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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:25 AM
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Bush* Administration Seeks Silence on Secret CIA Prisons.
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 10:27 AM by spanone
Torture is now one of our most sensitive security secrets. Detainees couldn't even tell their own lawyers about it.

~~snip~~The Bush administration has told a federal judge that terrorism suspects held in secret CIA prisons should not be allowed to reveal details of the "alternative interrogation methods" that their captors used to get them to talk.

The government says in new court filings that those interrogation methods are now among the nation's most sensitive national security secrets and that their release -- even to the detainees' own attorneys -- "could reasonably be expected to cause extremely grave damage." Terrorists could use the information to train in counter-interrogation techniques and foil government efforts to elicit information about their methods and plots, according to government documents submitted to U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton on Oct. 26.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/03/AR2006110301793_pf.html
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:28 AM
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1. These 'techniques' are not one of the NATION'S most senstitive
national security issues, they are testimony about a crime against humanity by this administration.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:30 AM
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2. Torture: don't ask, don't tell.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:32 AM
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3. What fucking crap! The only way to enforce this would be to
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 10:35 AM by rzemanfl
shoot these people after they were tortured. I am surprised BushCo just didn't kill them when they were "trying to escape." What are they going to do, wire these people for sound for the rest of their lives? What a bunch of asshat fascist clowns. These shits went to law school? Where, Oral Roberts?
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:34 AM
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4. What do YOU think goes on at these secret CIA prisons?
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 10:35 AM by niallmac
What do YOU think all that black smoke is about coming out of the
chimneys next door at Bergen-Belsen? I for one am not going
to think about it so I don't have to feel like I'm a part of something evil.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:36 AM
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5. Unfortunately as Americans, we are all part of it.
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dubykc Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:34 AM
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8. If we don't think about it and try to act against it, ...
We are a bigger part of it through our complacency and apathy. We must fight for the rights of those unable to do so for themselves.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 02:44 PM
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10. I know. Is Amnesty International fighting this? n/t
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:39 AM
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6. Secrecy - torture? Then we know what our job is - if
everyone tries to get into WJ - one might succeed. Think of every call-in show you can think of and do it - before Tuesday - REMIND OURSELVES and OTHErS.

If you have another purpose - add this one.

Accelerate the International Trials against PNAC and Britain as represented by Blair. And name everyone of the known and suspected participating countries -inclucing Egypt and Poland? Is Ireland even knowingly guilty?

Every Moslem should know that Egypt helped the U.S.

Every European should know that some of them helped the U.S.

Helped the U.S. and Britain.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 10:45 AM
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7. There are three versions of data mining.
Edited on Sat Nov-04-06 11:02 AM by higher class
1. One is electronic and coding and striking deals with our data suppliers and transmitters.
2. Another is stealing computers and discs.
3 The third is capturing people the same way natives of Africa were swept up for labor - Moslems are swept up to mine them for intelligence purposes and to get strong men off the streets (the opposite of labor - let them weaken in a cage and through a little pulling off of nails and strapping to boards.

The white man rides again. The superior thinking white man becomes the master once again.

It's the personfication of - move along here. No lessons learned. No conscience evolvution of good. Stuck in the hell of disrespect for God's children.

P.S. Think of all the alliterations, if that is the right word between slave labor and slave withering. Nails, wood, water, chains, bars. Loss of privacy and dignity for years on end (or a lifetime). Guilty until proven innocent except there are no courts.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 11:35 AM
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9. And if you tell anyone we tortured you your dead.(nt)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:24 PM
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11. kick
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 11:39 PM
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12. Continuing their abuse of the state secrets privilege
BushCo join a long list of famous defenders of democracy -- like Russia and China.
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