to say publicly.

Public criticism is a hot button with military types, just not done. It undermines morale by sowing doubt through out the chain. It's one thing to be ripped behind closed doors; that comes with the job. But either fire me or support me.

[badgerpup]

45. I'm not military, and even I know you don't rip up your subs in public!

If you're gonna rip someone a new one, then you do it in private.
Doing it in public makes them lose face, often in front of their subordinates. BAD idea...

Praise in public is good...because then everyone wants a share.

Way to "Support the Troops", Rumdum...Better go out and buy another yellow magnet. They're starting to doubt you. :sarcasm:

[sarge43]

46. Yup. Personnel Management 101 n/t

[Straight Shooter]

38. Leslie Blitzer did the interview. Didn't blink an eye. n/t

[Quiet_Dem_Mom]

15. Rummy will have to tell those silly war critics to "just back off!" again! eom

[TheDonkey]

16. October surprise!?! (nt)

[brook]

22. This is interesting...

D'ya think this helped decide it was time to do the editorial?
Army Times survey on Rummsey.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

23. Very nice find Brook

Seems the survey was designed to focus exclusively on Rummy. This had to have taken some time to develop, approve and implement this survey. Say g'bye Rummy to your post.. say hello to Mr. Prosecutor

[brook]

25. Thanks.

I was just curious to see what might have prompted Monday's editorial and at best, thought I might have found a few letters of disenchantment. The survey tells me it's been boiling up for a bit.

The bit on TV was preceded with something like "the men can't speak up so we'll do it for them".

[Terri S]

27. love it!

First the Appeals for Redress, now this!

[Telly Savalas]

28. Don't blame Rumsfeld.

He's just implementing Bush's and Cheney's policy.

If anybody should be resigning it's those two assholes.

[sarge43]

32. Gotta start somewhere

Anyway if Rummy wasn't fully supportive of Bush and Cheney, he should have resigned.

[Telly Savalas]

50. Rumsfeld should go too.

But he's being used as an easy scapegoat by people who lack the courage to indict the president. (Think Lieberman and his ilk.)

[sarge43]

51. No argument. Rummy's just one head of that hydra and not.

the worst one. That dishonor goes to Cheney; Bush is a sock puppet. That's why I've always believed impeachment and conviction would change nothing as long as Cheney is in place.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

29. Now that this is leaked, I wonder how much pressure Bushco is applying

to these papers to make them change their mind.

[Quixote1818]

30. Rummy's failed! nt

[itsmesgd]

33. I can't believe the nerve of those...

wait, did you say the entire military. hmm I guess they know what they are talking about.

way to go brothers

[AnnInLa]

34. KO said it would be in the editorial

Anyone know who is responsible for the editorials in the Military Times? What if all the service's generals come forward and deny that they want Rummy to resign? I mean, is it just the magazine, or is on behalf of those services? It has to be JUST a magazine writing that in an editorial....WHO exactly is responsible for this magazine (or newspaper or whatever?)

I am so confused. Someone enlighten me. This cannot be that the different services are calling for Rummy's ouster, so it must be the magazine's editorial writers, who are.......???

[itsmesgd]

35. nothing gets written in the "times" without prior approval

The "times" is a covert way for the officers to float ideas without having to sign their names. they may claim that they do not approve, but it is a long known fact that nothing gets in without oversight and approval.

[AntiFascist]

37. Very cool....

we definitely need to continue to support the military as the top leadership is shown to be totally inept.

[sarge43]

39. And not just the officers

I'm sure all the branch Chiefs have the editorial staff's number on speed dial, too.

[sarge43]

43. They're newspapers published by the Gannett Publishing Group

They're not gov't owned or funded. There's a paper for each branch. 99% of the time the papers figures articles about who's who, policy changes, new equipment, etc. Essentially, it's the branch career force talking to itself. Generally, they stay away from politics because that is mine field, but once in awhile the lifers have it up to here with the politicians and you get a nuke like the forthcoming editorials. That all four are in on it is thermo nuke.

[Imagevision]

36. Air Force, Army, Navy Marines, this is some serious news!! (tomorrow)

[HCE SuiGeneris]

40. How many Generals have now called for Rummy to retire??? oops.. resign.. silly me

Minimum of three...anyone know the the total number? And now we have the servicemen and servicewomen themselves behind them. http://armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/022406_commandclimate_survey.pdf
This link is courtesy of "brook" in a previous post to mine and produces the survey backing the media's call for resignation.

And for the most fun you can have on one thread -- watch Chimpy in the hilarious hung-over tirade..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3763213178752600288&q=bush-+i+listen+to+the+generals&hl=en

And for the final nail in the coffin... at 6:04 into this Daily Show vid, Chimpy crucifies himself yet again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDvDHrdn_cM

:popcorn: :beer:

[symbolman]

41. Interesting for Bush

If he DOESN'T Fire Rummy then he's NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS, eh?

If he DOES then he's a 'CUT AND RUN' kind of guy, unable to lead.

GOOD.

[yojon]

44. Chucklenuts firing Rummy is like Charlie McCarthy

firing Edgar Bergen. Aint gonna happen.

[sarge43]

47. Unless Dick the Stick says it's a good idea.

He's the puppetmaster in that roadshow.

[Wednesdays]

49. It's mutiny!

* is starting to look more like this every day:



:popcorn:

[jazzjunkysue]

52. Holy Crap! This is better than Fitzmas! How to lose the vet vote.

So many disillusioned repubs are gonna sit this one out, we're taking back our country.

I wonder who's left to vote for the bastads?

No more xtians.
No more veterans.
No more gay-haters.
He never had any stem-cell protectors, to begin with.

Even the Intelligent design people have given up.
No more social security bandits.
Everything's been quiet from Korea and Iran.

Who's gonna vote for the Grand Old Perverts?

[Generic Brad]

53. I think all they have left is Diebold and Sequoia

The level of outrage has escalated to the point where that is no longer a viable option either.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

54. gratuitous post to futher my own thread...

and share the kicks I get out of these vids... checkout Chimp in action (I hear voices)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3763213178752600288&q=bush-+i+listen+to+the+generals&hl=en


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDvDHrdn_cM

[upi402]

55. "I'm the decider" and "I hear the voices" again!

unreal. Salvidor Dali slipped acid into our national consciousness.