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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:08 PM
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BUSH DEMANDS DETAINEES BE SILENCED- BIG TIME SQUIRMING AT THE WHITE HOUSE
U.S. seeks silence on secret CIA prisons
Court is asked to bar detainees from talking about interrogations
By Carol D. Leonnig and Eric Rich
Updated: 7:23 a.m. CT Nov 4, 2006

The Bush administration has told a federal judge that terrorism suspects held in secret CIA prisons should not be allowed to reveal details of the "alternative interrogation methods" (aka TORTURE!!!) that their captors used to get them to talk.

The government says in new court filings that those interrogation methods are now among the nation's most sensitive national security secrets and that their release -- even to the detainees' own attorneys -- "could reasonably be expected to cause extremely grave damage." Terrorists could use the information to train in counter-interrogation techniques and foil government efforts to elicit information about their methods and plots, according to government documents submitted to U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton on Oct. 26.

The battle over legal rights for terrorism suspects detained for years in CIA prisons centers on Majid Khan, a 26-year-old former Catonsville resident who was one of 14 high-value detainees transferred in September from the "black" sites to the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. A lawyer with the Center for Constitutional Rights, which represents many detainees at Guantanamo, is seeking emergency access to him.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15539945/
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:11 PM
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1. THE CRAWFORD TRIALS
................... waiting for the Crawford Trials


The world chose to try the Nazi war criminals in Nuremburg as a symbolic gesture. which had been the location for the big Nazi soirees/pageants.

Crawford Texas seems the perfect locale for Bush's war crimes trials.

THE CRAWFORD TRIALS
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:16 PM
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5. it does have a historical timbre...the crawford trials
...which ended in bloody sunday, when cheney, rumsfeld, rice, wolfowitz, negroponte, and many other political appointees in the defense and state departments were found guilty of treason. The executions began earnestly at dusk. A bloody sunset ushered in a bloody bonfire illuminated night of somber reflection and quiet realization that the ugliest chapter in modern American history had nearly ended.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:11 PM
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2. High ranking traitors to the constitution could face war crimes trials..
They should be worried!

Nancy is coming to get you, mutherfuckers!

BOO!

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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:12 PM
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3. "BUSH ORDERS DESTRUCTION OF ENTIRE PLANET"
Coming soon to a headline near you.

Just when I think they couldn't possibly get any more brazen...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:13 PM
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4. I think the detainees have OTHER secrets to tell...
Like maybe how much rogue CIA and mercenaries work to AID al Qaeda...just for starters.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:18 PM
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6. So when are the war crimes trials scheduled? Seriously. These fuckers need to go to jail
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:22 PM
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8. War Criminals, Beware
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061120/brechersmith

On November 14 a group of lawyers and other experts will come before the German federal prosecutor and ask him to open a criminal investigation targeting Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales and other key Bush Administration figures for war crimes. The recent passage of the Military Commissions Act provides a central argument for the legal action, under the doctrine of universal jurisdiction: It demonstrates the intent of the Bush Administration to immunize itself legally from prosecution in the United States, even for the most serious crimes.

The Rumsfeld action was announced at a conference in New York City in late October titled "Is Universal Jurisdiction an Effective Tool?" The doctrine allows domestic courts to prosecute international crimes regardless of where the crime was committed, the nationality of the perpetrator or the nationality of the victim. It is reserved for only the most heinous offenses: genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, including torture. A number of countries around the world have enacted universal jurisdiction statutes; even the United States allows it for certain terrorist offenses and torture.

Many of the participants in the New York conference were human rights lawyers who have been expanding the use of universal jurisdiction since it was employed against former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. In a recent case brought in Spain, for example, Argentine Adolfo Scilingo was tried and found guilty of crimes against humanity he committed in Argentina and sentenced to serve a 640-year prison term . The decision was made to try to prosecute Rumsfeld in Germany because its laws facilitate the use of universal jurisdiction.


The conference was sponsored by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), which is bringing the case against Rumsfeld, and by the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), a network of 141 national human rights organizations founded in 1922.

An earlier case against Rumsfeld was brought two years ago in Germany by CCR on behalf of four Iraqi victims of Abu Ghraib, drawing largely on documents and photos that revealed abuse at the prison. As the case was being considered, a security conference loomed in Munich. Rumsfeld, who could have been served papers or even arrested, refused to attend unless the case was dismissed. It was dismissed February 10; Rumsfeld flew to Germany the next day.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:21 PM
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7. you bet he thinks its sensitive. he committed war crimes against them.
of course he wants to shut them up.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:35 PM
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9. Has anybody heard from the Army Times editors?

Not jumping to any conclusions, but "silencing" is a technique in all oppressive regimes.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-04-06 03:36 PM
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10. The Genie is out of the bottle and Bu$h is trying to stuff him back in.
These guys are so totally fucked and they know it! Their little world has turned to shit lately and the really big stuff looms large. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in the White House as these criminal fuckers spin their wheels as the hourglass on their Faustian deals runs out. Who in the fuck did they think they would fool? How in the fuck did they think that they could get away with it? I predict at least one high-level suicide within a year. These fuckers are in serious, serious trouble.

:popcorn:

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